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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:19 AM
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BREAKING NEWS: Obama will take the oath of office using the same Bible...
The transition announces: On January 20th, President-elect Barack Obama will take the oath of office using the same Bible upon which President Lincoln was sworn in at his first inauguration. The Bible is currently part of the collections of the Library of Congress.

"Though there is no constitutional requirement for the use of a Bible during the swearing-in, presidents have traditionally used Bibles for the ceremony, choosing a volume with personal or historical significance. President-elect Obama will be the first President sworn in using the Lincoln Bible since its initial use in 1861."

http://www.politico.com/politico44/
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:20 AM
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1. Good choice
Life is a series of choices, some good and some bad.

this was a good choice.
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:37 PM
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47. here are some pics....
The Bible upon which President Abraham Lincoln was sworn in for his first inauguration is displayed at the Library of Congress in Washington December 23, 2008. On January 20, 2009, President-elect Obama will take the oath of office using the same Bible Lincoln used.
REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque




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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:42 AM
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2. I don't see what is wrong with using a certified copy of the Constitution.
That has more relevance than using a religious book to swear in the head of state of a country that supposedly has a separation of religion and state in its highest law.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:44 AM
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3. Good point...the Constitution is more important than...
a stack of bibles.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:43 AM
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14. I was hoping for that, too.
Although, I think for him isn't about the Bible as much as it is about Lincoln.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:12 AM
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39. Bingo! The symbolism here is of great importance. I think Obama understands public relations.
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 10:14 AM by IsItJustMe
I know a staunch Republican who told me that Obama reminded her of Lincoln. I thought to myself, "Well, that can't be all that bad."
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:54 AM
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34. He is smart enough not to give ammunition to his critics that he is not a Christian
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:47 AM
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4. We would be well off if he turns out to be half as good as Lincoln.
I like that he is aiming as high as possible, it's totally in his character. I'm very eager to see how he directs his cabinet.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:52 AM
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22. Abe's foot prints were all over the Constitution of the United States.
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PerpetuallyDazed Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:55 AM
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45. Do you think Obama would do the same?
To circumvent the anti-gay marriage legislation? :shrug:
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:06 PM
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50. I do not think he would'
But than again had Lincoln not been faced with Civil War, I suspect he would have been a pretty strict follower of Constitutional government.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:01 AM
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25. ...as long as he's also less than half as supportive of discrimination.
I see a lot of reason for hope.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:02 AM
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5. They really should use the Constitution...nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:06 AM
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6. They should use whatever they wish
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:24 AM
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9. For real. I've never seen so many malcontents.
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 07:25 AM by jefferson_dem
Our newly elected Democratic president decides to get sworn into office using Lincoln's Bible.

How does DU respond? He should have chosen this...he should have chosen that.

Ugh... Lighten up people... Seriously.
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:43 AM
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15. Isn't it amazing? Some people are never happy!
Life must be a real drag for them!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:50 AM
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20. Questioning Obama, even on a MB, means you;re unhappy now? Huh.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:16 AM
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40. You must have forgotten that you have entered into an alternate universe.
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 10:17 AM by IsItJustMe
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:47 AM
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18. Between this and Warren, Log Cabin Republicans may be quite amused.
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 08:48 AM by No Elephants
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 08:46 PM
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53. They should use what they are in office to uphold and it is not the bible..nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:45 AM
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16. I think Franklin Pierce did and Obama should. After all, in his flow chart, it was the
Constitution that was above all three branches of government, not the Bible.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:09 AM
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38. Maybe he should just recite the oath
Why substitute a secular doc for a religious doc in what is, at its core, a religiously inspired ceremony?
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:17 AM
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7. 5th K & R
Very fitting and good to know!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:24 AM
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8. I got an email that said it's going to be a Koran.
:sarcasm:

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:36 AM
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10. The same Koran Lincoln used.
(they were bost sleeper Mooslims ya know)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:11 AM
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12. But I thought Abraham was before the start of Christianity or Muslim
And the founding fathers were all disciples of Jesus. /satire
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:52 AM
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21. Never been to Freeper in my life, but I would spend all of Inauguration Day there if
Obama takes the oath on a Koran and laugh myself silly.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:54 AM
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33. What do you wanna bet
that a whole passel of Freepers start a rumor saying that the bible wasn't really the bible at all, but a cleverly disguised Koran.

It's so easy to do, after all, with a brown paper grocery bag...

voila...a book cover that would fool anybody.




:7
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:42 AM
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11. What page do they open it to?
Or is it closed? I think it's open though.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:56 AM
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23. I think Reagan had it opened to a specific verse...
.... but I dont recall what it was.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:34 AM
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29. Actually It appears using verses isn't that common
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:13 PM
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46. Carter and Clinton chose nice verses
Carter:
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

Clinton '92:
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Clinton '96:
And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

* had his bible closed when he took the oath both times. Maybe that says something.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:32 AM
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13. wow. I cant believe no one has used it before now.
Thats some pretty incredible symbolism. Nice choice.
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:57 AM
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24. Yes, good choice.
I read that Obama's entire inauguration is to have an Abraham Lincoln theme, so the choice of a Lincoln bible isn't a surprise. It seems Obama has some affinity with Lincoln, coming from the same state and for other reasons as well.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:14 AM
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28. Well...
I'm sure the fact that Lincoln freed the slaves has quite a large part to do with it. :) Jan 20 cant come soon enough for me.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:41 AM
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31. Seeing as how Lincoln's presidency ended...
I can.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:51 AM
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32. ugh. Good point. I hadn't thought of that. nt
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:45 AM
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17. i wonder which bible gwb used
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:48 AM
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19. Image if he had use a Jefferson Bible
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:10 AM
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26. I like that better. If he has to use a bible, use that one and get rid of the fantasy.
n/t
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:14 AM
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27. Good Pick
I think I mentioned that a while back as a good pick but who knows.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:37 AM
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30. Funny, I've read that in private Lincoln admitted that he was a non-beleiver. n/t
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:06 AM
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36. Well, here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln_and_religion

Hard to tell if he was or was not, competing views on the subject.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:09 AM
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37. Thanks.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:59 AM
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35. Whatever makes him happy. He should choose whatever he wants.
I like the idea of Lincoln's bible. I would be afraid to touch it though, what if I disintegrated it with just one touch?
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:25 AM
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41. What?? No Koran?? The GOP assured us it would be a Koran if he were elected...
did Obama double cross them?
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:43 AM
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42. After he is done, he can hand it to Rick to beat the uppity gays into submission.
I am sure old Ab (who may have been gay by some accounts) would love that!
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:55 AM
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43. Why is Lincoln's bible palling around with terrorists?
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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:09 AM
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44. Awesome choice!
And it's very interesting that this will be the first time it's used since Lincoln himself. Learn something new every day! :)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:52 PM
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48. I didn't know Lincoln was sworn in on the Koran.
:rofl:
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:55 PM
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49. He really needs to get himself a huge stack of bibles ...
maybe back up a truck load to be sworn in on just to make a point to all the dumb ass rednecks that said he was a Muslim.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:20 PM
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51. I love it!
Thanks for posting.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:22 PM
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52. WTF now he endorses slavery!
What a dick!


:sarcasm:
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