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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:27 PM
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Did Gregg (w/ the GOP) intentionally accept and withdraw to undermine Obama and make him look bad?
I would not count it out from the GOP. It is becoming more and more apparent, the Republicans do not give a give a F about bi-partisanship or about the Obama administration.

They are all united to try to bring down Obama and undermine this country at the same time for their own political ambitions. I don't buy the BS that Gregg does not support or know enough about the Stimulus. He knew what Obama wanted out of the stimulus when he took the position.

I smell a GOP ploy.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:28 PM
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1. No tin foil hat this time
Gregg didn't get to keep the census that he wanted so bad.

Plus he's got an aide that's up to his eyeballs in corruption.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:37 PM
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11. It's time to expose that aide publicly BIG time.
And fast.

God, I hope that Rahm is on top of this.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:28 PM
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2. It just proves once again that their screams about bipartisanship
is nothing but pure bullshit.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:32 PM
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8. This is the most important aspect. Regardless of the differences, Obama is willing to work with the
other side of the aisle. The pukes, clearly are not.

This should get enough publicity that there will be some serious digging done to get to the bottom of it. Regardless of the real motivation, it is now crystal clear that the pukes have no desire or care for working with Obama and the Dem's. They have lost grasp on one of the few remaining frayed ends of the rope they are dangling from over the cliff of oblivion.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:28 PM
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3. No
It makes him look weak as hell. (Judd-head)

He is going to lose his seat come '10.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:28 PM
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4. Maybe, but Gregg is the one who looks bad
after all he accepted the nomination long after the stimulus had been proposed and was in the works. Gregg looks like a flip flopper or someone with skeletons in his closet.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:30 PM
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5. yep
cant see how it hurts obama, he was trying to be bipartisan and they backstabbed him.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:32 PM
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Obama has tried time and time again.
All but a few Rethugs are cooperating in any form (Lahood, Snowe, Collins, Specter).
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:30 PM
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6. I agree. It just proves the Pubs don't want bipartisanship at all!
Most Americans have already seen that!
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 05:01 PM
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33. Absolutely. And it wreaks of something more than stimulus & census.
Goody.
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brianna69 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:31 PM
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7. Thank goodness he is gone
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:32 PM
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9. If they did..they blew it. 'Cause, guess what?
It makes Obama look good and stupid look bad. "Stimulus bill" my :kick:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:13 PM
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39. doesn't this remind you of McCain's rushing back to DC to "solve" the economic crisis?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 07:21 PM
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42. Oh yeah..grandstanding
stupidity.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:32 PM
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10. I doubt it
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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:38 PM
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12. This makes HIM and the GOP look bad, because well, they are
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:40 PM
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13. I think he saw the writing on the wall
He was taking a load of shit from the fascists -- I mean conservatives -- no, I mean fascists -- for not voting against the stimulus.

He probably started to realize that the fascists weren't going to let him be bipartisan. They were going to force his hand to be an obstructionist in the cabinet. That would be a very uncomfortable position for him to be in.
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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:41 PM
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14. make him look bad. obama's press office didnt even know. nt
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 04:41 PM by Cash_thatswhatiwant
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:43 PM
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15. No he no doubt wanted the job. But I believe its when they took the Census
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 04:43 PM by Thrill
from him he got pissed. And they probably were pissed when he would not FOR the Stimulus Bill. Its was a stupid appointment anyway. I don't know what the hell he was thinking picking him
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:44 PM
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16. Obama took away his Census responsibility- I'd withdraw also- The Census is a main
function of Commerce if he can't be trusted with it he should not be Commerce Secretary.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:44 PM
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17. Josh Marshall reports Gregg withdrew because he was getting too much shit from his Repug colleagues.
Late Update: Hearing maybe that this might not be about Census or Stimulus but maybe Gregg not being able to hack the deluge of crap he was getting from what's left of the New Hampshire GOP.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 05:02 PM
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34. Ohhhhh, so he's a pussy. That sounds about right.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:44 PM
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18. No. Obama told him to.
Obama told him to, which is only best for all - obviously.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:46 PM
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19. good riddance
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 04:51 PM by ErinBerin84
This was a pick that I didn't like...just wasn't right for the job. I guess Rachel was right..."Republicans...they are just not that into you."


And the media people are already being assholes about this. Gregg didn't think that maybe he wouldn't be a good match for a Democratic administration? Bad choice by Obama, but this makes Gregg look weak as hell. I bet that the reports were right, he just couldn't hack the flack. Oh well. Let's get a good one this time.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:47 PM
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20. Good riddance to Gregg
I don't care why. Even ignoring the guy's world view limitations, that sweetheart deal from the Governor on promising to appoint a Repuke was Blagojevicharific.
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skeewee08 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:47 PM
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21. I think it makes him and the rethugs look bad, Obama would of have 3 of them in his Cabinet
This shows Obama as trying to reach out to the other side, I am glad that he is gone, wish he would of picked a Democrat from the beginning.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:47 PM
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22. I'd say, YES
Teh White House PRess office was surprised.

Gregg just pulled a fast one.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:49 PM
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24. MSNBC's First Read wonders...
"Did Gregg only discover now that Obama is a Democrat?"

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/02/12/1792622.aspx
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:48 PM
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23. It makes GREGG look bad. . . . not the President..
He's just not up to the challenge of working FOR the American people. .
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:54 PM
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25. Judd Gregg isn't that smart.
Hell, he needs someone to find and install his battery packet every morning before he leaves the house. Unfortunately, when he's up speechifying that person is not there to remove it.

He was afraid his buddies at the club wouldn't talk to him any more.
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:54 PM
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26. It is very obvious that these Republicans do not want to work with
this administration what so ever! Since it is this obvious for God's sake why would this administration keep trying to work with them? I say if we can get away with it, ignoring them is the only way to go. Of course, that is after every Democrat and the President keep telling the people that the Republicans refuse to work with them and don't seem to want to get the country back in order. After a while it will sink in.
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newview88 Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:56 PM
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27. One word YES
The GOP is a despicable party of sore losers.
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freemarketer6 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:56 PM
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28. That's what I think too. However, it may reflect more on Obama
than would be normal because of the other cabinet picks that have proved unfortunate. I don't think the public will care about this too much, but I just wonder what the media will say. This starts the war in earnest though. Obama can no longer capitulate to Republicans on anything. I now fully believe Obama should not have yielded at all to Republicans on the stimulus package. He should have simply let them filibuster. I don't fully understand the census matter.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:58 PM
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29. Please explain how Someone who lobbied for a position
backs out without heads up.

Looks to me like Gregg was given a choice by someone outside of the Obama administration, and he caved.
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freemarketer6 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 05:10 PM
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35. Yeah, FC, that's what I said-- "...That's what I think too...". Who gave
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 05:13 PM by freemarketer6
him the ultimatum and why? That will be learned, maybe today.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:59 PM
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30. It doesn't reflect badly on Obama at all. It's the republicans
who have been exposed as hyper partisan fools,unable to see beyond their petty politics to work for the common good. Let people see them for what they really are.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 05:00 PM
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31. This is exactly what is crossing my mind. They're messing with the vetting system. n/t
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 05:00 PM
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32. It doesn't make Obama look bad, it makes Gregg look bad.
He refuses to put his party politics aside for the good of the country after Obama reached out to him and offered him a cabinet post, and he accepted. Now he drops out without giving notice to the President? He looks like a huge dick.

The Stimulus excuse is bullshit because he's known about it for weeks -- before Obama was inaugurated even. And who in the hell resigns because of the census? That's the lamest shit-excuse I've ever heard.

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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 05:57 PM
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36. maybe--but why did O nominate him in the 1st place? this 'bipartisan' nonsense is lose-lose
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:04 PM
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37. It is simple: Gregg is not trustworthy and not a man of his word as they say.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:09 PM
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38. That was my first thought!
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:15 PM
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40. I think Gregg looks bad, not Obama.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:20 PM
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41. No. I think he accepted because he thought he was going to be in charge of the census.
He thought that the Repugnants where going to get yet another crack at underestimating minority populations so that they could do a little more creative gerrymandering of the congressional districts. When they found out that Obama had out-smarted them and pulled the census out from under his control, the position no longer looked as appealing.

And now they can whine about how undemocratic the White House is because it wants to count all of the U.S. population and not just that in heavily conservative areas.
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