Kay Bailey Hutchison is highly impressive on MTP...

[Wetzelbill]

:eyes:

Ok, honestly, she's useless. Watching Jim Demint on This Week and Hutchison on Meet The Press makes me wonder if Republicans even live on the same planet as the rest of us.

Is that all Republicans got? Do they really think that piling failure upon failure will change something? In the face of a serious financial crisis this is what we get from the GOP, the same destructive radical ideology. Ridiculous. The Democrats do not have a viable opposition party to deal with, instead they have a radical regional party that is more uncompromisingly ideological than policy oriented. You cannot effectively work with that type of group and expect good policy solutions to come out of it.

[uponit7771]

1. Kerry smacked her talking point with the "last 8 years" retort in which she had no answer, she ...

...doesn't sound like a hack but she'll go the way of the rest of the reThugs and cave to Limbaugh.

[blm]

5. she tried to play it like GOPs were only concerned with working class and their jobs, and acted

as if the GOPs did a GREAT JOB on the economy AND the INFRASTRUCTURE the last 8 years. She sounded insane - calmly insane, but, still insane.

[janx]

2. I guess I'll break down and turn it on...n/t

[grannie4peace]

10. made me want to do that , too

[liberal N proud]

3. All they want is tax cuts

I don't know if they are that stupid and don't get the last 8 years proved tax cuts are a failure and reaganomics are dead. Or are they just out to destroy the country further.

[JDPriestly]

14. For the edification of lurking Republicans and Libertarians,

tax cuts won't work now because the current recession/depression is caused by the fact that ordinary Americans, poor Americans and the increasing number of unemployed Americans have lost buying power.

Tax cuts stimulate the flow of money to those with income, and they stimulate more money the more income a person has. Tax cuts, therefore, stimulate investment.

Sounds good, but ss we saw in the final years of the Bush tax cuts, when investors have a lot of money to invest, but consumers have little money to buy, investors resort to speculation and gambling in order to convince themselves they are making money.

Thus, thanks to the Bush tax cuts and the overabundance of investment money that they put into the economy, we saw the price of gas rise astronomically in recent years. It wasn't so much that there was an actual shortage in supply of the crude oil although that may have contributed somewhat, it was mostly because the investor class had a surplus of cash and nothing better to do with it than to play crude oil poker. Same with mortgages, same with commodities, and finally derivatives -- gambling masquerading as "investment."

That is why increasing the supply of money to investors will not stimulate economic growth at this point. The only way to stimulate the economy now is to get money into the hands of consumers -- of working people -- of ordinary Americans -- of the poor. Americans are not lazy. Americans want to work.

And there is a lot of work to be done in our country right now.

My grandmother used to say: if you can't find something, clean house. America needs to clean house. We need to give people jobs cleaning their communities and improving the infrastructure, education, healthcare and other basic things in their communities.

Once demand returns, once the Christmas shopping statistics look a little better, then tax cuts for everyone may be in order. But right now, no. The government needs to get people working and give them paychecks. Tax cuts didn't work in the past few years, and they won't work now.

[Grateful for Hope]

21. What an excellent post

I hope it is not too late, but, if not, I think that your post should be able to be rec'd.

Thank you.

[firedupdem]

24. Great post...thanks for that! n/t

[chelsea0011]

4. MSM allows the republicans to get away with all their failed policies

without ever going on the attack against the. One has to laugh at the Republicans this week talking like all the Dems do is tax and spend (their mantra forever) and MSM bites. It doesn't matter that it is Democrats who balance the federal budgets. MSM is contenet to allow them a platform without challenge. But let Obama wear a shirt at his desk or Biden come up with a poor joke against the Cheif Justice or Obama make an off the cut remark about snow days and it is all hands on deck with the media to get the story out. It is why I have all but stopped watching cable and network news after the election. It is the will and when Obama will fail show.

[Frustratedlady]

6. You scared me. KBH could never be impressive, let alone highly. Sorry.

I am thoroughly disgusted with how the Republicans have dug in their heels. Rush is the only Repig willing to tell the truth. He wants Obama to fail, and so do the others. Shame on them.

They should be laughed at and spend the rest of their terms in Obama's dust.

Onward and upward, Obama!

[Claire Beth]

7. The GOP is not on the same planet....

they live on the planet of DELUSIONAL FREE MARKET CAPITALISM (AKA as ME, Me, Me) AND fuck everyone else.

[meli224]

9. it's pathetic that no one talks about this more.

they just keep talking about how Democrats want to give money for contraceptive, etc. Which I think was wrong to put in there anyway, but why is there no outrage over the fact that the Repugs don't give a fuck about "social issues" which then means they don't care about people. Period!

[karynnj]

8. She actually was pretty smooth and had her talking points

Kerry routinely makes any Republican look weak when they are paired with him on these shows - that happened even when he and Lindsey Graham were on FOX together - even with Wallace helping Kerry killed him.

What I saw as interesting was that KBH did speak for infrastructure spending.

[MarjorieG]

11. Maybe the new infrastructure goal allows them to say yes. Been a week of this new love.

[CTyankee]

18. Methinks they are hearing from some of the folks in their states.

Of course, she didn't define what she meant by "infrastructure." Do you know what it means in their terms?

[karynnj]

23. No idea - especially when she seemed to think that much Iraq spending was for that

[K Gardner]

12. She was so outbrained by Kerry it was almost sad. They got nothin. They really don't. n/t

[high density]

13. Jim Demint sounded like a moron

I can't believe these guys can say this stuff with a straight face. "Liberals don't care about tax cuts because they don't pay taxes. Yuk yuk yuk." :eyes:

[Paladin]

15. Who Knew KBH Would Ever Seem Like A Statesman And Intellectual?

Compared to the other Texas senator, John Cornyn, KBH looks like a cross between Churchill and Einstein. Of course, so does a potted plant......

[Flying Dream Blues]

25. Isn't it the truth? And apparently Texas can only have cheerleaders

for governors...that'll be three in a row.
*, Guv Goodhair and now KBH.

[ObamaKerryDem]

16. I'm glad you were being sarcastic with the title of your thread, lol..

Because Kerry totally won that debate. :D But I definitely agree with the serious part of your post. It's like these people (the Republicans) are walking around in their own kind of counter reality to ours. Especially when she tried to claim or at least imply that the past 8 years had somehow been PRODUCTIVE for the economy. It's like :wtf: (As usual), Senator Kerry nailed it and I especially like how he pointed out that we just had an election and the greater majority of the people wanted (and still want) change. To which, she actually tried to argue with. It's like they don't want to acknowledge the effects of the election (Wasn't it Dubya who said 'elections have consequences'..and he said this after only eeking out a lousy 2 or 3 point 'win', nowhere NEAR the 'political capital' President Obama earned OVERWHELMINGLY through this election; funny how the Repubs got behind that without a second thought then, yet want to be in denial now.. :eyes:)I also like how he pointed out that President Obama is trying to be as bipartisan as possible on this all important matter and at least hear out the other side, while Bush never met with the Dem caucus even ONCE, in eight whole years. It was an excellent point and to one she couldn't seem to come up with an argument to, LOL.

I just love the team of people we have in charge now (of which Kerry is part of, through the Senate of course), people that actually know what in the hell they are doing for once...

[Wetzelbill]

17. I have been thinking along the lines of what Frank Rich wrote about

today. You remember after 9/11 that it was Bush's way or none at all? You're either with us or against us. Republicans made it sound like if you had a viable disagreement with the president that it was downright treasonous. Well we are in a financial crisis that is every bit as dangerous as 9/11 right now. (I would say more dangerous in many ways) So what do Republicans do? Nothing. Not of any merit anyway. They don't like the stimulus plan, but they have nothing really to offer as an alternative. Even after President Obama worked with them on it. If Dems, after 9/11, obstructed Bush the way they are doing with Obama, Republicans would have went nuts. The Republican Party doesn't have much to offer, and they spend most of the time acting like children. These people still say things like "Democrat Party" and not just the fringe guys either, but mainstream figures, people who are in leadership positions. Bush, the POTUS, used that perjorative constantly, for example. Jim Demint on MTP today made a tasteless joke about Daschle and Geithner having tax issues, something about how Liberals don't mind raising taxes because they don't pay them anyway. Oh hahaha, so funny.

You know what I find funny? The party of supposed grownups and realists act like children and live in a fantasy world, and, in the end, they are so devoid of valid policy and governing ideas that they are becoming little more than a regional party after they spend decades screwing everything up.

[YvonneCa]

20. So do I. It's a great...

...team of knowledgeable people.

P.S. I like your new name. :7

[PfcHammer]

19. Serio? She's a former newsreader and cheerleader.

[cooolandrew]

22. It's a fair point but it's the overall impression that moderates will see Barack did try his best>

with them. This will serve him well in the end. To choose to be as uncomprimising as them is no victory at all. It just might be unwise to choose to become what we dislike.

[zulchzulu]

26. Kay couldn't wait to squash the Stimulus Bill so she could pad the Bankers

It was apparent where her interests were, no pun intended. Fuck the people. Give the banks more feed.