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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:18 PM
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Lynch to appoint Republican if Gregg is appointed Secretary of Commerce

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/02/lynch_will_appoint_republican.php



Lynch Will Appoint Republican If Obama Nominates Gregg




Gov. John Lynch (D-NH) indicated today he'll appoint a Republican to replace Sen. Judd Gregg if Obama nominates the New Hampshire senator to be Secretary of Commerce. In a statement, Lynch said that Gregg made it clear that he would not resign the seat if it would tip the balance in the Senate, and that Lynch believes that the president ought to have the advisers he wants.

"I have had conversations with Senator Gregg, the White House and U.S. Senate leadership. Senator Gregg has said he would not resign his seat in the U.S. Senate if it changed the balance in the Senate. Based on my discussions, it is clear the White House and Senate leadership understand this as well," Lynch said.

"If President Obama does nominate Senator Gregg to serve as Commerce Secretary, I will name a replacement who will put the people of New Hampshire first and represent New Hampshire effectively in the U.S. Senate," he said. Full statement after the jump

Here's the full Lynch statement:


"We are in the midst of a national economic crisis, and it calls for cooperation on all of our parts. We all need to work together to do what is in the best interest of our country and our state.

"I have had conversations with Senator Gregg, the White House and U.S. Senate leadership. Senator Gregg has said he would not resign his seat in the U.S. Senate if it changed the balance in the Senate. Based on my discussions, it is clear the White House and Senate leadership understand this as well.



Three points of observation;

1) People who thought that Gregg would resign without some kind of gentleman's agreement in place were being unrealistic.

2) There really is no ironclad '60 seat' majority to break a filibuster. Any issue that has the support of the House, the President and every single Democratic Senator is almost certainly going to attract one moderate Republican. More likely is that in most legislation there will, because of regional and other factors be a few Democratic and a few Republican Senators voting outside of their caucus.

3) If Lynch appoints a 'place holder Republican it will still assist our Senate campaign in 2010. It is much easier to run against another office seeker than the incumbent. Moreover it is an increasing sign that incumbent Republican Senators are not interested in sticking around for the decade plus time that is likely to get back into the majority. Republican Senators are more likely than Democratic Senators to have personal fortunes and other business interests to pursue rather than hanging around in the minority. If the Democrats achieve a 60 seat caucus in 2010 it will significantly increase the incentive for Republican Senators who don't really like living in DC to retire early.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:20 PM
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1. The bipartisan pony officially jumps the shark if Obama
nominates Gregg now.

Nancy, Hillary, and Rahm will need to hold an intervention.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:50 PM
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13. Uh huh.
:eyes:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:11 PM
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20. Gregg is simply an AWFUL choice.
There is no possible justification for naming an anti-union, anti-progressive tool like Gregg to Commerce.


None.

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brianna69 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:21 PM
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2. If that is the case then hopefully Gregg
is not named as Commerce secretary. The last thing we want or need is another republican in the senate. A democrat should be named. Repugs cannot be trusted. I've had enough of republicans and their b.s to last a lifetime.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:30 PM
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7. a 'place holder Repubplican' would be a better Senate opponent in 2010 than
an incumbent.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:22 PM
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3. Can you see a Republican gov doing the same?
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 03:22 PM by liberalmuse
I think not. :mad:
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brianna69 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:23 PM
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5. Exactly
Bipartisianship apparenty means democrats play nice and bend over backwards and repugs obstruct and destroy as per usual. If a democrat isn't named then they should forget Gregg.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:28 PM
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6. In a small state like NH or Rhode Island where personal relationships

matter more than political ones I can.


My point is however that from a strictly strategic point of view it is better that a 'place holder' Republican runs for Senate than an incumbent who has all of the advantages.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:22 PM
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4. Of course he will! Fuckstick LOVES repubs.
Thats why he rides around on the McCain drooly bus instead of acting like a DEMOCRAT. I've had it with him. This is the last straw for me. He'll never get my vote again.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:33 PM
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9. That sounded quite histrionic
What the hell is wrong with folks on this board.

If this man had not made that arrangement before taking the Commerce Secy. post I would think he's pretty stupid. If he is that stupid I don't want him in that position.

You guys can only think of Dems vs Repubs. You forget the blue dog democrats who vote with the Repubs more than they do with the Dems. As the OP said we would not have had a strong 60 vote majority even if we had Judd's seat.

I can't believe how much you all over react.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:37 PM
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10. None of that has anything to do with my Governor.
Or his republican behavior. Silly me for having a breaking point with this man. :eyes:
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:44 PM
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11. But Gregg would have been a fool if he hadn't included that stipulation
I don't care how the Gov acts. If he came from a pretty liberal Govs. state I could see this arrangement being made. I'm in Ohio and wouldn't be surprised if my Gov. agreed to those terms.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:54 PM
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14. Ummm.
I am specifically talking about my Governor. Maybe YOU dont care how he acts... but I do. I couldnt care less about Gregg - he wont get reelected anyway. And now maybe Lynch wont either.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:08 PM
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19. ummm, I understand what you're saying
I know you are talking about your Gov.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:45 PM
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12. all correct plus taking out an incumbent and putting in a weaker opponent
increases our chances of getting that seat in 2010.

Moreover its a wider sign that Republican Senators are highly demoralized and don't expect to get close to a majority anytime soon. The likelihood is that other Republicans will retire earlier rather than waiting around a long time to take the majority.

In the wider sense this is Bush's real legacy. Completely demoralizing Republican office holders especially in the Senate. Once their Democratic replacements are elected, especially if they are younger, it could take decades to undue.

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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:55 PM
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15. Gregg has zero chance of being reelected.
To take him out of the running is a stupid, stupid move.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:33 PM
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8. Well I doubt he gets it now. Good thing this came out now
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:56 PM
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16. Dems + the moderate Repubs (all 3 of them) have a clear majority in the Senate
This is a bit of a surprise, but not a major one.
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:04 PM
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17. I wouldn't mind having a liberal Republican beholden to Obama
I was reading something on FDL about a candidate for Gregg's seat, and she is a liberal Republican that is pro-choice and a member of NARAL. She would be more than willing to give up her seat in 2 years, and she would just about have to whatever Obama needs her to do as he is the only reason she has that seat.

And then in 2010, it will be that much easier to win the seat running against another candidate instead of an incumbent. This was already looking like a potential Democratic gain, and now it's even more likely.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:06 PM
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18. The OP has read this situation surgically.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 04:10 PM by saltpoint
Gregg was "well positioned to win" re-election in New Hampshire, as this analysis suggests:

http://www.observer.com/2009/politics/obama-picks-gregg-another-republican-bastion-crumbles

--while a "place-holder" Republican ensures an open-seat contest in an increasingly Democratic NH electorate

-- and the more intimate, up-close personal relationships in New England are as much social imperatives as they are political expediencies.


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