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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:12 PM
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Gergen worries that Obama was too partisan tonight
:cry:
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:13 PM
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1. not black enough, too black, not partisan enough... too partisan
where have I heard this before
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:13 PM
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2. Gergen needs to insert his anal plug much deeper
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:27 PM
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23. No wonder he's so full of it.
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:14 PM
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3. Oh no, now the republicans won't vote for his bill ! WTF!
He was supposed to be bipartisan at a Democratic debate? Bite me Gergen
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:14 PM
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4. FRUCK EM.
Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 10:15 PM by Why Syzygy
Who could possibly give a shit what he thinks?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:15 PM
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5. fuck Gergen
Asshole said Cheney was "perhaps" out of line for suggesting that America be attacked again. He also suggested that democrats cave to republican demands so the stimulus bill would be 50-50. Something has happened to the guy, he used to make sense most nights.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:01 AM
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48. You DO know he worked for Nixon and Reagan before being "Independent"?
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:15 PM
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6. You have to be kidding, we did not elect a republican.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:43 PM
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31. This isn't D & R, 50-50 rationale, but spending to stimulate. Gergen needs to talk about that.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:11 AM
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46. Precisely. He also need to talk about how this really is a jobs bill
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:15 PM
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7. Yeah, he did NOT win any Freepers over ...
Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 10:16 PM by Clio the Leo
.... just came from over there (yes, I showered, not to worry) and they are NOT impressed. All four of them. :)

Apparently, our President is "arrogant" and we all voted for him because "he's cute." Gotta love it when the worst thing they can say about him is "he's too cute."
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:15 PM
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8. Too partisan! Does he expect Obama to kiss all things Republican!
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:16 PM
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9. No. This is how President Obama needs to be 24x7.
I thought it was fantastic. And FUCK the Republicans. They've more than fucked things up and need to just crawl under a rock and DIE.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:17 PM
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11. I dont know about that....
... and I suspect his speech might have been different had it been in front of a non-partian crowd. (I wondered for a bit if he knew it was being televised lol.)

But it was a nice change to the Kum By Ya. .... Change is good ya know.

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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:16 PM
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10. It's always the same thing with the Republicans
Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 10:17 PM by Patsy Stone
Project your actions on your opponent and call them out for doing exactly what you're doing, whether they are or not. I mean, we all know the Republicans aren't acting at all partisan during this debate, right?

And, David, you know what? So what if he was?! What have the Republicans done to deserve better?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:17 PM
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12. Being partisan means standing for something
This is what we stand for. This is what THEY (the "other") stands for.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:18 PM
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13. Bullshit. He needs to crank it up 3 or 4 more notches
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:19 PM
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14. The corporatists have always preferred the GOP
Their mouthpieces are trying to goad Obama towards their position.

Partisanship was just "business as usual" when the GOP controlled DC, but when the Dems take over its a disaster.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:20 PM
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15. fuck gergen! he's damned if does and damned if he doesn't n/t
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 11:27 PM
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38. Oh Gergen Is A Lost Mad Cow Looking To Justify His Inner Repuke
I have never bought into his shit. Fucking Repuke too terrified to claim it, but sorry he is Repuke scum. He's worried about his tax breaks. Fuck him with a red hot poker. Sorry jerk off David we smell you.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:20 PM
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16. Good, I want him to be partisan. eom
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:24 PM
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21. Ditto that!
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soccermomforobama Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:21 PM
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17. WAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Next on the WAAAAAAAMBULANCE:

Eric Cantor (while hold a transcript of Obama's speech tonight) crying. . ."this is why we will not vote for this bill."
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:22 PM
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18. Saw that
So he was partisan for saying bush left him with a 1.2 trillion dollar debt package?

Bush left him with a 1.2 trillion dollar stinky pile of shit. Keep it up cable boys, because the next step is to tie McCain, Graham, Boehner, and every god damn republican to that stinky pile of shit.


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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:23 PM
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19. This was supposed to be camera free but, I believe, the WH said bring them in so
I believe Obama wanted this message out there.

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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:34 PM
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29. I think he is getting sick of the "cable chatter" as he puts it with no invite to dems
for a response!
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:23 PM
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20. I like Gergen
but that's a very Gergen-esque comment, and not in the good way, lol. I remember during Obama's overseas trip in July, he thought it was a horrible thing that Obama released a STATEMENT on it.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:28 PM
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Half an hour in, he's trying to be Good Gergen again
Still thinks the bill will come out of the Senate tomorrow. Trying to be positive. He did lead off with Bad, Beltway Gergen, though.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 11:09 PM
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35. He and the rest are trying to tap dance and keep their jobs

I'm sick of all of them.

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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:22 AM
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40. Just remember, if you are ever faced with beltway Gergen in real life, use flattery.
He and Anderson Cooper are ashamed of their own egos and totally mush up if you flatter them.
I know this from watching waaaayyyy too much campaign season cable "news".
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:08 AM
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50. yeah
and for his credit, he has made fun of the House Republicans when they start crying that "Nancy Pelosi is being mean to us" and mocked "Oh, poor babies." I like him, but when he does say something I disagree with, it's something um ,I REALLY disagree with him on, heh.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:40 PM
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30. When Gergen isn't playing the pundit he sneaks up on small children

and scares the life out of them.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:24 PM
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22. fucking idiot
The majority of the pugs that remain are vermin. You don't "play nice" with them. You crush them. Nothing partisan about it; just eliminate the morons from ever influencing US policy again.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:28 PM
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24. what did he say about the GOP Senators today? nt
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:28 PM
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25. Thats disappointing because Gergen in my opinion is the best one on CNN
Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 10:29 PM by Thrill
I think he is worrying too much.

And as Schumer said today. Its time to stop worrying about the Republicans feelings
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 11:19 PM
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36. Gergen is by far one of the best on CNN but he is a worrier
Obama needed to lay down the law to these f*ckers.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:30 PM
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26. F--- him!!!!!!!!!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:32 PM
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27. If gergen never mentioned bush's
sociopathic personality then he doesn't get to talk about Obama being "partisan".

Mr Try To Get Along With EveryBODY.
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:33 PM
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28. Was this on CNN?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:44 PM
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32. Obama was simply responding to the Partisanship of GOP.
I did not think he was Partisan enough. The GOP have set themselves
up as OPPOSITION PARTY.

It is beginning to look like the Media think Democrats should
bend over, roll over and enact the CONTINUING GOP Drive over the
Cliff Policy.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:46 PM
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33. bwahahahahaaaa i like gergen but he's waaay wrong here.
david, this man has been nothing but bipartisan and your party has shit on his hand
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 10:57 PM
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34. Of course McConnell and Boehner are not partisan.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 11:20 PM
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37. I'm glad AC360 is giving providing a lot of coverage of the speech though. nm
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 11:36 PM
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39. um, he was speaking to the Democratic caucus
did Gergen ever demand Bush be bipartisan when conferring with Tom Delay?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:44 AM
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41. Gergen is old guard...he is inconsequential these daze....he is a .....a ....POS
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:31 AM
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42. Too bad...he won & his win was a mandate.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:43 AM
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43. Gergen is one of the few honorable, decent, courageous and incorruptible Republicans
Lest we forget, that's a VERY short list. Kevin Phillips is another. I'm having a hard time coming up with another example.

Gergen doesn't play games. He looks like the Mama Bear in the old Warner Brothers cartoons, and he serves the same function in his party: keeping the hotheads at bay.

Gergen gives a damn. He actually cares. He's not full of himself like virtually every other pundit, whose egos are gargantuan; he actually sees himself as someone who's been given a bit of an unofficial public trust, and he holds himself to high standards.

Whether he's correct or not here is another matter. My first instinct was that he was spot on, but upon reflection, the way to deal with bullies is to stand up to them. Republicans are testing Obama, and perhaps he's wiser to be firm and a bit in their faces. He was hardly a dick about it, after all.

Still, the important thing is winning. If this unravels into some endless morass with a watered-down bill and more sacrificing of liberal policies like the lame-ass bailing on contraception, then maybe we should reassess.

More than anything else, we don't know what's REALLY going on. Gergen doesn't either, but he sure as hell knows a hell of a lot more than the rest of us. If there's some more-serious-than-expected bad blood between certain Republicans and the Dems, this kind of thing may just exacerbate it.

Nonetheless, Gergen is to be trusted, and he's constructive; unlike some of the other reckless partisans, he recognizes the danger and he wants this country to pull out of this dive.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:53 AM
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44. Correction: he identifies himself as an independent
Makes a lot of sense, actually.

I was mistaken due to his having been instrumental in so many Republican administrations.
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:07 AM
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45. Gergen was licking Obama's buttcrack on Inauguration Day
if I recall.
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southern_dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:14 AM
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47. Obama bent over backwards
to reach out to the GOP. They bit his hand. Screw them!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:03 AM
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49. Check the vote totals from 11/04, Dave; people WANT PARTISAN.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:37 AM
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51. good f***ing Lord these guys are off the rails...
...er, he was speaking at a DEMOCRATIC House retreat. As in, a bunch of Democrats. His, you know, political party? The party he belongs to. The party that needs some pumping up, some rah-rah. And he gave it to them.

As good as his speech was, it was milder than I would have liked. I'm ready for slash and burn politics. Burn, baby, burn.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:48 AM
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52. How many olive branches has Obama extended...
that got thrown right back in his face? Just exactly how long should he take their abuse and turn the other cheek?

Screw the pukes. 2010 can't get here soon enough. We can weed out some more of the assholes.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:53 AM
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53. Your concern is noted, David. Now STFU.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:55 AM
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54. Bullshit. It was truth that he spoke, not partisanship.
Screw Gergen.
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