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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:59 PM
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Democrats- you own the economy now
It's your responsibility.

Kowtow to Republicans if you like- but just remember- come 2010- and 2012 the nation will hold you accountable for the results (whether deserved or not).
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 05:19 PM
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1. How incredibly realistic, accurate, wise, and proactive your advice is.
Do you suppose anyone in Congress knows?

It would seem they should, but I seriously question their intelligence at this point, unless they're playing dumb waiting for the right moment to spring something huge on the World.

(I'm not holding my breath...I keep hoping Reid is going to locate his gonads in the shower some morning, but so far...nada.) :eyes:
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 05:58 PM
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3. You know that warehouse full of "dry powder" that they've been accumulating all those years when...
...they were doing jack shit? ;)

Tesha

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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 05:19 PM
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2. Hear Hear
When the stimulus bill goes to conference, cuts need to be laid firmly at the feet of who is proposing them - Republicans. In fact letters should be sent to the people whose job is affected, detailing the name and phone number of the senator who proposed it.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 06:03 PM
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6. Yes, but
Sure, the 'Pugs proposed the cut, but the Dems, with those large majorities in the House and the Senate, and Obama in the White House, look like they're going to go ahead and make them into law. So whose fault is that, the 'Pug for proposing the cut, or the Dems for going along with it because they seem to have this strange inability to fight for what's right in this world?

I say that we're being bipartisanly screwed on this one. Once more, the two party/same corporate master is going to drive us all into the ground.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 08:51 PM
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12. And at the feet of right wing democrats!
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 06:02 PM
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4. FAIL
It is the Bush recession now, and it will be so in 2010.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 06:02 PM
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5. Negative. When responsibilities are delineated back to the same ole tired republican
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 06:03 PM by bridgit
tax cuts for 'the people who pay taxes', then overlaid atop the faces that injected them into Obama's package like sugar into a gas tank causing it sputter, diesel & Cha-boogety; Pow! along; republicans will be seen for the clueless, misguided vandals that they have always been
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 06:06 PM
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7. Bulloney..I direct you to Howard Zinn..
"What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something. If we remember those times and places –and there are so many – where people have behaved magnificently, it energizes us to act, and raises at least the possibility of sending this spinning top of a world in a different direction. And if we do act, in however small a way, we don’t have to wait for some grand utopian future. The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory." – Howard Zinn
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 06:12 PM
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8. Obviously we need to hang this economy around
the GOP's necks every step of the way. Do NOT let them lay any of the blame for this mess at the feet of democrats and the Obama administration!

After all, that is what they would be doing to us.
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Numba6 Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 06:21 PM
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9. Shrub's final year present to the US: losing 3.6 million jobs
The worst losses in 25 years:

* National unemployment rose to 7.6 percent
* 3.6 million jobs had been lost since the recession began in December 2007
* 600,000 jobs lost in January alone

& the obstructionism that started last fall with the crisis?

American Jobs Held Hostage... by Republicans

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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 06:43 PM
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10. Republicans vote no
"if you like- but just remember- come 2010- and 2012 the nation will hold you accountable for the results (whether deserved or not)."

Just saying.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:08 PM
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13. Too young and naive
Democrats own the economy now. That's just how it is.

Repubicans are the "opposition" party.

And they'll take advantage.

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Synicus Maximus Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 07:11 PM
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11. I Agree
We have had congress for two years but have done little on the economy with it. And if something is not done in the next two years I don't think the nation is going to buy the "well the Republicans started it" line.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:20 PM
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14. Fine with me, cuz it's coming back with a vengence.
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 10:21 PM by InAbLuEsTaTe
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:23 PM
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15. spot fuckin on.
that's how the brand game now is played -- we are in power -- the field is ours -- and so is all in it's view.

the public will know ONLY one thing -- have we put more people back to work, are the schools in better shape -- are jobs returning to the U.S. -- that is what we will be judged on and quickly.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:28 PM
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16. Don't worry, the Repukes are more nervous about this than Obama. That is why
they're trying to hinder Obama's success. Read this: $1.3 trillion later, economic disaster; supporters of Bush's tax cuts call the stimulus "too big."

Now, what are the chances that the Dems' stimulus package will equal Bush's tax cuts and other idiotic Repub policies in nearly doubling the unemployment rate, increasing the number of people living in poverty by five million, tripling the the foreclosure rates and increasing the number of people relying on food stamps by 13 million?

Bush and his tax cuts were miserable failures, and the Repubs own the resulting economic disaster. Under Bush, the economy effectively bottomed out, and while it will likely get worse (see yesterday's abysmal jobs report) before it gets better, things will begin to turn around. Repubs dread the notion that this will happen during Obama's Presidency.








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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:32 PM
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17. People know who crashed the economy
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 10:34 PM by Juche
People know who it was who ignored the middle class, deregulated the banks, focused only on the rich and blocked any attempt to fix the economy. Many voters are stupid, but not all of them are.

I believe that no matter what happens that the public will not vote in the GOP in 2010 or 2012 for that matter.

At least I hope not. But 56 million thought Palin was qualified to be one melanoma away from president. So I could be wrong.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:52 PM
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18. The problem is NOT the Republicans. The Concessions aren't really for them
Its the Conservative Democrats that are the problem. Guys like Ben Nelson and Evan Bayh. These guys are the problem. We can't get them on board with the real Agenda. Obama and Reid would of forced a filibuster. But there would of actually been 6-7 Democrats voting against the bill. Which would of been a complete embarrassment for Obama
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