I think electing Obama was a huge mistake

[prolesunited]

Can we get a do-over?

If only we had elected (fill in the blank), they would have tossed Bush and Cheney in jail, steamrolled over the GOP and had universal healthcare by now, and clamped down on the media for running all of these negative stories.

So, who do you think would be doing a better job by now? Perhaps we can run the government by proxy from DU.

[wyldwolf]

1. some people set the bar so high that they're always disappointed

[rurallib]

2. Our choices were Obama and McCain (with Palin)

So does this mean you wanted Johnny 72?
We have a job to do now, which is to keep the admin working for us.

[Tesha]

8. early on intheprocess, our choices were a good bit wider than just John vs. The DLC (NT)

[prolesunited]

11. OK, so who would we be better under right now

Name names.

[Danger Mouse]

23. Uh, Obama is the DLC?

[Tesha]

28. One is known by the company one keeps.

'You see any progressives in his government? I'm not even
sure I see any little-d democrats. But I do see Rahm Emanuel
and a lot of his cronies.

Tesha

[WildEyedLiberal]

30. Everyone who pisses the purity brigade off is "DLC" whether they've ever actually belonged or not

And, since it isn't hard to piss off the purity brigade, pretty much the entire Democratic Party besides Kucinich and the ghost of Paul Wellstone is "DLC."

It doesn't bother me that people want Obama to make more liberal, progressive decisions. It *does* bother me when people say things that aren't true.

Obama is NOT DLC. That is a fact. You can have your opinions - eg, Obama is too conservative - but you cannot invent your own facts.

[Honeycombe8]

60. No, they weren't. Obama was one of maybe only 2 who could've beat the Repub Machine.

Obama....and MAYBE Clinton.

If Clinton had won the nomination and then the Presidency, she's even more conservative than Obama.

All the others...they didn't stand a chance at winning the Presidency, even if they'd won the nomination.

[polmaven]

64. Exactly...

What many here refuse to realize is that the country WILL NOT elect a Kucinich or Gravel. DU is not the real world. DU is very much further left than the electorate as a whole.

But I guess this is as good a place as any for us to come to whine and complain when we need to and there is really no place else to go.

[Tesha]

68. That, of course, is one of those fun statements that can never be proven right or wrong.

You'd make a perfect pundit ;) .

Tesha

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

25. With McGrumpy, there was hardly a choice.

[phleshdef]

3. Watch out, some people still can't interpret painfully obvious sarcasm.

[uponit7771]

4. Please use /sarcasm end tag...some folk are sensitive.. You hate a good point

[phleshdef]

9. I'm sorry but if you can't spot blatant sarcasm, you deserve to get all butthurt over nothing.

[Sheets of Easter]

15. The sarcasm tag negates the purpose of sarcasm.

Yes, some folks are sensitive, and they're also unreasonable and perhaps a bit dense.

[elocs]

5. I've always said that Obama should just be a puppet and let DU make all decisions.

Then everything would be perfect because everything thing that is to be known can be found here at DU. You might say that we are "know-it-alls".

[Kahuna]

6. If not DU, then at least ralph nader and his protege David Sirota..nt

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. Mark Crispin Miller and LaRouche should be given cabinet appointments. (nt)

[Jamastiene]

59. You can't be serious.

DUers don't even agree on how to cook fried chicken. :rofl: :P

[Yavin4]

10. Maybe This Guy

[phleshdef]

12. Something tells me his stimulus package is way too small.

[NoPasaran]

18. Don't worry, they'll add the pork back in the conference committee!

[phleshdef]

22. LOL. Hurray for BIG government.

[nightrain]

13. yes, Obama is not perfect. However, he is a far-sight better than Bush.

Let's give him a chance even though there are many things he's done and doing that I disagree with. It's only been 2 weeks!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

16. Two weeks is an eternity in politics. [/sarcasm] Obama's as close to perfect as we were gonna get.

[Vattel]

40. way too early to claim that

[endarkenment]

14. I think Judd Gregg is a turd-knuckle and that it is unacceptable

for three vetted admin selections to have ridiculous tax problems. I ain't happy about secret rendition either. Other than that this administration is of course a most welcome breath of fresh air. Cheer leading is stupid. We voice opinions here and have discussions.

[asteroid2003QQ47]

62. It can't be said much better than that!

You have nailed it, endarkenment, though I'd have put more emphasis on--

Cheer leading is stupid. Cheer leading is stupid. Cheer leading is stupid.
Cheer leading is stupid. Cheer leading is stupid. Cheer leading is stupid.
Cheer leading is stupid. Cheer leading is stupid. Cheer leading is stupid.

(and counterproductive too.)

[Harry Monroe]

17. Only 2 weeks have passed and you're bitching already?!

WTF?? Give him some time. Sure he's made a few mistakes in his picks for his cabinet. Granted the vetting process could have been better, but this is what you get when you don't have the luxury of time to put together a cohesive team. Things are bound to fall through the cracks. What do you expect?? Think back to Clinton's first term and remember how much time he had to put a team together. The economy wasn't in shambles and he didn't have the sense of emergency that we have now.

So, if Obama is a huge mistake, who is your alternative?? Give it a little time; it will all come together. Patience is a virtue.

[Harry Monroe]

19. Oh hell, was this supposed to be sarcasm??

I couldn't tell. If it was, my bad for my last post.

[Beacool]

20. I'm biting my tongue.........

Continuing to bite my tongue. Better make a quick exit before I get myself banned.

:popcorn:

[CakeGrrl]

33. Why bother? You just telegraphed your true feelings by making this post

Biting your tongue would've meant not posting at all. Your true feelings about Obama can't help but bubble to the surface.

Question is, do you want your favorite candidate to wait until 2016? My guess is no.

;-)

[Beacool]

37. I was just kidding.

Though I admit biting my tongue on occasion. As for my fav. candidate, she is not Teddy. She would never run against a sitting president of her own party.

:D

[CakeGrrl]

39. Fair enough - I won't harsh on your hopes for 2016.

;-)

[prolesunited]

50. I hardly doubt the media would be going easier on Hillary right now

or there wouldn't be constant jokes about Bill being back in the White House with interns again.

[Beacool]

67. I'm sure that you're right.

It's been more than 10 years since the Monica issue and they still are harping about it. I didn't care then and I definitely care even less now. Even though I was not exactly thrilled with his conduct, I always thought that it was a private matter and that Starr had set him up (thanks to that nasty woman, Linda Tripp).

IMO, sexual peccadillos are no one's business but that of the people involved. With one caveat, that the people are adults and no one is forced to do anything they don't want to do.

My motto is live and let live.

:shrug:

[Danger Mouse]

21. Isn't this just slightly over the top?

:)

[busymom]

24. Give him time.....n/t

[Runcible Spoon]

26. Stupid post is stupid.

*golfclap*

[CitizenPatriot]

27. Right on!

I so agree!!! I was thinking Rush Limbaugh could help out, cuz I hear at least he has some good ideas, you know?

It would also be great if we could get the media to stop being so biased toward Obama. Not fair!!!

The leaks from the GOP haven't gotten enough air time:

OBama continuing extraordinary renditions -- NOT TRUE, but a great effort on their part and didn't get enuf air time! wah! Lies, lies, lies....wish that they could go on forever!

Leaked stimulus report "won't stimulate economy" -- not the real report. when real report comes out, saying it WILL stimulate economy, at least one person covered it! Damn! this has got to end. Get the pork out! We don't need no levees!

He really needs to get going. today is TWO weeks he's been sitting around, doing nothing. well, ok, undoing a lot of something...but still...

:-)

Obama/Biden 2016 (wink wink)


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[AtomicKitten]

29. This would make an awesome poll. n/t

[Carni]

31. Oh COME ON...I wasn't even FOR Obama in the primaries

But good God the man has only been in office for two weeks!

I knew he didn't have a magic wand to fix everything in a day and he's certainly a far cry above McCain and the Bush reich part duex.

Is he left leaning enough for everyone here at DU? No, probably not but if we had gotten the *progressive candidate* Kucinich would have won the primaries which was about as likely as monkey's flying out of my butt on election day.

Cut the man some slack...Rome was not built in a day and I would suggest tuning out the talking heads on TV for few days....like those F-ers are unbiased?
HA! Not hardly seeing as they probably all make over 6 figures.

[Teaser]

32. Please beware of the stupids

they will not understand your humor, and will rage for hours at this.

It will be a good time for all of us.

[Sandrine for you]

34. I'm the one you are looking for. Yes me, myself. I'm serious...

And I'll put a new national capital in Wakefield.

Put the Capitol just there: http://www.wakefieldmill.com/home/index_e.php

So everybody will come to relax.

[Control-Z]

35. Maybe we can get Sarah Palin

to step up and give him a hand.

[Enrique]

36. can we start a countdown clock counting the days til he's gone

:rofl:

[hughee99]

38. Don't blame me, I voted for Skinner. :) n/t

[undeterred]

41. In a perfect world we would have elected Russ Feingold.

You asked.

[BuyingThyme]

42. We ARE running the government from DU.

[ddeclue]

43. John Edwards and/or Dennis Kucinich.. nt

[Skittles]

49. definitely Kucinich

[karynnj]

66. Edwards would have lost even without the scandal

Remember the This Week appearance when Stephanopolis hit JRE with 4 major 180 degree changes in his positions in his very short public career - all written on a blackboard? He handled that horribly - and part of the problem was that he had NO narrative explaining the change.

Remember how Kerry framed McCain - contrasting the somewhat reasonable "Senator McCain" with the radically conservative "Candidate McCain" - that would be how Senator Edwards would be portrayed. In addition, they would dig out statements where he point blank lied about what his position was at a particular instant in time.

Before you say that this would cancel between McCain and Edwards, consider the difference in tone because of prior public perception of their lives. Kerry had to carefully avoid appearing to attack McCain's character - including all the assumed good characteristics in "Senator McCain". In Edwards' case, showing the huge number of flips on major issues and lies - then speaking of him being a trial lawyer. (I know they serve on important purpose - but you know the stereotype).

I also think that one on one, HRC would have made mincemeat of him.

[Two Americas]

44. no one is saying that

This is flame bait. It is dishonest, malicious and suppressive.

[juno jones]

45. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

(deep intake of breath)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

:rofl:

WHO out of the last crop of contenders would be able to do all you speak of in 12 days? There's always Kucinich, but if he had run we'd have Pres McCain, tuit suite!

Obama is about the best of evils as we can summon in this sick country of ours. Just goes to show that we need to focus on the local runners before they have the chance to go big-time (as in S.Palin).

[Life Long Dem]

46. I'm bored!

:boring:

[GeorgeGist]

47. Surely, you can and Obama can do better.

[obiwan]

48. Do me a favor, give him some time. It's only been 2 weeks.

Take a chill pill, deal with your anxiety, and BE PATIENT.

It's gonna take some time to deal with 8 years of fuckups.

Barack is a real decent human being, probably the best president in the last 50 years. Give him a chance.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

51. while she does that, why dont you familiarize yourself with the concept of sarcasm?

[prolesunited]

57. It's my fault

I didn't use the tags. I thought it was obvious. I was just frustrated by spending too much time here lately.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

70. its not your fault. its clearly sarcasm and hyperbole.

:)

[cherish44]

52. This unprecidented uncompetence is utterly unacceptable

I know it's "incompetence" but I was going for alliteration... Where to I buy my Obama Worst President Ever T Shirt?
Edit: And you know what else was a big mistake?...New Coke. Remember that fuckery?

[onefreespiritedchick]

53. WHAT?

Puleeze! :wtf:

[ZombieHorde]

54. "tossed Bush and Cheney in jail, steamrolled over the GOP and had universal healthcare"

Add gay marriage and you have Kucinich.

[prolesunited]

56. If Kucinich go elected

all that would be a done deal?

[ZombieHorde]

58. He would try very hard, which is more than we may get in some of those areas.

[stillcool]

61. not in this country...

[Donald Ian Rankin]

63. True. Plus, the flying pigs could be used to power wind turbines.

Which is not to say that what you say is untrue.

[Clio the Leo]

55. Yes! Government by Proxy!

Love it!

And I'm nominating you for our leader because of this hillarious post. Sorry most of the folks missed your humor. ;)

[pokercat999]

65. got A D D?

[anonymous171]

69. The problem IMO is congress.

Too many blue dogs and wimpy "progressives" who only show backbone when fighting for gun bans.

[old mark]

71. What you are seeing is a rightist-owned media finding every fault

possible, even when few really exist. They were silent or approving of a lot of real crime committed by the Bush regime, and now are back to boldly attacking the brand new Democratic administration every possible way because that is what they are paid to do. There are few of these people who are really impartial or even slightly left, and they will be singled out by the rightist majority as hjaving a distorting effect (telling the other side of the story) and trying to fool the poor American public.
They are just warming up.

I think Obama is doing a fine job, and I applaud his effort to include the repubs - it gives them more opportunity to show how idiotic they really are.


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