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Impedimentus Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:18 PM
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Obama should fire this Paulson clone Geithner and replace him with Krugman!

This tax dodger and Paulson clone is Obama's biggest mistake. He is nothing but a big bank, big business, Wall Street toady that doesn't give a damn about the average American. His testimony today about how the government should stay out of managing the bandit banks, including the ones that continue to outsource thousands of American jobs, while acting as an apologist for his corporate buddies is disgraceful. His lip service about transparency and accountability was so shallow a flea could wade through it. Geithner is far from irreplaceable, his ilk are a dime a dozen on wall street.

President Obama, please get rid of this tax dodging, Paulson clone, this disaster, and bring in a Paul Krugman.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:19 PM
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1. *sigh*


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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:23 PM
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15. ...
Your response sums up my feelings exactly.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:24 PM
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17. They don't even try these days
I've noticed a lot of people noticing Krugman is very much admired on DU, then the seeds of discord are attempted to be sewn regarding Krugman.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:54 PM
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20. .
Well Krugman was a popular topic of discussion during the primaries.

I guess this is the one last acceptable way of beating that dead horse for the people who just cannot let it go.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:22 PM
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2. I dont like Geithner either, but Krugman is not the answer to everything.
He's a smart guy but I don't think he deserves the high pedestool people have put him on. He isn't perfect.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:16 PM
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11. He doesn't *want* the job...
...doesn't think he'd be good at the job, he turned down an Assistant Secretaryship under Clinton. He's on record as not even wanting to run his department as chair.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:24 PM
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:30 PM
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4. The guy hasn't had much of a chance to do anything yet.
He's been on the job how many days now?

No one is perfect.

I trust President Obama until he proves to me he isn't trustworthy. He knows what needs to be done, and he's getting people who can make it happen. I don't agree with all of Obama's decisions, but I can accept most, and I'll wait and see what develops down the road that may explain some of his decisions a little better.

I like Krugman a lot, and I could see him in this position, but there's probably a good reason why he's not.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:32 PM
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5. Nice try....your sig line is an epic failure. n/t
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 05:47 PM by firedupdem
Awww...you changed it, what happened don't think bush is doing the best he can anymore?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:50 PM
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6. Hahaha! What did I miss? And a Hoover quote now?
:wtf:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:43 AM
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39. It said...
president george w bush doing the best he can for america day after day.

WTF?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:58 PM
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7. I disagree. Listening to Geitner today in his speech and taking questions from Senators
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 06:00 PM by Thrill
He seems sincere and unwilling to be reckless with taxpayer money. He appears to want to do this right. Not do what will satisfy Wall Street. He wants to make sure he makes the right move.

Just seeing how the thieves reacted today tells you all you need to know. Its no hand out to them. Which is a good thing for taxpayers
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Impedimentus Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:07 PM
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10. I sincerely hope you're correct ...
and that I'm wrong. I got much different impression from his testimony.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:00 PM
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8. I'd rather Reich, but Geithner is big picture, and all have input.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:02 PM
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9. Deleted message
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 06:05 PM by MadBadger
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freemarketer6 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:16 PM
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12. I agree 100%. I listened to every word of his testimony. This
is not a position Obama can replace without repercussions. If the market takes out its November lows and the S&P drops to 600, I think Geithner may resign. I don't know the specifics of his tax problems, but I do know that he was moving force in the sub-prime loans. I wonder if the market will drop every time he speaks.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:06 PM
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freemarketer6 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:58 PM
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24. Negative. Rich fat cats? The market is hardly composed of only
rich fat cats. 45% of the people are in the stock market. Geithner is horrible. What's a freeper?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:54 PM
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32. Hey, this one kicks back!
:rofl:

OK, my turn....:evilgrin:
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:05 PM
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33. Hey, freemarketer6. A word please.
Ahem.

Now, you may not be familiar with DU, you might find some of us "quirky".

You might be generally supportive of democratic policies and Democrats, or you might have become a member only to "disrupt" the board.

Four things might lead members here to suspect your motives, and these include your low post count and your user name, "freemarketer6", which could suggest that you do not generally support government regulation of businesses, social programs, or other progressive policies and programs.

Also, your profile is hidden and you haven't donated to DU.

So, if you are here to stir shit, you'll be gone very soon, and your posts will be deleted.

But, if you're not here to disrupt and stir shit, great, but expect some grief and watch your ass, and welcome to DU.

That's it.



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freemarketer6 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:09 PM
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34. I'll donate next donation event............I'm supportive of Democrats. I
don't view Geithner as a real Democrat, more of a DINO.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:38 PM
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35. Fair enough.
Not Obama's best pick...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:18 PM
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13. LOL, it's not going to happen. Krugman is not a team player.
:shrug:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:22 PM
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14. And if pigs could fly we'd all carry umbrellas
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 06:22 PM by WeDidIt
No way does Krugman make it onto this team. He's a prima dona.
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:23 PM
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16. I don't know what the hell Obama thinks he's doing with Geithner
I truly don't.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:27 PM
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18. Or better yet Nouriel Roubini!
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 06:28 PM by Better Believe It
Geithner is proposing rather vague half-hearted measures that won't get the job done.

Nationalize the big banks that are in trouble for starters!

And I'm sure that Roubini would welcome Krugman's ideas and advice.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:37 PM
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19. We need Krugman on the outside. nt
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:07 PM
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22. Krugman has all ready said he doesn't have the temperment or desire for it. Get over it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:19 PM
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23. Krugman has already said he does not want the job, nor does he have the temperament for it.
Christ, DUers love Krugman like a fat kid loves cake.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:59 PM
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25. Whoa. Youse two think alike
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:08 PM
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26. Krugman's not right for the job- but obviously- neither is Gaithner
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 09:08 PM by depakid
and Summers ought to be as far away from this as possible.

His involvement in the mess that he and Rubin helped to create smacks of Harvard patronage.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:14 PM
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27. Krugman is a brilliant economist
But, he is human. I fear that his Nobel Prize has gone to his head (which is pretty understandable).

Given his obvious political preference during the primaries, I suspect that (1) he has never been considered to be a member of the Obama team, and, (2) he will continue to write (prolifically) because, after all, "he did win utmost acknowledgement of his academic endeavors". It's as if he has suddenly been given permission to let the world know what he thinks.

Problem is, as I see it, is that he is using his name to promote one point of view in respect to the economics of our nation. And, I am definitely not convinced that he has no ulterior motive in pushing his theories.

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scrappydo Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:14 PM
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28. Since when did you all become economist?
Easy to criticize - not so easy to fix the mess Bush created. Glad some of you are such astute economist that you can make judgments so readly.
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:47 PM
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29. True that Geithner was
president of the Fed, but if he were so lovey dovey with Wall Street as you insist, he would have designed his plan to suit Wall Street. Instead Wall Street hated it. The reaction was loud and clear.

Details was not the reason. Wall Street and the pig bankers don't want to be accountable. They just want to grab the money and run like they got away with under the Paulson scam.

So your likening Geithner to Paulson makes no sense.
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asphalt.jungle Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:53 PM
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31. exactly
the guy can't win. paulson or any right winger would never have done what geithner did today. the Washington Post’s Stephen Pearlstein was right on his assessment about how wall st will never be happy unless you give them all the money and take away all their problems.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/29127154#29127154
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:40 PM
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36. Yes. Geithner did the right thing today and still gets no love from anyone.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:01 AM
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37. G is a
liability, imho....

after President Obama talked up the announcement, G gave no details and hedged his answers....

<http://norris.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/bailout-v-20/#comments>
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:50 PM
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30. Let's see. Krugman is a Nobel Prize winner in Economics and a
Progressive, but now that he differs from Obama, his prize has gone to his head. Obama has chosen poorly for Treasury and for Chief of Staff. And that means PERIOD!
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:09 AM
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38. If Obama was a real man he'd fire the entire government and replace it with Krugman.
We need more KRUGMAN!!
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:20 AM
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40. agree get rid of this guy
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