Pat Buchanan's essay about race is on David Duke's Website.

[aaaaaa5a]

He strikes again!








Here is a link to an essay he wrote about black America. I kid you not, it is actually posted on David Dukes Website.

Here's the link.

http://www.davidduke.com/general/he-is-angrybuchanan-to-obama-on-race_7628.html#more-7628



For those who don't wish to visit a hate site, here are some highlights.


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First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ‘ 60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.


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Barack talks about new ‘ladders of opportunity’ for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown , and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for ‘deserving’ white kids.? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white America ’s fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?


------------------------------snip------------------------------------------------------------

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.





Yes, this man REALLY DOES have a prominent role as a featured commentator on MSNBC.

[BlooInBloo]

1. Poor, poor downtrodded white folks.

[aaaaaa5a]

2. I want to make it clear that I don't favor censorship...

but is MSNBC even aware that one of their primary commentators is actually the lead story and (tonight at least) the primary author for Storm-front and David Duke's website?

[BlooInBloo]

4. Censorship is a governmental notion.

EDIT: And *everybody* knows that Buchanan is a second-to-none bigot.

[hfojvt]

9. not exactly what he said

More like "black people can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps." Pretty much the same thing Republicans tell poor people of any race.

[BlooInBloo]

21. (facepalm)

Thanks for identifying yourself, at least.

[hfojvt]

31. identifying myself as what?

That's already on my card, Wile E. Coyote, genius

or, as Calvin said

Calvin: I am a genius, but I am misunderstood.
Hobbes: What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin: Nobody believes I'm a genius.

[cbc5g]

42. Obama said the same thing so I don't know what you are bitching about

[Monk06]

14. I want reparations. I'm a crippled white guy from Fresno with a shitty website it's my turn

[EFerrari]

3. Of course it is. He's a horrible, disgusting racist.

I've emailed every venue that continues to employ him. He's the face of American racism dressed up as your baggy uncle.

[MisterP]

5. Germany was having trouble/ What a sad, sad story/ Needed a new leader to restore/ Its former glory

notice he looks a lot like Joe Arpaio? it's like they all come out of some village in upland Paraguay

[crimsonblue]

6. I agree with Pat.

Yeah, we enslaved people and brought them to our country against their will, forced them to work 16 hours days with no pay, no rights to marry, no parental rights, and no hope for their future, but elected a Black guy so that means we were never racist. Is that a pretty accurate summation of what Uncle Pat said?

[hfojvt]

7. no that's not even close

You are a long way from a rebuttal.

[crimsonblue]

8. i was being sarcastic

I forgot that people on DU don't recognize it without flashing smilies.

[hfojvt]

10. I certainly recognized "I agree with Pat" as sarcasm

and the "He said something really stupid like this" as sarcasm too, but presumably you do believe that he said something stupid. The question is, why?

It just would be nice if more DUers were like Rachel Maddow, willing to debate Pat rather than just calling him a doody head.

[crimsonblue]

11. Is there really need for discussion about the racism of Pat?

I thought there was a consensus on that.

[hfojvt]

16. isn't that what discussion board do? Discuss things.

As to one of the snipped paragraphs

"First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American."

Per capita GDP in America is $45,700. 39 out of 53 countries in Africa have a per capita GDP of less than $3000. Only 6 of those countries have a per capita GDP of over $10,000 with the richest at $16,000 or so. Of course, nobody I know is making as much as the per capita GDP, but 43% of black households are making more than $34,738. (compared to 60% for the whole country).

Then, there are presumably some other advantages to living in America, such as free speech, elections and the ability to run for office, jury trials, Miranda rights, etc., etc. The history of how they got here is not at all cool, but isn't he right that they are now much better off in this country now than in a place like Kenya or Tanzania?

[carpe diem]

20. the data and stats re GDP and all the rest are irrelevant...`

the issue is that Pat Buchannon is a racial arsonist. He and his friends in the White supremacist movement are not having a 'discussion'. The are throwing fire bombs in the form of hate speech. It's not like Pat doesn't know how to hold a grudge. He's still mad that Lincoln won the Civil War and that there was a Civil Rights movement. He actually recalled fondly on the air once about a that period when he was a child and you rarely saw Black people. I guess just when they were allowed to come in and clean up and were out of sight and out of mind the rest of the time.

Buchannon liked the 'good ole days' of Black subservience and kneeling and groveling before the master. Any Black man like Wright who doesn't spend his time thanking the white man for slavery and saving us from the jungles, he wants to put in his place and 'remind' him how grateful he should be to the great white man.

This country was built on the blood and bodies of African slaves for almost 300 years and we as a people have don't owe any groveling or gratitude to the slave masters or or their decendents.

It's not a discussion about stats and figures.

[hfojvt]

29. so facts and statistics are irrelevant

and since you believe Buchanan is not having a discussion, it's okay for you to also not have a discussion and just throw epithets at him, like 'racial arsonist'.

There are certainly some southerners upset still about the civil war, and probably still upset about the civil rights movement. The fact that Buchanan is one of them, does not refute any arguments that he made in this column though. It doesn't look good to me, if my side cannot answer a rightwing column with more than name calling.

Of course, I am one of 'them', a bad guy, a troll or troll symp, because I don't immediately join in the name calling and epithet throwing.

A couple of things I would answer you with. First, this country was not built on the blood and bodies of slaves, not entirely. White people were doing some work too, especially in places like Connecticut, New York, Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin, etc., places where my ancestors were. Second, not every white person is a descendant of slave owners. I have one ancestor who died in Andersonville prison, and another who returned from the war disabled, and also minus one of his brothers. A nephew of my great-great-grandfather also died in Andersonville and one of his sons died in the war, fighting for the north. More distant relatives include Ulysses Grant and Old John Brown and hundreds of members of the GAR.

Finally, it is not about grovelling or gratitude. It's about seeing the big picture, seeing the ways that the glass is more than half full, especially for the 43% who are relatively well off. That, while there are some things to hate about this country, especially in the distant past, that there are also some things to love.

[carpe diem]

34. you don't have to give me a run down of your family history...

i didn't give you one of mine...go right ahead if you feel the need to defend the views of Pat Buchanan...if you can say this country was NOT built on the bodies and blood of slaves with a straight face, you're probably closer to being on his side than mine and we really have nothing to discuss...

[hfojvt]

39. I don't have to do anything

but the run-down does provide a rebuttal to this notion that white Americans are "descendants of slave owners".

I don't feel the need to defend Pat Buchanan because unfortunately the DUers here don't feel the need to provide a solid rebuttal. As far as "this country being built on the bodies and blood of slaves." First of all, I just happened on some stats that said less than 30% of southern white families in 1860 owned slaves. Presumably those 70% of southern whites were also helping to build this country.

Secondly "this country" includes places like Maine, Vermont, New York, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Kansas, Nebraska, Utah, Oregon, Montana, etc. Those places were built up without very much slave labor.

Thirdly, the war over the slavery question from 1861-65 cost this country a lot in lives lost and property damaged.

So I think there is a decent argument to be made that shows that "this country was built on the bodies and blood of slaves" is an over-simplification. Saying that I am on Pat's side is not much of a rebuttal either, especially since Pat probably didn't vote for Jesse Jackson in the 1988 Democratic primary.

The business of not discussing seems bad to me. It seems to involve slapping a label on people and then writing them off as permanent enemies. Whereas I would be trying to find common ground with any enemy and trying to persuade them with facts and logic.

[Raineyb]

45. Big picture?

This is a load of crap! Pat Buchanan is under the impression that black people ought to be grovelling to the descendants of the people who brought our ancestors to this hemisphere in the first place. And as per usual he is waxing nostalgic about the days when a black man wouldn't dare speak to him, a white man, as an equal much less with the derision he so rightly deserves

Why the hell should I even consider Buchanan's "statistics"? Because living here being oppressed is better than being oppressed in Africa? Did it not occur to you that maybe Africa would have ended up with the opportunities that you tout we have in this country if the continent wasn't raped of their people via slave trading and needlessly divided via European colonialism?

I think you severely overestimate the benefits of the white man's arrival on the African continent with your assumptions. You certainly don't give Africans any bloody credit for having been able to develop their own continent without the help of the oh-so-helpful white man showing up on their shores.

This argument does not deserve serious consideration. It is straight bullshit which belongs in the dung heap with the rest of the crap that man peddles.

Regards

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

48. "does not refute the arguments (Buchanan) made..."

Buchanan's arguments are along the line of "Hitler was the best friends the Jews ever had. Thanks to him they now have the Holocaust Museum and the sovereign nation of Israel."

It's so blatantly stupid and racist he doesn't need refutation.

[firedupdem]

28. Debate Pat? By calling him "uncle pat" and grinning at him?

I've never seen a debate between them.

[hfojvt]

30. I think I have seen some

but I can only remember them debating about stupid stuff like 'whether Sarah Palin was good for the McCain ticket'. I am gonna miss her show when I dump cable TV soon.

[Number23]

36. What in God's name is there to "debate?"

The man has just published a screed saying that white folks in America have bent over backwards to help black folks, as evidenced by welfare and low income housing. And that the institution of American slavery lead black Americans to a grand old life, well... the ones that survived that is. What in the world do you find worthy of "debate?"

I don't know about you but I'd rather live in a mud hut on my own terms with the folks and the community I love than get tossed in chains, have the living FLESH ripped off my body by beatings, be denied even basic education including the ability to read, be torn away from my family, denied the right to practice a religion of my choosing, and work 16 hours a day of back-breaking work for some slob and his f*cking family to live off of my labor. And that's just during slavery, there is not enough time and space on this board to discuss what happened to black folk in the U.S. AFTER slavery "ended."

[hfojvt]

37. perhaps if we only talked about the last 50 years instead of 1851 or 1792

or 1645. The fact of NOW is that the majority of blacks in America are much better off than the majority of blacks in Africa. Better off economically and better off politically and better off educationally, etc. Do you admit that that is true? It seems true to me, and that was one of Buchanan's points.

What is there to debate? That depends if you want to debate at all. He wrote a column that said some things. To you they are obviously ridiculous, and perhaps they are not so obviously ridiculous to me because I am an ignorant idiot. Your assignment, should you choose to accept this mission impossible is to educate the people on the margin who think Buchanan might have a point or two.

It should be child's play to write an essay thoroughly refuting his steaming pile of dreck. Here is what it would look like.

Buchanan: X is true, and because of X -> (therefore) Y
Counterpoint: X is not true (insert facts, statistics, or some time of anecdotal evidence or logic (such as you did with slavery, except that was beside the point in this case because the argument was not that African Americans were better off than Africans from 1605-1865, but that they have been better off since 1950, and they are clearly much better off now), or alternatively
concede that X is true, but demonstrate that it does not lead to Y.

This is what looks bad to me, although popular with the gang.

Buchanan: X is true, and because of X -> Y
NC - Buchanan is such a racist a$$hat, one other time he said this ...
SMA - I agree with Buchanan (sarcasm) Z is totally true.

This example is kinda weak, starting as it does with the typical ad hominem attack on Buchanan and also not having an actual article in the link to "all the crap American society does to us"
http://aaopinion.blogspot.com/2008/03/notorious-racist-ranter-pat-buchanan.html

[pot luck]

38. Who wants to debate a racist?

I won’t change his mind, and he sure as hell won’t change mine.

[hfojvt]

40. you never know whose mind might be changed

I, for example, once voted for Reagan, then I did more studying and reading and watched him fumble around in a debate, watched a powerful speech by Jesse Jackson in 1984 and four years later was a registered Democrat along with my parents who switched parties. Arianna Huffington and David Brock were once on the other side. Not racists, but certainly Republicans, and were persuaded to change their affiliations.

Besides that, debating is good mental exercise. Kinda like a verbal or logical sudoku.

[Number23]

43. Pat's point is not only that blacks are better of here than in Africa

Pat's point is that the only reason for this is because of the benevolent goodness of white people. That black strength, intelligence, ingenuity and resilience had absolutely nothing to do with it. It's only because of good white folks that we have it so good. His ignorance of history and basic common sense is astounding and not worthy of debate.

It was white people (the Brits, the Spaniards, the French etc.) who decimated Africa's resources and culture. And not to say that Africans have not played a large role in the current state of that continent, but there is no denying the horrible consequence of colonialism on Africa. To deny that is foolish and completely dishonest.

And to only want to look at the last "50 years or so" of black life in America according to you is part of the problem and does not come close to addressing what needs to be addressed.

[noiretextatique]

53. there is a substantial portion of black americans living in poverty

so to argue that they are better off than africans (one the continents raped and pillaged by imperialists nations) is racist bullshit. a more accurate comparison would be to compare blacks in america to other people IN AMERICA. pat buchannan is a racist jackass.

[hfojvt]

12. It's a syndicated column Buchanan wrote on 22 Mar 2008

after Obama's speech on race. Apparently David Duke bought the right to reprint it.

[jbnow]

13. Pat wrote that column, "A Brief For Whitey", last March after Obama's

speech on race. Here it is on Real Clear Politics site.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/post_24.html

I am not going to Duke's site to see if he just took an excerpt from the original column and left out some of the gems like his essential reaction to the speech

It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as Nixon put it, "everybody but the rioters themselves."

and the ending line

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.

After that column I turned off MSMBC any time Pat came on. I sent the column to the shows that always had him as a guest with the strong suggestion that he should not be a "political analyst" in amy election involving a minority candidate.

I did more in April though when I turned on MSNBC on Saturday morning to hear Buchanan ending a screeching rant about Obama's "bittergate" comment and saying that Obama better stay out of the woods when he returned to Pennsylvania because there were a lot of deer rifles there...

Then I wrote to the president and VP of NBC as well as the shows with the exact time of Pat's comment and the quote (they don't have transcripts for daytime) and I included a link to that race column but also another of his March columns about Obama and Wright that included a rifle reference...

They didn't care.

[aaaaaa5a]

15. Thank you for your activism

and your info regarding the story. There are several websites I check every day. And tonight this essay is on the home page of David Duke's website. It's also created a real good buzz over at Stormfront.


I would love for RM or KO to pick up on it and run something on it. If a prominent FOX commentator was the "lead story" on David Duke's website.... he would certainly be a candidate for "WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!"

[Baikonour]

17. Ugh!

"were introduced to Christian salvation..."

:puke:

I LOATHE THIS FUCKING MAN.

[aaaaaa5a]

26. You are right!

This phrase.... "were introduced to Christian salvation..." is stunning!


I am FAR FROM AN RELIGIOUS EXPERT, (and with good reason) but wasn't Christianity founded in Africa? (Ethiopia I believe)

[dsc]

18. If you supported the sexist musings of Matthews and others on that network

then you can't complain about Buchanan now. That is what happens when bigotry is allowed to go unaddressed, it gets worse.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

47. is it my jaundiced eye, or do threads calling out media sexism tend to sink?

I tend to think so, but I'm aware I lack objectivity.....

Anyway, as you say, leaving misinformation and lies unaddressed allows them to grow, just as the rw wants it.

(I'm glad Bill is speaking up publicly to correct the economy lie. OT, I know, but the principle is there.)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. At Least They Both Are Momentarily Distracted From Their War On The Jews

~

[treestar]

22. Oh those lucky Africans, without being enslaved they could not have found

Christian salvation! :sarcasm:

[Enthusiast]

25. Yup. You gots it!

Before slavery every African black that died went straight to hell to be punished for all eternity. God is good. :sarcasm:

[NOLALady]

44. They also would not have found

Brother Jim Crow.

[CitizenPatriot]

23. Pat

"Christian salvation?" SO, what if I decide that The Right Religion is Wiccan, and I kidnap you and take you away from your family so you can work in servitude (meanwhile leaving the village you're from to fend for itself with no males....so that it falls into disarray, with no food, no clean water....and never recovers. that means your family suffers.) and be SAVED! Woo hoo!

YOU ARE NOW A WICCAN AND YOU'D BETTER SAY THANK YOU.

"Nowhere has done more..." Have you been to Europe? Have you seen the difference there in the way black people are treated as compared to here? For that matter, the difference in the way people are treated in general? How about some free health care? By the way, the programs you mentioned were not invented for nor are they the sole propriety of black people. Honestly, these arguments are extremely flimsy. If you have better reasons why black people should be glad they are American, please present them. I can think of a few places I would have gone, but your arguments are too broad in their reach and neglect the truth re the history of black people in our country.

It is always easy, as someone who never lost what the Africans lost when we stole them, to act as if "reparations" have been made. Perhaps the truth is, and you should know this as a religious man, that some reparations can not be made. It is not possible. That is why we must struggle so hard to do the right thing in the first place.

Some injustices, I am afraid, can not be made right.

That doesn't mean people can't and don't move on...they do.

"Is it white America's fault..." This question makes me wonder about your supposed religious beliefs, Pat. It sounds angry. Are you angry about something? It sounds like you are angry because you feel unfairly blamed for the plight of african americans. It sounds like you feel like white children should be getting the same help you claim black children are getting.

On the face of it, I can see why you would feel that all children should be getting such help. That could be a legit argument. Sadly, I think you want to erase the past and the damage inflicted beneath the surface. The damage to self-esteem. Things that can't be fixed with some food stamps. And this, I fear, makes you angry. You don't want to be responsible for the sins of your fathers.

I wonder if it ever occurred to you that the burdens you carry as one who is responsible for the sins of his fathers are much less than the burdens of one whose fathers were the victims of your fathers.

I know you think Rev Wright should be grateful....But, Pat, I think you should be grateful. I think you should be on your knees every night, thanking god that you were born white so that you never had your family torn apart, your dignity stolen, your health and personhood dismissed, your opportunity owned, your life deemed worth only what you produced. I think you should be grateful that you CAN NOT EVEN IMAGINE the horror, because I know if you could, you would never be capable of being this insensitive.

I think if you had a good talking with your god, he would remind you that you can't stand in judgment of another. That you have much to be grateful for, that you can't assume that your blessings are another's and that the real question you should be asking is, "Have I done enough?" and "How can I help?"

Imagine if you reached into your heart, Pat, and chose to give up your pre-judgment. What if you chose to GIVE for a day instead of judge. Listen for a day. See and feel for a day.

I'll bet you would be a better man for it.

I leave you with this, Pat: But for the grace of God, therego I.

Please pray on that and let the fear and anger go.

[Honeycombe8]

24. When did he write it? nt

[LeftishBrit]

27. Has there ever been any doubt that he's a vile racist?

I became aware of him in the context of his defending LePen in the run-up to the 2002 French election:

www.theamericancause.org/pattruefascists.htm (This article comes with a health warning!)

He rants about immigrants, blacks, Jews, gays, etc.

Just because someone is against the war, doesn't mean he's a respectable person overall.

[JimGinPA]

32. You Do Know That One Of Buchanan's Close Relatives Died At Auschwitz Don't You?

He fell out of one of the guard towers.



:rofl:

[MellowDem]

33. Don't see anything racist...

from the comments you posted. Doesn't mean Pat isn't a racist, but you can't tell just from what you posted. He sure comes across as insensitive, and he definitely recycles some old arguments with no real bearing of history. But, he also states some truisms about race in our society, none of which will be discussed by society at large, because there is no such thing as discussing race in this country. If you discuss race, you're an extremist and a racist.

Perhaps the biggest offense Pat commits with these comments is not showing an understanding or empathy with black Americans. You can't just assume that everyone will be thinking in terms of a post-racial society because that's the way it should be. It comes across as stupidly idealistic and somewhat unrealistic. Very disconnected from the experience of black Americans in this society.

He does shine some light on how whites (and poor whites especially) view certain concepts of race today. And these are comments we should take heed on, because these are things that need to be understood just as much as black's experiences with race if we are to ever enter a post-racial society. And we need to focus on the new generation's take on it. From what I've seen, the new generation thinks their parents are idiots when it comes to race, and their views are much more post-racial and cynical of the idea of race, despite being brought up in a society that tries to foist race upon them as though it was a real biological way to divide the human species. Or something that should be their primary source of identity. Or that race and culture are one and the same (I still see this all the time, and it is quite damaging indeed).

[bertman]

49. MellowDem, you're certainly right with your point about the discussion of race in our

society. What I find is that when you disagree with someone who perceives him/herself to be racially sensitive then you are labeled a racist. It's just a visceral, gut reaction to someone finding fault with their argument. Very sad.

One thing that Buchanan, the racist fuck, fails to say is that those "gains" that black Americans made were the result of laws that were literally forced upon the society at large at gunpoint and by government intervention in the form of the Civil Rights Act. And that was only after years of some of the worst inhuman treatment ever committed by so-called Christians upon other fellow so-called Christians. (or maybe not, there are certainly lots of other examples of the Christian-on-Christian inhumanity that might rival that, but I digress)

What I find most disturbing about the whole race discussion in America is the way many of us fall back on "what happened way back in the past" and can't see what is transpiring before our eyes. Until President Obama was elected, there was very little for black Americans to point to, despite the gains they have made, that said that they had become an accepted part of the American family. Now there is a new feeling among white Americans as well as black Americans, that we have attained a worthy goal. Not that we have reached the point that we aspire to, but that we have broken a huge barrier.

The Buchanans of the world just cannot accept that black Americans still have a legitimate beef with their country about how they have been treated. I find this to be a simple manifestation of cultural/racial ego. They just cannot accept that there are still injustices to be undone and wrongs to be righted. It's too much of a burden for them to imagine that there is still work to be done to make the healing complete.

On the other side are the black Americans who are still locked in to the idea that America just wants to keep them down. These are the same people who lump all Americans together as oppressors and descendants of slave-holders. Not long ago on an Atlanta black talk radio show I heard one black man say that the answer to the race problem in America is for "every original man to take the head of two white men." Once that deed had been accomplished, he felt that would settle the score. I wasn't so surprised by that statement, but I was a bit non-plused when the host said something like "right on, brother, I hear what you're saying." Not exactly a bridge to crossing the racial divide.

Your comments about the new generations' views on race being so different from the old ones seem quite true to me. And that is a very good sign for our nation.

One unfortunate and divisive trait that we humans tend to inherit (maybe it's genetic) is our desire to hang out with our own kind. Not just white with white, or black with black, or hispanic with hispanic, but all the other categories we put ourselves in: Democrat, Republican, Christian, Pagan, Italian, Irish, Somali, Mexican, educated, ignorant, athlete, intellectual, artist, etc. etc. Of course, it's all about comfort level and shared experiences and what we feel secure with. Maybe one day we'll all make an effort to reach out individually and in groups to those around us who are from a different heritage than ours.

[Raineyb]

56. You think the goal has been attained? n/t

:crazy:

Regards

[Raineyb]

51. Then you're either blind, stupid, or racist

Although either of the first two wouldn't negate the third.

[noiretextatique]

55. the entire article is racist

it isn't meant to provoke discussion, except among those who agree with him. why don't people understand this basic concept: if you want to have a discussion about race, perhaps you shouldn't start it with blatantly racist statements, which tend to piss people off.

[Number23]

35. 2/7/2009

Sweet Jesus I just KNEW this had to be written in the early to mid-70s. Wow.... I am literally at a loss for words...

And the fact that David Duke, the old unabashed white supremacist himself thought it was so up to his standards that he put it front and center on his web site speaks volumes. I'm just astounded and fairly floored by this...

[Behind the Aegis]

41. Poor, poor, Pat.

One should feel sorry for him. If only he could have found a way to disguise his bigotry, then the left (of center) could post his 'musings' at "progressive" sites, like DU and feel good about the rantings of a malcontent. OH...OH...wait...maybe, they could call him a "broken clock" and declare how he is "right twice a day." Well, damn, that already happens...right here, at DU.

It is true, a broken clock is correct twice a day; but without a reliable timepiece, how would one ever know when that broken clock was correct? For some, it only matters if they think the 'broken clock' is at the "right time" as they define it, and damn all other time-keeping mechanisms.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

46. I wonder what Rachel will think of Uncle Pat now.

He's the Rick Warren of MSNBC.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

50. When I read this in February

I was completely amazed that MSNBC did nothing about it. He is still on there 30 times a day. Rachel Maddow of all people have him on her show. Keith Olbermann goes after Fixed news commentators every night, including a statement by John Gibson a few months ago in which he said we need to make more white babies. Keith had a field day with that. The hypocritical nature of Keith and Rachel regarding Pat Buchannan is astounding and they should both be ashamed of themselves. MSNBC needs to fire Buchannan today.

[noiretextatique]

52. fuck you, you racist asshole

that's the best thing i can say about this jackass.

[Lavender Brown]

54. It is amazing how many people share these views in real life

People like Pat Buchanan only encourage them to bring their bullshit out into the open instead of being ashamed of it. I'm arguing with one on another site at the moment. They're totally blind to how bigoted they are. :argh:

[Zomby Woof]

57. Pat is a Nazi, he has always been a Nazi

This is nothing new for anyone aware of him since his Nixon days. Back in the Reagan era, I knew what he was all about when, in his columns, he fondly referred to apartheid South Africa as "The Boer Republic". :puke:

[olegramps]

58. What is important to me is just what was his intent.

Is he quoting statistics that are solely designed to disparage all Blacks? I believe that he is using this tactic to appeal to the Republican racists.

The same type of criticism could be made about the poor Southern Whites of Appalachia and the Ozarks who are major receivers of financial aid with the same dismal school drop out and crime rates. The fact is that the strong hold of the Republican Party consists of the Dixie states that receive more federal assistance than what the contribute.

I don't believe that he has any intention of seeking solutions to the problems, but rather to exacerbate it since it reinforces his WASP mentality and is politically advantageous. It is analogous to the Republicans use of the abortion issue. If they actually sought its abolition they would be deprived of one of their major wedge issues. They love having scapegoats to justify their greed.