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Mon Sep-13-04 06:31 PM
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Poll question: Does Peter Jennings owe General Wes Clark an apology? |
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Concerning Jennings uncalled for Clark questioning Dubya's military record?
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Mon Sep-13-04 06:32 PM
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Mon Sep-13-04 06:36 PM
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4. A lot of people owe Wes Clark an apology |
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about a lot of things he has said that are now turning out to be true. But specifically, during one of the debates Peter Jennings got all snarky about the fact that Clark refused to distance himself from Michael Moore's statement that Bush was AWOL. Moore had endorsed Clark, and Clark took a lot of heat for sticking up for Moore and not disavowing his accusation about Shrubby's military service (or lack thereof). So now it looks like Moore was right all along. Jennings was totally a d*ck for the way he treated Clark.
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Mon Sep-13-04 11:50 PM
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28. Amen....and even though Clark is Edwards waterboy.... |
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Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 11:51 PM by familydoctor
I still think he is THE MAN FOR THE JOB.
P.S. I voted yes.
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Tue Sep-14-04 12:26 AM
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32. Family doctor, what do you mean |
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when you say Clark is Edwards waterboy?
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Tue Sep-14-04 12:34 AM
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33. Edwards is in the big game, catching touchdowns....Clark is on... |
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the sidelines, filling the gatorade cooler.
It's a metaphor.
Clark is support.
I resent it but I can live with it.
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Tue Sep-14-04 12:42 AM
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35. OK, that is what I thought... |
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In my opinion, following your analogy, Edwards should have never been given a uniform.
If we win the game, the coach made the right call.
If we lose, maybe we should get a new team.
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Tue Sep-14-04 12:53 AM
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36. Yeah, I agree...to the victor go the spoils.. |
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Mon Sep-13-04 06:37 PM
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Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 06:39 PM by senseandsensibility
because Michael Moore, who was supporting Clark, called * AWOL. He made a big grandstanding deal about it when he moderated the debates and called on Clark to refute it. HE DIDN"T HAVE A CLUE! Seriously,he knew nothing about the AWOL charges. He acted like it was all made up and slanderous. What a well informed newsman (not!)
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Mon Sep-13-04 06:33 PM
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Mon Sep-13-04 06:35 PM
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3. I couldn't vote, there was no HELL YES! choice. |
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Just kiddin I voted yes. ;)
While we are at it, throw in Tom Brokaw and the rest of the media whores like Russert, Fox Blitzer, Judy Woof Woof...and etc., etc.
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Mon Sep-13-04 06:44 PM
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8. Whore Blister not only owes Clark an apology |
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Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 06:49 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
but he owes the world an apology, for being the biggest warmonger of the Iraq war of anyone in the media or government. The scab has the blood of thousands on his hands. Whore Blister should be counted among the Neocons, whenever we bring up their names, like Cheney, Donald Rumpsmell, et al.
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Mon Sep-13-04 08:13 PM
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21. Apparently Wolf IS one of the Neocons |
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It's been mentioned in a few threads recently that he used to work for the Conrad Black/Richard Perle/Hollinger "Jerusalem Post" which is basically the Likud Party's version of the Moonie Times.
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Mon Sep-13-04 06:40 PM
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But I still wouldn't start watching his news program.
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Mon Sep-13-04 06:42 PM
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7. He most certainly does.... |
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I used to think that Peter Jennings was one of the more fair mainstream journalists until I heard that hatchet job on the General during the debates...
...I miss Wes....I would LOVE to see them try to do to his four stars what they have done to Kerry's equally valiant service...
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Mon Sep-13-04 06:47 PM
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9. Well, Michael Moore was the one |
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calling George Bush a "deserter" and unfortunately he did this at a Clark event. Since Clark didn't distance himself far enough from the comments, the media went with it and ran.
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Mon Sep-13-04 08:36 PM
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24. I was at that event. We were all cheering Moore. |
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Jennings really pissed me off at that debate too. I can still remember Moore saying that Clark was a gift to the Democratic party and he hoped they would recognize that. Unfortunately, the party didn't.
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Mon Sep-13-04 07:04 PM
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10. Jennings with Clark had alot to do with Jenning's ex wife |
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Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 07:28 PM by AmerDem
Ok, it been awhile and I really didn't pay alot of attenton to this. It had something to do with Jenning's ex wife left him for someone on Clark's staff or close friend ...something like that. Ask a past Clark supporter here i'm sure they remember all the details.
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Mon Sep-13-04 07:15 PM
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13. Peter Jenning's ex wife... |
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is now Holbrooke's current wife.
And who payed for this--Wes Clark?
and who keeps saying HE is going to be the SOS.......Holbrooke?
Well, I don't expect for Kerry to get this right either. I am sure that Holbrooke will be the SOS.
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Mon Sep-13-04 07:15 PM
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15. Richard Holbrooke is married to Peter Jennings ex wife. |
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Clark and Holbrooke are good friends and Peter knew that. Bastard.
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Mon Sep-13-04 07:27 PM
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That's what it was. Apparently the split was bitter and Jenning's took it bad. It's pretty well known Clark and Holbrooke are great friends. They were pert of a convoy that was hit and Clark descended down a mountain to try and save lives. Holbrooke tried to talk him out of it and stayed behind. Clark went anyway while under fire only to find the people dead.
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Mon Sep-13-04 08:28 PM
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22. Exactly. AND while he was down there, he had the forethought to |
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take a soldier's wedding ring off of his finger to give to the man's wife. <sigh> What a wonderful human being.
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Mon Sep-13-04 07:06 PM
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11. I'd say he owes Michael Moore the apology. |
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Clark deflected the question well enough, from what I recall, but it was Moore who Petey was accusing of lying about the Idiot's desertion.
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Mon Sep-13-04 07:12 PM
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those media mafia assh*les that smeared and ignored him during the primary (CNN calling Oklahoma a tie until 2 weeks later) and
all of the Democratic party leaders who questioned Clark's party affiliation to further themselves......
and Those who allowed some piss ass General (Shelton) to make derogatory comments against Clark's character without backing it up (do you hear me VP Candidate?)in order to further their own political quest....
and Terri McAwful for only talking about Kerry having medals on his chest when Clark had 10 times as many.....
and All those Democrats that were saying that John Kerry had enough Foreign Policy/National Security experience and didn't need Wes Clark to shore him up.......2 heroes was one too many (Ha!)
and all those Media whores that kept up the meme that Clark was a "bad" campaigner....such horseshit...
In General.....the America lost out cause when you give a Democrat a knife....he obviously cuts his own neck!
Yea....I am pissed. This is the most important election in my lifetime...and I don't like the way things are looking. The saddest part about it is....I ain't surprised. Now, that's sad.
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Mon Sep-13-04 11:55 PM
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29. Ah Frenchie.....you alway warm my soul.... |
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Tue Sep-14-04 12:24 AM
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31. Frenchie, you go girl!!! |
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Unbelievably, there are STILL people here at DU bashing Clark.
Peter Jennings is just 1 of those people on my list of lying liars.
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Mon Sep-13-04 07:15 PM
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14. Everyone E-mail Jennings and tell him to apologise!!! |
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Mon Sep-13-04 07:21 PM
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16. He most certainly does. |
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I'll never forget that night. After the debate where Clark was treated like shit by Jennings, MSNBC had a Kerry campaign worker on Hardball who just happened to mention the Stevens Group bullshit that had been posted here on DU....thread after thread after thread. :grr: It was a BAD night.
Yes, Jennings owes Wes an apology.....and so do a LOT of other people.
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Mon Sep-13-04 07:25 PM
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17. OK....I've calmed down a bit.... |
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But I will say this: Karma is a bitch!
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Mon Sep-13-04 07:45 PM
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19. In this specific case, he really does owe Clark an apology |
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Jennings acted like the accusations against Bush were wild eyed over the top smears that had to be repudiated by any reputable political leader. Clark pointed out that the Boston Globe had found questions worthy of investigation regarding Bush's Guard service, and that it was the job of the Press to look into the accusations, not his (Clark's). Clark said Moore was expressing his opinion and had every right to do so. Jennings and the Fox chorus acted like Clark was defending the KKK's right to proclaim White's as the Master Race, by not repudiating Michael Moore and his views. There was nothing subtle about it, and it happened the week before NH's primary as part of the Debate ambush of Clark that Fox choreographed.
Wes Clark was absolutely right and Peter Jennings, who had NOT looked into Moore's allegations, was absolutely wrong. He attacked Clark based on a preconceived notion (that Bush was being smeared) which Jennings had not bothered to investigate himself. Essentially all the other Democrats ran for cover but Clark stood firm, and stood tall. It led to 5 days of media bashing of Clark running up to the NH vote. Clark took a big hit for the Party, and for Moore's right of expression. But then again, that is exactly what Clark did for Moore during the Iraq invasion, which is what won Moore's admiration for Clark in the first place.
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Mon Sep-13-04 08:08 PM
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That's *exactly* the message that should be sent to Mr. Jennings. He really disgraced himself over this.
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Mon Sep-13-04 10:53 PM
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Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 10:55 PM by Donna Zen
While they used up air time either speculating about Clark's affront, or how he needed to call the demons on Moore, they never once...not once...had Moore on TV to ask him about it. Now why is that?
Jennings knew the story, and possibly/probably knew it was true.
That was only the first question of the night for Clark. Of the four other questions they asked him, two were "are you a Democrat" something that one of the other candidates had focused grouped as the most effective slam against Clark. (we need not discuss which candidate that was...)
I don't think that the Holbrooke-Jennings feud had much to do with this event. Elizabeth Drew reported that Rove really WAS concerned about the Clark candidacy.
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Mon Sep-13-04 08:37 PM
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25. jennings is a 10 million/year whore |
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that's $28000 a day.... he's one self satisfied pig
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Mon Sep-13-04 11:47 PM
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27. Jennings did us a favor--I've forgiven him |
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Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 11:53 PM by rocknation
He got his just desserts when his attempt to embarass Clark backfired. The important thing to remember is that if Jennings hadn't brought up the issue, it would have taken that much longer to get the story into the mainstream!
:headbang: rocknation
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Tue Sep-14-04 12:23 AM
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But also for only fielding THREE questions for him!!! That was just plain unfair dammit!!!
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