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Wed Sep-15-04 12:42 PM
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Did Rove plant the CBS TANG documents? Did he do the same to Hatfield |
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author of Fortunate Son, the book which broke the story of Bush's cocaine conviction back in 2000? FORTUNATE FELONIES When the media stumbled upon a story regarding George W. Bush's 1972 cocaine possession arrest, Rove had to find a way to kill the story. He did so by destroying the messenger.
Pop culture biographer J.H. Hatfield was on hand, traveling in and out of Texas at the time, interviewing Rove and other Bush aides to research the premier Bush biography "Lone Star Rising." The book that was later titled Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the Making of an American President, a more critical title that reflects its turbulent publishing history. One of Hatfield's acquaintances and primary sources was longtime Bush friend and schoolmate, Clay Johnson, a longtime Dallas businessman. When Hatfield was convicted of a felony in the late 80's, it’s likely Johnson learned of it. When Hatfield approached them to research Bush, the Bush campaign already had the upper hand by knowing Hatfield’s felony record: a perfect way to discredit all stories of Bush's drug past. In October 1999, St. Martin's published Fortunate Son amidst a lot of buzz and hope of positive attention from major media. However, St. Martin's was hit with a one-two punch. First, the New York Times refused to give the book the coverage St. Martin’s was counting on. So, St. Martin's dragged Hatfield into a meeting and leaned on him to reveal the confidential Bush campaign sources that told him the cocaine story. Fearing retribution, and honoring his journalistic code, Hatfield refused. Then, St. Martin's learned that the Dallas Morning News was about to break news about Hatfield's felony record. The Bush Campaign began to publicly make legal threats against the book, and the media uproar about Hatfield's felony record killed the book, and the cocaine story.Before he died, Hatfield revealed that his source for the cocaine story was none other than Karl Rove himself: <snip> "The Eufaula Connection? That was Karl Rove. The other top Bush advisor was Clay Johnson. The Bush confidante, was his minister, Mayfield. Now you know. Remember, you’ve got to swear now...."http://sanderhicks.com/bushbrain.html
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Wed Sep-15-04 12:49 PM
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1. Send this story to Olberman at MSNBC. He already thinks it is Rove |
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but I don't know if he knows the Hatfield story.
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Wed Sep-15-04 12:53 PM
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2. The documents are genuine. |
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Real signatures, real sentiments, real events...real.
No hard evidence has been put up to challenge them, only hearsay. "Probably", "likely"--not good enough, especially when not coming from experts.
Bush probably did cocaine in the 70's and got in trouble for it, which is why he was living with his father for a period in 1973.
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Wed Sep-15-04 12:59 PM
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3. I agree that Bush definitely had a cocaine problem |
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I am leaning toward the belief that the documents are genuine, but the Hatfield story is so intriguing, it made me think, that just possibly Rove is doing this to "necklace" Dan Rather.
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Wed Sep-15-04 05:10 PM
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8. They knew the documents' points would come out, so they just "replaced' |
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them with ones that had enough errors to cast suspicion on not only the documents but the entire story.
Always remember that Bushies have had loyalist exCIA working for them for decades. Agents that were more loyal to the Bush monarchy than to the United States.
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Wed Sep-15-04 01:19 PM
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...this stuff benefits the Bush team more than the Kerry team. Keeps the focus off his record while time is wasted on this stuff.
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Wed Sep-15-04 05:06 PM
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6. No democrat would be that stupid to plant obvious forgeries. |
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It has to be Rove. I just wish Rather had caught it before it became such a distraction from the real issues effecting the average man on the street.
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Wed Sep-15-04 08:28 PM
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13. No Democrat should doubt their authenticity. |
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Especially when we know typewriters capable of replicating this more precisely than what a computer expert is likely to be able to create were not only used by the military for years before the document dates, but were used by the military on a regular basis. See Hubert Flotz' post on TahitiNut's thread.
Especially when we see the pathetic excuses and calculated misdirection from Laura Bush, Newcomer and others, but no hard evidence. Especially when the facts contained in the documents are genuine too. Even the signatures have been deemed genuine.
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Wed Sep-15-04 05:03 PM
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Wed Sep-15-04 05:09 PM
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7. NO! The docs are genuine! |
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I have seen nothing yet to convince me the docs are forged. Every theory has been debunked. This is crazy, people!
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Wed Sep-15-04 05:11 PM
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9. remember the debate tape in 2000? |
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When a videotape of Bush's debate practice was mailed from the Bush campaign to the Gore campaign?
Remember?
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Wed Sep-15-04 05:45 PM
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11. I never heard about that |
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What did he do on the tape?
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Wed Sep-15-04 05:19 PM
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10. wow, use someones integrity and honor against them |
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in deciet and lie. wow. that is something. and proves that he will allow the ugly of bush out to win in hte end. damn
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Wed Sep-15-04 06:19 PM
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I thought the source was Baker III but it really WAS Rove.
Amazing!
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