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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:56 AM
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FINALLY!! President Obama goes on a Media offensive to explain stimulus and recovery!
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 09:59 AM by Liberal_Stalwart71
Well, it's about time! For far too long, the Democratic Party--with the complicity of the M$M--has allowed the Republican Party to define the message. It's time for the president to be a leader and explain how this recovery and stimulus plan will work and exactly what it would do for the American people! He needs to put his plan in explicit, simple and understandable terms so that Americans will have no delusions of what the recovery package is calling for. The genius of the Republicans is their exploitation of language; their use of simple terms and phases that seem to get Americans to respond to their points of view. It's time for the Democrats to find a message that resonates with the American people by putting it plain, simply terms!!!

I just hope it's not too late. When I hear Democrats and even some liberals repeat what they've heard on the T.V. from Republicans and pundits, I want to beat my head against the wall.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/02/stimulus-spin-war-obama-t_n_163305.html?view=print

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Barack Obama is slated to sit down with the five major television news networks tomorrow, a media play that is almost certain to be part of a broader effort to sell his stimulus package to the American public.

The president will conduct interviews in the Oval Office with ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and FOX News on Tuesday afternoon, according to the official White House schedule. The sitdowns come at a delicate time for the president, with concern mounting in Democratic circles that much of the debate over the stimulus has been dominated by the GOP.

Officially, the White House says it is not concerned with how the legislative process has played out. But, in private, party officials have grown acutely frustrated that the Obama White House, Democratic National Committee and congressional Democrats have not mounted a more effective defense of the stimulus package as Republicans seek to tar it as a "spending bill."

There have been "zero marching orders" to "push back on the negative, push the positive, or undercut Republicans," said one Democratic official. "I assume it's taking some time to organize internally too..."

Added another -- lamenting -- party strategist: "Democrats have let the Republicans run around willy-nilly, advancing a number of right-wing myths on falsehoods on this recovery package without pushing back with facts." But another aspect at play is, it seems, fortunate circumstance.

Even so, Republican organization on the stimulus has been a sight to behold -- indeed, a common sight on cable news. While outside groups have begun running television and radio advertisements targeting vulnerable GOP Senators on the recovery package, they have not been supplemented on television and radio talk shows.

As documented by the site Think Progress, Republican lawmakers appeared twice as many times as their Democratic colleagues on cable news during the stimulus debate. And this discrepancy has skewed the stimulus debate in critical ways, progressives say.

"From misrepresentations of a partial CBO analysis to falsely claiming ACORN will receive $4.19 billion from the stimulus, the media has continuously misled the American people about the economic recovery package," said Karl Frisch, Senior Fellow at Media Matters.


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/02/stimulus-spin-war-obama-t_n_163305.html?view=print

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Many of you have accused me and other DUers who are arguing that President Obama and the Dems need to be more assertive and not allow the Republicans to control the message of either: (1) not supporting the president; (2) refusing to see the larger strategic picture; and/or (3) whining.

What many of us are simply saying is that the Democrats continue to allow the Republicans to control the message. They have been all over the media, on political commentary shows, punditry and Sunday morning talk shows...the Repukes have been EVERYWHERE selling Americans a bunch of lies and rhetoric about the stimulus.

Randi Rhodes was right the other day when she said that the Republicans did the same thing in 1992! They tried to block the stimulus bill then. Al Gore broke the tie in the Senate. Dick Armey then went on all the shows, as did most of the Repukes, calling Bill Clinton a "tax and spend liberal." They repeated the same talking points over and over about how the stimulus plan was a 'job killer'. And it worked!! As we know, the elections of 1994 ushered in a Republican revolution and the rest is history.

So instead of those of you hitting back on us who are simply pleading with the Democrats and President Obama to make their message clear and to hit back, please understand that we are frustrated. It is precisely because the Democrats refused to take a stand--and instead allowed the Republicans to define the narrative--that we keep losing these battles.

And while I understand that calls for bipartisanship may be part of a larger strategy, the Repukes are not politically stupid. I'm sure they have cynically challenged this notion and are acutely aware of the game. Sure, invite the moderate Republicans to the same; but at the same time, please don't be naive about what the Republicans are all about. In general, it has become a party who would rather see this country go down the tubes than lose the ideological wars!
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:57 AM
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1. Faux *twitch*twitch*
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:59 AM
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2. I don't understand. Say what you want to say and why you disagree.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:03 AM
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3. All I'm saying is, I hope it's not true that the bill is loaded with crap
that won't "stimulate" anything--like family-planning stuff, etc. This is exactly why Democrats get labeled as big spenders--it's like their eyes glaze over when they take the reins on the budget. "Christmas morning! We'll get all the goodies we ever wanted!!" I wish Obama had instructed Nancy and the crew to keep it to a stripped-down, basic bill.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:32 AM
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9. Obama wants that stuff out. He has mdae that clear about the Senate version.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:34 AM
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11. Good. I hope so.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:39 AM
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13. Heard it on CNN last night. Remember he said to get rid of the
contraceptive/birth control stuff. Legitimate problem, does not belong in the stimulus bill.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:40 PM
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17. That's why it's called the Pelosi bill
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:44 AM
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15. Those things have been taken out. The Republicans have been given
everything they wanted: tax cuts, small business benefits, reduced spending for infrastructure. How much do Dems have to cave?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:30 PM
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16. I don't think eliminating unrelated spending is a "cave"--it's good PR and
good legislative practice. Let those "goodies" that Dems AND Repubs want that are unrelated to infrastructure, job growth, etc. go on other bills. The GOP/Dem struggle should be about what will work best to stimulate the economy, not a battle of tangential political philosophies (for example, I'd be pissed if the GOP version of the bill called for new defense spending, or anti-abortion measures, etc., same as I would be annoyed at Dems trying to push through little pet Dem projects that don't directly relate to the economy).
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:45 PM
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20. This is a once in a generation chance to change how
our economy operates. He will not get a second bite at the apple.

If he settles for unambitious half-measures now, he will provide even less bold leadership down the road.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:05 PM
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22. Every bill with opposition should be going in with stuff that can be thrown out.
That's just basic negotiation strategy.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:07 PM
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23. That's true.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:06 AM
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4. I had MSNBC on yesterday and it was mostly Reps that
were being interviewed. When I finally saw a Dem being interviewed (I forget his name) it was one of the Dems who was against the stimulus package. Not one single person interviewed who was for the package... not one.

Yep it's time for the Pres to get out there and take control of the discussion.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:32 AM
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10. Yeah CNN. Just had Conrad on trashing the bill
LOL. I guess they couldn't find a Democrat who would support it
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:22 AM
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5. This most excellent article/analysis is quite different than say,for ex: "F** the Repubs HARD"!
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 10:23 AM by K Gardner
Far too often, those screaming from the left are doing just that: screaming and profanely cursing and yelling, as if that is going to change a mind, make a legitimate point, or even make anyone of rational mind want to listen to them.. you get my drift.

Of course we want to see our new administration go "on the offensive". We WANT to see those RW Talking Points replaced with Truth. As it said in this article, it has probably taken them some time to organize their 'truth machine', but I feel confident going forward that Obama will understand that replacing false memes with Truth is going to be a very important part of moving this nation forward - and I feel certain he will do it.

K&R
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:25 AM
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6. Too bad the interviews will be consumed with Tax questions on Daschle
and others
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:27 AM
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7. No No no..... he doesn't have leadership.
That's not leadership! That's sexist! :rofl:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:29 AM
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8. Obama and Dems should have been OUT THERE ON DAY ONE...before congress even voted...
..on this thing. They should have been out there far and wide touting this thing. That ought to be considered part ad parcel of getting any legislation passed. PERIOD.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:35 AM
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12. I hope it will be part and parcel from now on.. I wonder if they thought the RW was actually
going to cooperate? I'd venture to say they'll be out in front now with anything they hope to pass.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:25 AM
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14. Yea it does appear that they got bit on this in regards to PR. I hope the Obama admin learns...
...and can mitigate the damage now done. Zoiks.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:42 PM
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18. They better learn fast, this is only the first hirdle
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:43 PM
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19. Obama is just KEEPING HIS POWDER DRY.
Partisan advocacy is off the table.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:59 PM
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21. The problem is not the Democrats, it's the media.
The media is in the tank for the right-wing. This should be a "Duh" point here on DU, but people keep forgetting this.

I'll bet there are plenty of Democrats in Congress and elsewhere who'd love to be interviewed and tell the public why the stimulus package is absolutely necessary, and why it should be infrastructure building rather than tax cuts.

Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, and all the other right-wing media robber-barons won't have it. All the media outlets have their marching orders on how to cover this debate - drown out the Democrats, and don't let them have a voice.

That's why Obama's going out there himself - while FAUX Noise can brush off a Democratic Senator, they can't brush off the President of the United States.

Obama beat the media at its own game even though they pulled out all the stops to smear him during the election - for several weeks straight, the media would do nothing but play Rev. Wright saying "GOD DAMN AMERICA" on tape-loop over and over and over. Obama found a way to get elected despite the media's best efforts, with things like the race speech, using the Internet, and so on. Now that he's President, he's got the bully pulpit, so the media can't ignore him, no matter how much they want to.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:08 PM
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24. "The problem is not the Democrats, it's the media."
Words to live by, my friends. Words to live by.
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