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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:42 AM
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Clyburn cleverly inserts 45 day limit for Govs to spend stimulus $ - will expose hypocritical Repubs
Congress to governors: Use it or lose it

A devilishly clever last-minute insert to the House version of the stimulus bill has made it through the conference report -- a requirement that governors spend their stimulus allocations within 45 days.

The provision isn't likely to have a real-world impact, but it forces Republican governors who opposed the stimulus (e.g. South Carolina's Mark Sanford) and many other GOP governors who sat on the fence for fear of bucking their party -- to publicly accept or decline the aid.

And when they do accept it -- and it's hard to see a scenario where they wouldn't given their deficits -- Democrats get to call them craven or hypocritical or both.

In the unlikely event they do reject the money, authority for spending the cash would revert to State legislatures, who would likely be under even more political pressure to spend it than chief executives.

The genesis of the provision: House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn's war with Sanford over the stimulus.

"Our governor has repeatedly expressed political and philosophical aversion to using federal assistance as we work our way out of the economic conditions that are visiting significant difficulties upon businesses and families throughout our beloved state," Clyburn said after the House vote.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0209/Congress_to_governors_Use_it_or_lose_it.html
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:44 AM
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1. very smart...i would never survive. i can't play chess either!
:shrug:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:46 AM
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2. I love it! Walk the talk, or sink your state!
It's a win/win/win for the Dems!
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:53 AM
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3. They won't have a problem taking the money
Repubs never have a problem spending money. They just like to complain about it in a sanctimonious manner. They have no honor and no shame.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:55 AM
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4. I will K&R despite some people's erroneous insistence that Politico is not a good info source.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:03 AM
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5. And if only we had a MS MEDIA to trumpet it all.



Keith ..Rachel ..you out there ?
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Numba6 Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:37 AM
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6. Clyburn is helping Obama for 2012 to set up Sanford if he runs for Prez
You can bet your bottom dollar the GOP candidate will come from the ranks of the GOP govs in 2012, IMHO -- definitely no one who's now in DC
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:46 AM
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7. Ah! Good point. The nutters have been gabbing about Sanford for 2012.
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 11:46 AM by rvablue
So this is an excellent strategy.

If the Gov. does take the money and decides to run, how can he bitch about it later.

And if the Gov. doesn't take the money and decides to run, and the plan works, but SC is one of the few states that continues to tank and/or stagnate, he won't be able to bitch about it either, but he also won't be able to take zero credit in any of it.

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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:51 AM
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8. Gov. Tongue-tied??
I thought his career was over when he stammered for a full minute to come up with a Repub talking point. Anyone have the YouTube link on that?
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:05 PM
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19. You mean this idiot???
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:00 PM
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9. Brilliant.
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 12:01 PM by harun
A sh*t or get off the pot clause.

Plenty of Blue states (who need the money) will be glad to take their share if they refuse it.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:03 PM
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10. Great..... n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:50 PM
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11. A real stroke of genius since Republicans never turn down money. nt
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:36 PM
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12. I love it when the Dems engage in good strategery! n/t
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:53 PM
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13. This could be a double-edged sword.
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 01:55 PM by 4lbs
My father used to work for the government at a Naval Air Repair Facility (NARF) during the 1980s megaexpansion of defense spending under the Reagan Administration.

He told me that with that increase in defense spending, the NARF got millions of dollars more than it needed. However, budgetary wrinkles required them to spend all that money or else lose it in next year's budget. So, if the NARF got $100 million and only spent $75 million, next time it would only get $75 million, because some D.C. bean counter determined that was all they needed.

In any case, with this "forced" spending, they wound up spending it inefficiently just to make sure they didn't lose funds the next time.

On perfectly good planes and helicopters, they would literally have workers perform work that had already been done weeks before and not needed for another year. For example, hydraulics or coverings that were serviced, were serviced again.

In addition, the NARF ended up buying more equipment than was necessary or would ever be needed for the next 10 years. This extra equipment just wound up sitting in a warehouse for about 20 years before it was 'trashed' due to obsolesence.

So, the 45-day spending limit is good, as long as they make sure that these Governors actually spend the money on job-creating projects that can start "right now".
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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:05 PM
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16. that's true, but i think they simply need allocate spending, not actually spend it
i could be wrong though
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:16 PM
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17. Yeah. Then make sure they allocate the money for the truly shovel-ready projects than can get
started within a month.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:14 PM
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14. Brilliant .. I love it.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:01 PM
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15. "I was against the stimulus before I took the cash"
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:59 PM
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18. 45 days is the blink of an eye for government
I worked with New York State government and they wouldn't be able to procure a copy machine in that time.

In the past New York has actually had to return federal funds unspent because they weren't able to spend them in the year or two years timeframe they had to do it in.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:15 PM
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20. Jim Clyburn...
:yourock:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 12:19 AM
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21. Nice. k&r
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