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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 08:49 PM
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Only JRE and DK advocated REAL universal health care in the 2008 election.
Which is why I think John Edwards or Dennis Kucinich should get the HHS job now.

For those of you who have forgotten...

From John Edwards campaign website:

That's all I need to know to think he is the best choice.

http://johnedwards.com/about/issues/health-care-overview.pdf

"More than any of the presidential candidates, John Edwards has come up with a specific and plausible plan that provides for health care coverage for all Americans."

Nicholas Kristof
The New York Times


"So this is a smart, serious proposal. It addresses both the problem of the uninsured and the waste and inefficiency of our fragmented insurance system. And every candidate should be pressed to come up with something comparable."

Paul Krugman
The New York Times

"hile health care for all is now a popular slogan, Edwards is the only candidate offering a plan that would actually get to universal coverage."

-- Karen Tumulty
Time Magazine
"John Edwards came out with the most comprehensive plan for healthcare."

-- Andy Stern, President, Service Employees International Union

"John Edwards has made a serious and thoughtful proposal to address the growing health care crisis. His innovative plan offers practical steps to lower the high cost of health care, improve the quality of care and provide coverage for all Americans."

-- Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (MA


John Edwards has a bold plan to transform America's health care system and provide universal health care for every man, woman and child in America.

Under the Edwards Plan:

Families without insurance will get coverage at an affordable price.
Families with insurance will pay less and get more security and choices.
Businesses and other employers will find it cheaper and easier to insure their workers.
The Edwards Plan achieves universal coverage by:
Requiring businesses and other employers to either cover their employees or help finance their health insurance.

Making insurance affordable by creating new tax credits, expanding Medicaid and SCHIP, reforming insurance laws, and taking innovative steps to contain health care costs.
Creating regional "Health Care Markets" to let every American share the bargaining power to purchase an affordable, high-quality health plan, increase choices among insurance plans, and cut costs for businesses offering insurance.

Once these steps have been taken, requiring all American residents to get insurance.
Securing universal healthcare for every American will require the active involvement of millions of Americans.

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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 08:50 PM
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1. Or he could pick someone who didn't run for Prez this year. Enough with the Team of Rivals already.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:36 PM
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7. We had a great crop of candidates. But the ship has left the dock for Edwards. nt
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 08:52 PM
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2. sorry
individual mandates are not universal health care. Universal health care means some form of single payer system.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 08:59 PM
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3. Single payer is the only thing that makes any sense
So I would think we would be best served by that approach rather than the DLC dream of corporate welfare for Insurance companies.

Therefore I agree DK would be a good choice, unfortunately if you haven't noticed there was a DLC coup that just took over the party so we will most likely get Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel (not kidding).

He likes Insurance companies and wants to add a 10% sales tax to go directly to them and all they have to do is offer the most BASIC coverage plan offered now by employers.
http://www.pbs.org/now/news/315.html
The rich will of course have better options involving meaningful care but that is the way the DLC rolls. Corporations first, citizens second (except for the affluent of course)
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:47 PM
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8. That thought crossed my mind this afternoon...
:hi:

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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:24 PM
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11. The feelers are already showing up here - have you seen this?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:47 PM
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12. I did now....
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 10:48 PM by slipslidingaway
and gave it a K&R, not cause I agree with his proposal, but I would like to shine some light on it beforehand.

Hope that makes sense.

Thanks

:)

Been reading more about the trillions we are spending on bailouts, we'll never have the money for HC if we spend it elsewhere.

:( :(

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=308&topic_id=847&mesg_id=847



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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:00 PM
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4. If you're going to advocate for someone because of their position, why not pick someone
who is actually in favor of single-payer? Or at least someone who isn't an ethical nightmare?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:23 PM
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5. Edwards is damaged good. He has to stay away for several years
before people will start take him seriously, listen to what he says instead of thinking of his mistress of his (maybe) love child and the way he betrayed his wife, his kids and us, his supporters (of which I was one).

Kucinich is a joke that no one takes seriously, except DUers. And, no, admiring his performance in bed with that titian beauty is not a reason for an appointment. (Must be, right?)

And, no, it is not because of DU that Daschle withdrew, as much as some would like to think so.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:28 PM
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6. How many threads are you going to start about the disgraced Edwards for HHS?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:07 PM
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9. except Edwards didn't
.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:14 PM
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10. And then there's that!!! Saw it so many times during the primaries
:hi:
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