i saw text of the flyer. its zzZZzz

[meow mix]

same old things that have already spread here on DU 100 times.
its a clearinghouse of all the smears...

its called Clark:REAL DEMOCRAT?

a day before we see this interesting article.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0106dean-interview06.html

Dean called 'real Democrat'

In a telephone conference call that reporters were invited by mistake to hook into, Dean's campaign staff spoke candidly about strategy surrounding the impending Bradley endorsement.

"Tomorrow, (Tuesday) we're going to start by having Bradley do sort of a subtle thing, if we can, by saying that Dean is a real Democrat, and then follow that up the next day with an in-state person that's probably a little more direct," one unidentified staffer said.

[kerrygoddess]

1. Here's a better view of the article you are quoting

In a telephone conference call that reporters were invited by mistake to hook into, Dean's campaign staff spoke candidly about strategy surrounding the impending Bradley endorsement.

"Tomorrow, (Tuesday) we're going to start by having Bradley do sort of a subtle thing, if we can, by saying that Dean is a real Democrat, and then follow that up the next day with an in-state person that's probably a little more direct," one unidentified staffer said.

The "in-state" appeared to be a reference to New Hampshire, where Bradley, Al Gore's opponent for the 2000 Democratic presidential nomination, was to appear this morning at a previously unscheduled breakfast.

Another staffer indicated that in a survey of voters Monday by telephone, people expressed concern that "this guy (Dean) is indecisive" and Bradley, a former Hall of Fame player in the National Basketball Association and a three-term senator from New Jersey, could help counter that.

"The Bradley message could be, like, (Dean) knew where he stood on the war, is still a Democrat, takes . . . positions, blah, blah, blah," the staffer said.

The next day, the speaker said, "surrogates" for Dean, both local and national, could "then hit Clark on the flip side of the argument: that he's indecisive, didn't know what party he's with, doesn't know his position on the war," she said.

The strategists ended their conversation when another reporter joined the conference, telling him, "I think you may have the wrong call-in number. This isn't a press call."

http://www.azcentral.com/php-bin/clicktrack/print.php?referer=http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0106dean-interview06.html

[FrenchieCat]

2. seems....

so Desperate! But I understand why!

OBJECTS ARE CLOSER THAN THEY APPEAR!

[moz4prez]

3. LOL! is that scene set in New Hampshire?

Sure looks like it.

[eileen from OH]

4. Wow! And this kind of strategizing

never goes on in other campaigns?

Just cuz the Dean people were dumb (and yes, I said "dumb") enough to get caught, you think this kind of talk doesn't go on in other campaigns? This is politics.

And I don't just mean Dean and Claark, I mean ALL of 'em.

eileen from OH

[diamondsoul]

7. Uh, no, not all of them. n/t

[snyttri]

5. Dean seems to be encoraging his support to go Nader again

"If I don't win the nomination, where do you think those million and a half people, half a million on the Internet, where do you think they're going to go?" he said during a meeting with reporters. "I don't know where they're going to go. They're certainly not going to vote for a conventional Washington politician." - Dean

http://tinyurl.com/3xsls

--after making similar remarks to the LA Weekly this summer

He has some "real Democrat" answering to do himself

[eileen from OH]

6. Ah, GEEZ.

Did you watch the debate where he pledged his support for the Dem nominee, pledged to do whatever it took to get his supporters involved, and asked for a show of hands for who would join him?

No, he shouldn't have said this because it gave the wrong impression.

Yes, his subsequent action in the debate was to correct this impression.

No, evidently that's not good enough for some people. If he corrects and/or explains it, it is then, of course, a GAFFE. If he doesn't correct it then it becomes the Dean Sound Byte Of The Week and gets run on CNN ad nauseum and becomes fuel for those who seek to bash/educate/elucidate/motivate.

Yes, every utterance out of his mouth, even if he's musing, or thinking out loud (which, btw, candidates are NOT allowed to do) is subject to parsing and micro-parsing and re-parsing. Just as things he did and/or said 15 years ago are now fair-game for anyone that wants to do a google search, despite the fact they were given in a different situation, in a different time, in a different context, while he was in a different job.

Man, I have GOT to stay away from GD 2004 primary.

eileen from OH