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Thu Feb-12-09 01:59 AM
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The GOP LOST their Asses in 08 due to: Arrogance and Deceit. Caught pissing on the Masses they paid |
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the price....loss of Power, loss of Face, Credibility, and Respect....all essential components to convincing the largest group of voters....that of a mixed group with a common interest....success in Leadership/results...
The GOP squandered a golden opportunity to form a long lasting term at the National Helm....
All they had to do was run the Country Fairly and Safely....and....
they had the audacity to piss on Middle America...including many who voted for them....and thought nothing would happen cept for more wealth in the bank.
And they wonder how to fool us even more....they even are trying the Moose Killer...not knowing the real odds ...they plod on...
The GOP is NEKKID.....Doomed to the Inconsequential and minority ....they will languish until able to con enough peeps to drink cool aid in droves once more...
NEVER PISS ON THE MIDDLE CLASS....they will get Pissed Off abd rebel.....
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Thu Feb-12-09 02:11 AM
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1. Remind me. Why are the Dems reaching across the aisle again? |
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If what you say is true, wouldn't the Dem courting of the evil, rejected Repubs kinda piss off the 'middle class?'
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Thu Feb-12-09 03:18 AM
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4. At the very least....some Dems are pissed ;o) |
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Thu Feb-12-09 02:16 AM
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They'll be back, don't doubt that for a minute. They still own the media. Corporatism is not going away any time soon.
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Thu Feb-12-09 03:20 AM
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5. You may be right but...Progressiveness can counter with numbers as in 08 |
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Thu Feb-12-09 04:32 AM
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We have a great asset in President Obama but is he enough to turn tough state battles? We forced a runoff in Georgia for the Senate on Election Day but in the rematch we got killed. People will come out for him, I don't know that they will come out in force for people he endorses. I don't think there will be anywhere near the amount of participation in the mid-terms as there were in this past general. The wave for President Obama is real and true, I just don't know that he has the coattails we'd hoped for.
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Thu Feb-12-09 09:16 AM
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10. Coat tails have a limited effect these days...or so it seems... |
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Thu Feb-12-09 01:26 PM
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13. No, they won't. Not if 2 things don't happen. If there are no investigations |
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into the bush** admin AND if he fudges on his promise to withdraw from Iraq.
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Thu Feb-12-09 02:55 AM
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3. the public turned on Reganomics |
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The public has turned on Reaganomics and the religious right and massively rejected those. Those are the only two cards the Republicans have.
Why would Democrats - nationally and at all levels, including right here - want to breathe new life into those ideas, or act as though the Democratic party does not have a massive historically significant mandate to dismantle Reaganism. That is the great mystery of our age.
One would think from the way many talk here that it were the political Left that the public had just rejected. Very odd.
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Thu Feb-12-09 03:23 AM
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6. The Pubs have the money...but not the brains....to make up for lack of answers and leadership, they |
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go for deceit and BS...it worked for many years...until the evidence of Bush showed up...he was over the top in Losership...
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Thu Feb-12-09 03:49 AM
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7. they have plenty enough brains |
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In many ways, they are considerably smarter than the Democrats. At least they know who they work for and what the battle is about.
They have answers, and they have leadership. We don't see the leadership - we think it was Bush - and we are in denial about their answers and agenda, which we think is about a "philosophy" or an "ideology" rather than a raw naked grab for loot and power. What they do seems stupid and incompetent - especially to the more upscale and gentrified among us who dominate modern liberalism and the party, and who share all of the premises and assumptions about power and economics with the Republicans (which is what politics is about) - only when you ignore what they are actually trying to do.
Bush wasn't in charge of the administration. He was, as is often the case with CEOs of corporations, merely a front man, a carnival barker. One of the reasons that the Bush administration was so successful - and they were wildly successful in achieving the goals of their sponsors and clients - was because the opposition, if you can call it that, was so out to lunch when it came to understanding what they were doing.
The Bush administration just about destroyed *our* America, but they greatly enhanced and improved the other America - the America of the wealthy and powerful few. They stole everything that wasn't nailed down to line their pockets, coded police state measures into law, and gutted the public infrastructure. That wasn't a mistake, nor incompetence, that is what they set out to do.
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Thu Feb-12-09 09:13 AM
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9. Well, for all their brains....they did badly for 2 running elections and they seem NEKKID :o) |
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Thu Feb-12-09 01:07 PM
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12. they are far from dead |
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The mystery is how they ever win any elections, since they are working against the best interests of the general public. But they have massive resources and much determination. They are far from dead now, and are exerting a tremendous amount of influence on the Democratic politicians and on people's thinking.
This is an opportunity to starting fighting back against them, it does not yet represent a victory over them. It would be difficult to drive them from power even if we were trying, which we for the moist part are not.
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Thu Feb-12-09 05:17 PM
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17. This is the Party that does not wish Peace.....now that the World situation is such that either |
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we go for Peace or we rely on destiny as we have been
The World hungers for PEACE
Now is the time to stomp on the GOP who is the de facto War Party...they even had a War president who flaunted his cod piece on the Lincoln.
Granted the GOP still remains a force to reckon with but the People Power is wearing them down....them GOP guys got caught pissing on America ...and the Peeps are ISSED
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Thu Feb-12-09 06:01 PM
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The people of the world hunger for justice and freedom from tyranny and want. Peace that leaves people oppressed by the "free market" is not peace, it is submission.
People power has been co-opted and is in danger of being thwarted by "centrism" and compromise in the Democratic party, and it is the people who are being worn down by that, not the right wingers. The right wingers are being given a reprieve and a new lease on life if we are not careful. There is absolutely no reason for the Democratic party to not fight for the people now - no practical reason, no partisan political reason, no moral reason.
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Thu Feb-12-09 06:19 PM
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22. The real Reasons for Peace are now fast emerging...we have Global Problems |
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Thu Feb-12-09 09:18 AM
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11. Americans have shorter memories than Mayflies have lives. |
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Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 09:19 AM by WinkyDink
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Thu Feb-12-09 01:29 PM
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we shall see, I can speak for 60% but not the 40% that the republicans are catering to.
40% do have short attention span and memory, we shall see.
My guess is, that is what the Republicna party are banking on that Americans have short attention span, this is so laughable its not even funny.
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Thu Feb-12-09 03:34 PM
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15. You'll notice Kerry didn't win in a landslide. |
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Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 03:36 PM by WinkyDink
Now ask them about "Iran-Contra". Or just "Contra". Or, hey--maybe the "big issue" during Jimmy Carter's time of the ownership of the Panama Canal.
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Thu Feb-12-09 04:37 PM
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16. The problem there was that the media actually made North into a hero |
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and made the Contras at least neutral - ignoring that they were guilty of really bad things. The fact that cocaine was allowed into the country is still not common knowledge, is not mentioned in any text book explanation of Iran/Contra that I have seen - even though the CIA conceded that in the 1990s.
In 2004, Reagan died and for most of June 2004 - the media nearly deified him. Had Kerry tried to explain his work there as a major accomplishment - he would have been rejected by many not wanting to know the truth. (When you think that he did all that and most of his BCCI work as a first term Senator - it is even more amazing.)
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Thu Feb-12-09 05:20 PM
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18. Denigration is a fave tool used by the GOP and their media friends |
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Thu Feb-12-09 05:31 PM
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19. GOP is blithely ignoring that thing called MANDATE, which we got in a BIG way. |
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Remember when those assholes tried to say that Bush got a mandate in 2000 and 2004?? Well.. when you are beat with a big can of whoop ass, like the GOP was in November, that is a mandate. But the GOP are running around like little ants in a elephant herd trying to assert themselves as IF they have any power. They don't. For some reason the Dems are trying to be polite by not pointing out that they had their asses handed to them, and they don't deserve the deference they're receiving. A few more bonehead moves, like Gregg's, and the MANDATE word is going to start showing up on the Sunday shows. The Dems will only play nice for so long, if the GOP keeps acting like they are in charge, and is if Limbaugh is still relevant, then they will find out what it feels like to be the minority party. Fuck 'em.
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Thu Feb-12-09 05:57 PM
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20. Yup...ya said it right....the poor GOP...awestruck by delusion....they run around thinking they |
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still rule....
Are they infected with anal cysts on their brains??
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