I don't get it. Obama wants us to get over the past 8 years and get along with Republicans now..

[girl gone mad]

but he and Emanuel can't get over whatever petty differences they had with Howard Dean?

It's hypocrisy.

[ellacott]

1. What petty differences did Obama have with Dean?

[NJmaverick]

2. Stop that! Stop injecting facts into the situation

you are going to ruin a perfectly good rant

[EFerrari]

5. There were no facts in that post.

lol

[NJmaverick]

8. The post pointed out the OP was lacking in facts

a fact the OP (and apparantly you) would rather we didn't notice

[EFerrari]

10. You congratulated the poster for injecting invisible facts

AND Rahm's efforts to tank Dean should be at your disposal.

http://www.slate.com/id/2154259/

[ellacott]

17. My question was what petty differences does Obama have with Dean?

[EFerrari]

22. I've never heard of a spat between Obama and Dean.

Dean provided Obama with a template for his on line campaign and also, got him votes in states the establishment didn't want to wade into.

But, Obama is close to a few people who did have problems with Dean. And it's pretty obvious that Dean is being frozen out as in, for someone who contributed so much to this victory, you don't see many pix of Obama and Dean together.

[ellacott]

30. That was my question

I never heard of a spat between Obama and Dean either.

[EFerrari]

39. I don't think it's there. Both Obama and Dean are too decent do pull stuff like that

AND act it out in public. It must be peripheral people -- or, that's my take anyway.

[ellacott]

40. That's how is see it also

[girl gone mad]

14. What facts?

what am I missing?

[girl gone mad]

12. This was reported on CNN a few minutes ago..

Wolf mentioned that he had been getting a lot of emails from Dean friends and supporters and asked John King if Dean was a realistic candidate for HHS. King said that even though Dean has campaigned openly for the job and is qualified, because of the bad blood between the Obama team and the Dean team, he doesn't have a shot.

[EFerrari]

3. There is that.

:rofl:

[BobRossi]

4. DLC baby!

We been punked!

[Thrill]

6. What differences does Obama have with Dean?

And even if there were. They wouldn't pick Dean for HHS because in order to get Healthcare passed you need Repuke Support and they hate Dean.

[EFerrari]

11. They didn't hate Daschle?

Who could Obama pick besides Bill Frist that wouldn't be hated? :shrug:

[Thrill]

25. They didn't hate Daschle. He was a moderate Senator

[EFerrari]

42. He was a moderate but it seems to me, they had plenty of hostility towards him.

Maybe because he was leader? They played all kinds of really ugly games in the election he lost. My impression is, he knows where the graveyard is.

It's hard to believe the Democrats knocked him out for a lesser sin than the other guy had committed. :shrug:

[SIMPLYB1980]

7. Yawn. Just what are these supposed differences.

Dean has even said no snub has happened. Or do you think Dr. Dean is a liar?

[EFerrari]

9. Am I insane or did I hear that Rahm wanted Dean booted as chair in 2006?

If I hallucinated that, please someone set me straight!

[SIMPLYB1980]

15. I could care less about 2006. Some people don't hold grudges that long.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/1/12/23455/5870/63/683379

""As far as I know, it's not true. I have not clashed with Obama's advisors."

According the the report, Dean noted that he did clash with one of Obama's advisors but it occurred before the person became an advisor to Obama. He also said it would be very hard to change a trip to American Samoa for a press conference.

"You know, people like to say those kinds of things just to stir things up," Dean said. "I'm not interested in stirring things up. We have a lot of important problems in front of us and we need to deal with that...not gossip and the internet."

Gov. Dean also said that he didn't know if he was invited to the news conference because he was on his way to American Samoa when it happened."

[EFerrari]

18. I think that's called dismissing information that doesn't fit your opinion. n/t

/typo

[SIMPLYB1980]

24. Hey if you can dismiss the FACT that Dean himself said he is not

being snubbed like 2 weeks ago, then I think it's fine for me to dismiss some "facts" that are over 2 years old.

[EFerrari]

28. I haven't dismissed anything, thanks.

And there's no use putting quotation marks around the DLC's active hostility to Dean for the last five years. Good grief, what does it get you, finally?

We're going to lose someone as talented as Dean over the petulance of a few control freaks. That's just stupid.

[SIMPLYB1980]

33. Neither did I, but you had no problem stating that I was.

Pot meet Kettle. I guess petulance is O.K. as long as it's coming from you.

[EFerrari]

34. I could care less about 2006. Some people don't hold grudges that long.

[SIMPLYB1980]

45. How is that dissmissing? I read the Slate article and that's my opinion.

Dissmissing would be to ignore the slate article all together. I'm wondering what is your opinion on Dean's comments that I linked to. Do you think he's lying?

[EFerrari]

46. "I could care less" = dismissal. That's just English comprehension.

And while Dean made those statements in public, his brother and others contradicted them. I don't pretend to second guess Howard Dean. He's his own man and a very good one, at that.

[SIMPLYB1980]

47. Just because I could care less doesn't

mean I dissmissed the article. You can take in old facts like that old article, then look at new articles like the one I liked to, and come to the conclusion that what happened then has no bearing on what is happening now. At least we can agree that Howard Dean is a good man.

[girl gone mad]

13. It was reported on CNN.

Take it up with John King.

[SIMPLYB1980]

16. So I'm suposed to trust John King........

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[girl gone mad]

21. John King, Rick Sanchez..

they have more access to the insiders than most people on DU.

[MadBadger]

29. Doesnt Rick Sanchez have himself tasered and waterboarded Daily?

[girl gone mad]

38. No. n/t

[ellacott]

27. Now CNN is the standard

Next week there will be posts saying how biased CNN is.

I guess it depends on the information you hear. If it fits the narrative then they are a great source. Too funny.

[Political Tiger]

19. And you know this how? n/t

[Danger Mouse]

20. Unless we know for sure that Obama has some sort of problem with Dean...

then this OP is bunk.
I think if anybody has a problem with Dean, it's most likely Emanuel. I'm not really sure though.
I don't trust the media.

[EFerrari]

23. Carville said Dean's chairmanship was "Rumsfeldian" in its incompetence.

That doesn't sound like a compliment to me. It's Rahm but not only Rahm. It's all the establishment types who are still pissed at Dean for being successful at anything they didn't control, imo. And that's stupid because he brings so much to the table.

/oops

[Danger Mouse]

26. What does Carville have to do with it? Carville is a cockroach.

He has always hated Dean, and he trashed Obama plenty too. Is he very close to Obama now? I realize there are establishment types who resent Dean's successes. I'm not sure how Obama feels personally, though.

[EFerrari]

36. I agree with all of that but Carville is closer to the Obama circle than Dean is.

Obama has, after all, surrounded himself with his former rivals in the Clinton camp. (And no, I'm not dissing Hillary in saying that.)

[Danger Mouse]

41. Yuck, who would want James Gollum anywhere near him?

:puke:

[EFerrari]

43. Not me!

lol

:)

[ClarkUSA]

31. WTF are you talking about? Are we supposed to believe this BS flamebait?

[Solomon]

32. You're right.

You don't get it.

[girl gone mad]

44. Then explain it to me.

Why is it that Obama considers it so important that we put aside differences with Republicans so we can get things done, yet he doesn't seem willing to put aside differences with Dean for the good of the country?

[slinkerwink]

35. Yes, it is hypocrisy. Whatever happened to Team of Rivals?

[stray cat]

37. So the whole US population can be included in the cabinet?

Usually you only hire one person for one job and jobs are never unlimited in number

[Arkana]

48. Wait...what?

Rahm's the only one with a beef with Dean--Obama and Dean don't have issues.