Blue Dog Democrats threaten to walk away from the stimulus bill

[Thrill]

Blue Dog Democrats threaten to walk away from the stimulus bill unless more "wasteful spending" is cut out.

Leaders of the 49-member coalition make the warning in a letter Thursday to Pelosi and Hoyer.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/32091-1.html

See this is what you have to deal with being a Democrat as President.

When people hear Obama talking about Bipartisan. Hes not just talking about Republicans. He knows he has to worry about his own party in Congress.

[tyne]

1. I'd wager

that Obama is with them on this.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

12. Obama has said that he wants the bill passed immediately.

So I don't think he would be with the blue dogs here.

[roguevalley]

32. damned idiots. I loathe them. call them republicans. dogs are loyal and good.

[stray cat]

17. I know he wants it passed but I am not convinced your wrong - he also wanted it as a stimulus

and not good things thrown in that were less stimulating

[thereismore]

25. What? Why would you think that? nt

[Political Heretic]

2. I fucking hate these assholes with all my heart.

[Larkspur]

3. Blue Dog Dems = Repukes

What are they calling wasteful spending, the stuff that creates jobs?

[thereismore]

26. No, but I think you mistake the Dem party with a Progressive party. nt

[jody]

4. Perhaps they have a point. I don't want a penny spent on pork. n/t

[SemiCharmedQuark]

10. What do you define as "pork"?

[Thrill]

16. Probably what they hear the Republicans call 'pork'

[jody]

22. In the current economic crisis, any expense that does not in the near term provide jobs in the basic

industries and critical infrastructure.

IMO there is a real danger of jobs in basic industries lost in the present recession being permanently outsourced when the economy eventually recovers to some more stable state.

One prime infrastructure example is repair of our interstate highways that need hundreds of billions if not several trillion dollars in maintenance.

I don't trust any politician, period and I want my two senators and congress-critter to protect the interests of their constituents, not special interests or party leaders' agendas.

What would you do to insure dollars are not misspent?

[Better Believe It]

30. Do you favor the National Conference of Mayor's Infrastruture Project Plan? I do.

Take a look at it.

Republicans and some Democrats will attack it.

These are good "pork" projects if that's what some right-wingers want to call them.

It proposes 18,750 local infrastruture projects in 779 cities that will cost $150 billion dollars and create 1.6 million public works jobs. All of these projects can be started soon and completed before the end of 2010.

The reports give details on every project including a description of the job, its cost and how many people will be employed.

You can read what projects are proposed for your city.

Read it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8164474

[jody]

36. Thanks, I replied to the DU thread you cited. n/t

[LakeSamish706]

5. Must be time for President Obama to declare a Dictatorship and disolve...

this horror show that we call a Congress...... They are fast becoming a joke on both sides of the isle.

[bunnies]

6. Why did we even bother electing Obama?

We should have just let McCain fuck it up - at least that way we wouldnt have to take the blame. :banghead:

[Enrique]

7. so a lot of people here think Pelosi should comply

right? Isn't that the problem? Too much pork?

[firedupdem]

8. Jeez.....n/t

[Blue_Tires]

9. ugh...craptastic

ignorant blue dogs trying to score some grandstanding points in their red districts...

[tyne]

11. Hey guys...

Obama wants that pork gone too.

[DCBob]

13. Herding cats...

Seems a bit premature -- they have not even seen the Senate version.

[FLAprogressive]

14. Spay and neuter these little fuckers.

[Dr.Phool]

19. Fuck that!

Put 'em to sleep.

[AtomicKitten]

15. Useless bastards. n/t

[tyne]

18. They are playing

an important part to getting this bill passed. Kudos to them.

[AtomicKitten]

20. How? By obstructing it to get a wingnut/Blue Dog version? Eff that. n/t

[madfloridian]

21. Last time I griped about Blue Dogs...

I was told how we have to let them represent their district. That we had to pick them to run because they could not win in the Southern areas unless we picked someone almost Republican to run. And I was told it was ok to get the other more progressive ones out of the race because they could not win in such areas.

It was the handpicked candidates of DCCC under Rahm, and now Van Hollen and the DSCC under Schumer who are comprising the majority of the Blue Dogs.

They were picked by our leadership because they wanted someone who like a Republican to win.

So now we have to live with them.

[Neecy]

23. I love how they're called 'fiscally conservative Democrats"

It's a nice way of saying they're bought and paid for by US corporations.

[JVS]

24. Those worthless shits

[democracy1st]

27. this is what happens when a party goes center right, these are the individuals that carry the

rightwings weight

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[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

29. I Can Somewhat Understand That. There Was A Lot Of Unnecessary Pork In It.

This isn't the time for such pork, as the things being requested could be done at some other time. For the stimulus bill though, everything should be far more direct and immediately related. Much of the things weren't, and I can understand their outrage at it. Personally, I was quite disappointed myself that so much pork was stuffed into that bill. There's a time and a place, and this wasn't it.

[otohara]

33. Salazar's Brother

is the other republican in the family.

I was thrilled when Obama took Sen. Salazar out of the senate. John is worse than Ken, but both have terrible judgment and can't make a move with out consulting the various D.C. clubs they belong to.

Gang of eight, gang of 4, Blue Dogs...

[AtomicKitten]

34. Can anybody find a copy of that letter so we can peruse the signatures?

[bvar22]

35. Welcome to "Pragmatic Centrism"

In the New Era of "Post-Partisanship",
being Half-Republican is a good thing.

NOW we have Your Children’s Money too !!!
And there is not a fucking thing you can do about it!
Now THIS is “Post-Partisanship” !
Better get used to it!!
Hahahahahahahahaha!



Too bad I am forever ALL Democrat, even if I am forced to find another Party to represent me.
Half-Republicans make me sick, and have destroyed the Democratic Party.

I noticed on another thread that they are now throwing the Poor and Unemployed under the bus.

"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[cooolandrew]

37. Have people got some people ready to oppose them in primaries 2010 ? Or whatever date they re-elect.

[WeDidIt]

38. George W. Bush lead a party of lockstep marching sheep.

Barack Obama herds cats.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. Can we neuter these blue dogs, please?! We have to vote these pseudo-dems out of office.

[anonymous171]

40. Is there any way we can cut them off from the party's coffers?