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fishguy Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:30 AM
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Lieberman is the man
who should just go away!

http://www.postgazette.com/election/20040108joelieb0108p3.asp

Does anyone else think he is the most annoying Democratic candidate?
Or is that too obvious a question?

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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:32 AM
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1. I didn't know
Joe was a Democrat...
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Soul On Ice Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 11:08 AM
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11. Please read post 10.
Please recall he actually did something in the 1960's. Would you have been a freedom rider? Really? Do you know what that meant and still means to us?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:39 AM
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:42 AM
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3. I've never been able
to figure out why Gore chose him. I remember saying to myself "What are you thinking?" back when Gore announced Lieberman as his running mate. Didn't like him then...don't like him now.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:48 AM
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6. To offset the "Clinton factor"
The right wing's biggest weapon in the 2000 campaign was trying to tie Al Gore to Bill Clinton's Penis. Ridiculous, of course, but remember that 70% of the population now believes Saddam Hussein flew his personal lear jet into the WTC.

Enter Joe Lieberman, the first "Democrat" to condemn Clinton for getting his dick sucked. Somebody apparently thought this was the best strategic way of removing Clinton from the campaign. Problem is that also prevented Gore from running on the Clinton/Gore record, which he had every right to do.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:57 AM
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8. Exactly what I was trying to say lol
But you did a better job.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:52 AM
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7. I think he was foisted upon Gore
Because Lieberman was the only Dem to prattle on about how appalling Clinton's "conduct" was. I think Lieberman was some boneheaded idea by the powers that be at the DNC to distance Gore from Clinton's Monica troubles. JMO
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Soul On Ice Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 11:05 AM
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10. Gore, Lieberman team awes Democrats
Embarking on a “miraculous journey,” vice presidential candidate Joseph Lieberman urged Americans Wednesday night to elect Al Gore to the White House, hailing him before the Democratic National Convention as a man of “vision and values” who would extend the nation’s current prosperity.

Of Republicans who are attempting to retake the White House, he said, simply, “They will squander it.” Lieberman spoke just minutes before a roll call of the states would nominate Gore as their presidential standard bearer and launch the ticket on its fall campaign against Republicans George W. Bush and Richard Cheney.

snip

Lieberman’s wife, Hadassah, introduced him to the delegates, then met him halfway across the podium. They kissed, twice, then stepped forward together to acknowledge the cheers. Strains of Chariots of Fire filled the hall.

snip

Democrats likened Gore’s selection of Lieberman to the election of Kennedy in 1960, the first Catholic to win the White House.



http://texnews.com/abilene2000/elec/team0817.html


FYI, Lieberman is too R/W for my tastes, but I would really like to see people here stop stating what you just did, blaming him for Gore's loss and stop referring to him as a republican. It is really beneath DU.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 11:52 AM
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13. I'm sorry, I just can't
I think he WAS a factor in Gore's "loss". I was absolutely shocked when he was picked. I remember hearing of Gore's short list and it was indeed impressive (I can't recall the names now). I remember just blowing off Joe thinking there would be no way, in an election that everyone predicted would be so close, that Gore and his handlers would be so stupid as to pick this whiner. Fine -- that was back in 2000. But he's still the same! Geez, at every opportunity he's attacking the candidates (mainly Dean, of course, but when Clark first entered and now that he's climbing, he goes after him). And I'm sorry, but his hawkish views are similar to those of this damn administration; I want an opposition candidate! BTW, New Republic can kiss my ass (I will be repeating this one all day).
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 12:07 PM
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15. there have been studies that show Lieberman was key to getting as close
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 12:11 PM by Bombtrack
as they did in Florida.

Almost all of the Nader votes were due to Clinton and Gore, not Lieberman, on the other hand Lieberman helped to innoculate greatly the Monica-factor for undecideds with Gore, and also, as I've read in several articles and in my Sophomore year PPI textbook(it was new that year) that Lieberman might have been the greatest reason that Gore got the highest percentages of black and jewish votes of any presidential candidate since LBJ

Also, many voters saw Lieberman as a brave choice as well, far greater a number than those who had any problem with the choice, and it flew in the face of the "poll-driven, not brave" characterizations of both he and Clinton that they had been heaving from the get go.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:46 AM
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4. At our county Dem mtg last night, Lieberman was the only one who
didn't have a rep speak for him in the "campaign" tlks leading up to our Feb. 3 primary.

The person who was supposed to speak for him was the Houe of Rep candidate who LOST the last election.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:48 AM
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5. Lieberman is the man....
Lieberman is a man???? I thought he was a frog.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 11:00 AM
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9. ya know...sometimes...I almost feel sorry for Joe....
..key word- ALMOST.....then I actually listen to him and go..."Aww Joe, you just blew it again"

He ought to know that its best sometimes to quit while you're ahead...

I hate to use the term "whiny", but its the most accurate I can think of for now...need coffee....

:donut:

Peace
DR
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iowapeacechief Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 11:49 AM
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12. We need him in the Senate.
Period.

I hope he drops out of the presidential race soon.
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Soul On Ice Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:22 PM
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16. Why do we need him in the Senate?
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 11:53 AM
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14. Lieberman is Pathetic
His attacks on Dean and Clark feel Rove-driven to me. Please go joe.
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