You know, it's not hero worship. It's immense pride.

[Avalux]

I must say I'm puzzled by those who are criticizing and using the words "hero worship" to describe the feel good sentiments about President Obama and his family.

I've read a lot of the posts and have been thinking about it - what I actually feel I look at the sappy pics, watch video clips and see OUR president on TV. One word sums it up - Pride.

Let me explain....

For 8 long years we were abused and suffered at the hands of a dictatorial maniac and his political party. We were accused of being unpatriotic and told to shut up and sit down. We were lied to and dragged into an illegal war. A lot of us worked long and hard to elect Kerry in 2004; we were so sure the man sitting in the WH would not be 're-elected' for another 4 years. We were sorely mistaken.

With 2008 came a new hope - we had a chance to defeat the Republicans and get our man (or woman) elected. Some of us were behind Obama from the beginning, others eventually came around and once the primaries were over, we united behind our candidate and did everything we could to elect him. There were times, dismal times, since 2000 that I thought we'd never be able to defeat the Republican hate machine and they'd continue their assault on this country. But victory was ours - we handily defeated McCain and elected a young, charismatic and gifted man as President. A Democrat.

I can't help but feel proud of Obama and all Democrats; for overcoming the Republican hate machine and the media to succeed in 2008. I can't help but feel proud over the passage of the stimulus bill after only 3 weeks in office.
I can't help but feel proud to watch the Obama family make their way as the First Family. And yes, I really enjoy the photos.

There's nothing wrong with feeling this way. All Democrats deserve to gloat a little and beam with pride; we are responsible for electing a man of integrity and wisdom to lead this country out of the darkness of the past 8 years. Expectations are great and he needs our help if he is to be successful. I will continue to support Obama realizing he is human and may stumble along the way.


So be proud Democrats. It's OK. Really.

:patriot:

P.S. I won't be around to reply until later but I wanted to write this before I got side-tracked.

[AspenRose]

1. No apology or explanation should be required

If other people don't like it, they can take their indignation elsewhere and use the hide thread and ignore features.

[DrDan]

10. "if you don't like it here im 'merika, you can just leave . . . "

gosh - where have I heard that before . . .

[mkultra]

16. that was a long stretch to call someone a freeper

perhaps you should consider the differences between a country and a private discussion board.

[DrDan]

19. I called no one a freeper

there is little difference in the message, however.

[mkultra]

22. so are you saying he is or isnt?

someone here sounds like a freeper and it aint him.

[DrDan]

28. no - I am not saying either

and I am not the one here afraid of opposing views - "leave the forum", "ignore the posts"

that is simply juvenile.

[mkultra]

30. simple fact is its a democratic board

There is a limit to the level of opposition tolerated here and his statements are valid and justified while tacit implications of being a freeper are not.

[DrDan]

36. I made no such claim - do not put words in my mouth

I have been a member here since 2001 - I do not need an explanation from you as to proper behavior.

[DrDan]

39. and btw - how comfortable are you with

"If other people don't like it, they can take their indignation elsewhere"

Are you supportive of that statement? If one opposes his/her views, then they are not welcome in this thread? You agree with that? There is no room in this thread for opposing views? Is that where you want a democratic board to go?

[mkultra]

99. If you are upset by people who support the current democratic administration

then i am very comfortable with asking you to leave the board. try not to exaggerate my statement by twisting it into a directive to leave the country.

[AspenRose]

42. No. "Juvenile" is purposefully going on threads you know you disagree with

just to insult people and stir shit up.

If you have a point, fine. Discuss the merits or lack thereof, preferably without calling people names, accusing them of being freepers or alluding to their state of mental health. If you can't do that, then perhaps you should give yourself a break and avoid the thread and/or the poster(s). (But then you would miss out on aggravating those you disagree with, which I think is really the intent. Especially since it's the SAME PEOPLE posting the SAME TIRED insults. We KNOW where you stand, already.)

And I'm female.

[DrDan]

47. whatever -

enjoy your hero-worship thread.

Interesting that you claim to be liberal/progressive but want those with different points of view to leave the thread.

"If other people don't like it, they can take their indignation elsewhere". I believe those were your words.

[AspenRose]

48. Yes, those were my words. I said them. I don't take them back, either.

So stop fishing for an apology. I'm not giving one.

[treestar]

21. You don't have to leave America - just hide threads on DU

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

90. Now there's a concept! Works for me every time, although most opposing views don't bother me . . .

Just a few certain types here who post views simply intended to incite a flame war. True honest disagreements over politically sensitive issues is one of the main reasons to even have a discussion board. Hell, if this place was simply an "echo chamber" in which we all espoused the same thoughts, think how boring that would be.

Indeed, the most interesting posts - and I wish there were more - are those in which people who once held one view were convinced to take a different one, thanks in large part to the give and take of honest disagreement found on DU. In my own case - just to cite an example - while I've always been quite liberal on most issues, including support of gay rights, I can't honestly say I was always FULLY on board in support of gay marriage. While I certainly leaned in that direction, I still had some reservations that kept me from voicing my total support on that issue. However, after many years of reading the heart-wrenching stories of my gay brothers and sisters on this board, and how the insidious discriminatory policies of past administrations have detrimentally effected their lives, I am now 100% against any law that in any way seeks to ban, or otherwise refuse to recognize, gay marriages, which I now view as an absolute Constitutional right.

I'm thankful that most of us here can disagree without being disagreeable.

[jenmito]

24. Wow-you quoted something that nobody said but YOU!

:eyes:

[Laurab]

64. The fact that some of us are proud of our President

leads you to take the OP's post THAT much out of context? That's pretty scary. Your post isn't even close to what the OP was trying to say - perhaps you should freshen up your reading comprehsion skills?

[DrDan]

67. "If other people don't like it, they can take their indignation elsewhere"

that is what I was responding to. And you really think it was out of context? I agree one of us needs to refresh some reading skills.

And I have no problem if you are proud of our President. Please reread (once again, an apparent gap) and tell me where I EVER said that or implied ANYTHING even close.

[FlaGranny]

68. Nice job, taking

the words out of context. It WAS out of context - you didn't finish the quote - the part that illustrates what she meant - "and use the hide thread and ignore features." I'm not prone to "knee jerk" so I read that as "why piss on threads you know you don't like - ignore them." Of course, nobody can force you to not piss on other people's threads, and no one is saying you aren't completely free to do so, if being an irritant is what pleases you (and others who cannot resist reading threads they are annoyed by).

[DrDan]

70. that part of the quote I have no problem with - if you don't care for someone's message then

you are free not to listen.

That poster VERY clearly said "if you don't agree, leave". The sentence contains an "and" - separating two thoughts. I take issue with her first.

What I object to is for us (all of us, including myself) to criticize republicans/FR/etc for their comments and attitudes, and then repeat them once we are in power.

We cannot rail against the repubs for their threat of the nuclear option, then do exactly the same thing once we are threatened by a filibuster.
We cannot complain about FOX news's biased coverage, then blast MS/NBC when they offer both sides of an issue.
We cannot complain about the presidents refusal to recognize our presence in congress, then urge Obama to ignore the other party once he is elected.

We should attempt to never have to stoop to the boorish level of the neocons.

[mkultra]

100. all true but ignorant of the broader point

that being this is a private democratic board. You can hang around and criticize the president if you like but if im not mistaken, you could reach a threshold in which it would be considered reasonable to ask you to find a new place to criticize.

That being the base, it is not a much larger leap to say that if you are going to hammer people for liking the president, maybe you should take your show on down the road.

[AspenRose]

84. You got it.

That's exactly what I meant. And when I said "take it elsewhere" I meant leave the offending thread....and start your own.


Thank you for displaying excellent comprehension. :thumbsup:

[Laurab]

87. Your very first response to the OP took it so out of context

and as I read further down you just continued on. I allowed one post for a foolish argument, I certainly won't waste any more time with it. My reading skills are just fine, thank you, and I would never TELL anyone what to do, but I'd suggest that maybe you might want to post in threads where you actually have something to offer. Your ego and twisting of words were only trying to ruin this thread.

[zulchzulu]

2. I'll say it! I worship Obama like a hero... he's done very well so far

Since when are we not supposed to "worship" heroes?

Actually, "worship" is a little strong and is used as a negative. How about "admire Obama", "inspired by Obama", "happy with Obama", "optimistic about Obama", "hopeful about Obama"...

That's more like it.

People who use the term "worship" are only trying to buzzkill what this country has needed for decades.

[Avalux]

49. Yes he has.

I won't apologize for feeling good about it. I like your examples. :hi:

[sampsonblk]

3. We all have a responsibility to be rational

I think that's the complaint.

We are all proud. We are all excited. But we are not Republicans. We are supposed to think with our heads, even amidst our pride and excitement.

For years, I have heard GOPers claim Bush "held the country together." That is irrational, emotional nonsense. It doesn't reflect reality at all.

I am just praying that we don't go down that road. We still have to be smart, and see with our eyes instead of our hearts.

[Crooked Moon]

4. precisely (n/t)

[mkultra]

35. whether hero like levels of appreciation are rational is a mtter of opinion

clearly your confusing exuberance with recklessness. While these things may be congruent for you, such is not the case for all.

[sampsonblk]

94. No, you are confusing me with others

I am just pointing out the issue. I am not casting myself as the point man for either side.

I think we are all trying to avoid reckless exuberance.

If anyone's exuberance influences their views of facts or policy, one way or the other, that's reckless. The facts are the facts, regardless of how we feel about the people involved. Word.

[mkultra]

101. point taken, in response

I would assert that it might actually be nearly impossible to locate a human who's own exuberance does not paint his view either through trust or expectation. That being said, it simply boils down to whether people choose to EXPRESS their enthusiasm and how they express it.

I challenge that facts in this theater are almost entirely perspective. We should attempt to adhere as closely to fact as we can, but our abilities in that respect are more a function of genetics and style.

Essentially, your indicting those with a looser approach to data gathering than you in the hopes of influencing them to be more accurate. If i ever heard an ideological expectation, that my friend, would be it. :)

[PurityOfEssence]

61. A craving for simplicity

This thread is an attempt to deny that there are ANY people so lost in personality-cult fandom that they crush any dissent, mock anything short of lockstep swooning, and abjectly lay themselves at the feet of the champion in a reverential bliss.

This thread denies that ANYONE has gotten a bit ridiculous. All the true of heart stand shoulder to shoulder with this person in a fully rational worldview, and anyone who doesn't accept this 100%, absolutist perfection is just plain bent.

Somewhere in this person's crayola set, there's no grey. Things are stark and simple, and more important than anything is solidarity.

Viewing Obama as a hero is fine; to a great degree, he is. To define every action and move as perfect simply because of his sublime greatness is beyond dangerous, though. It also makes us look like idiots, and much as I don't lose much sleep about how the reactionaries view us, it's irritating as all hell when people go into ridiculous flights of superlatives and orgiastic bliss.

I live in the reality based world, where simplicity is treasured BECAUSE IT HARDLY EXISTS.

We are in perilous times, and the moves need to be clear, decisive and fast. Our greatest strength as pluralists is to make our voices heard and use our wealth of experience and analytic skills to divine what the correct course of action is. To the extreme personality-worshipers, that's crap; just follow the champion. His word is infallible. How DARE anyone question it.

Policy is what matters.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

77. yes, we do; at the same time, being rational doesn't require donning shit-colored glasses.

I'm Damned exuberant about our new PROFESSORDENT, because he is the kind of person I've always admired:

Brilliant.
Kind.
Far-seeing.
Stands up to bullies.
Ethical.
Walks his Talk.
Has actual accomplishments on his record--very impressive accomplishments.


Seeing what is truly excellent doesn't preclude seeing mistakes--I am heartened by his track record of thoughtfully considering criticism and course corrections.

This is the kind of person who deserves admiration, and we, the people have NEEDED to see a real-life example of it for a long time now. The real deal, not just characters in movies.

In our APPRECIATION of what is good here, in other words, our willingness to see and appreciate what's in front of us, we open ourselves to recognizing what is good, respectworthy so that we will continue to become more "fluent in the good". Which of course, also helps in recognizing and responding appropriately to the bad.

Also, he is a superb orator.

And, he's hawt ......

[Big Blue Marble]

5. I agree with you completely.

It feels so good to feel proud of my country and our leader.
The pride we feel is so legitimate. We are participating in
one of the great moments in our history. I am amazed and delighted.

[Avalux]

50. Maybe those of us who feel this way are optomists.

I always have been; even at times in my life that were horrible. :hi:

[Big Blue Marble]

76. Yes, I call myself a pragmatic optomist,

just like our President. :-)

[akbacchus_BC]

57. Ditto to that and here is a heart for you. n/t

[Big Blue Marble]

73. Thanks for that heart!

I really appreciate it

[rug]

6. Yeah but how do you explain this?

[Jackeens]

9. They're very cosy too.

Although I should have got a bigger size.

:hide:

[Doctor_Horrible]

11. omg I have a pair of those! They're awesome!!!! :)

[Jackeens]

12. This is when you really have to worry

And no, I didn't buy them - they were out of XXXXXXXL.

[Cha]

27. At least they're

made in the USA:fistbump:

[Avalux]

51. Oh ha ha!

Gotta chuckle at the entrepreneurs out there - an example of a job created? :rofl:

[damonm]

62. OMG, where do I get those?

Gotta get a pair for my freeper BiL.
It'll go nicely w/ the "Draft Gore" sticker I snuck on his car in '07...

[Hippo_Tron]

63. Not the first time somebody has tried to make a profit off of a political candidate

[ms liberty]

7. You've articulated my feelings very well here. Thanks! K&R n/t

[liberalmuse]

8. Well said.

I have not come across these accusatory posts here. My sense is that the DU community is made up of largely rational, albeit very passionate people who aren't going to start calling President Obama a "man of god" like 99% of the 'pubs I talked to since 2001 have referred to George W. Bush.

I see the past 8 years as someone trying to shove a shit sandwich down my throat. In comparison, the less then a month of the Obama Presidency is like being fed Ambrosia from an ornately carved golden spoon. I can still taste that shit sandwhich, but it's fading. Damn right I'm going to be ecstatic at the offerings of the new menu. That doesn't mean I'm going to bow down before the chef.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

78. :)

Heeeee!

What you said :7

:hi:

[NYC_SKP]

13. Hear, Hear! Proud to recommend this thread.

:patriot:

:kick:

[rvablue]

14. Haven't seen a single post saying "I worship Obama" just a couple criticizing people for doing so

and frankly let them. Meh....

Me? Well I'm enjoying the positive talk and the pictures, etc. because I still have to pinch myself from time to time to remind my subconscience that the reign of the Shrub is over.

I'm so happy and relieved that Obama is President. That I can type that and it isn't a hope or an aspiration or something we have to work towards, but a reality!


ed:typo

[Arugula Latte]

15. I'm 43 and I've never felt pride towards a president until now.

[Avalux]

52. Yep.

I'm 43 too - and I've never felt this way before either. :toast:

[saracat]

102. Wowe. I was proud of ALL our Democratic presidents, especially Clinton

who left us with peace and a surplus.

[mkultra]

17. IM proud and inspired by Obama

If you dont like it you can kiss my ass.

[Mz Pip]

18. And relief.

Everytime I see Obama or hear the words "President Obama" I give a huge sigh of relief. Thank goodness that it isn't McCain up there.

That's not hero worship. It's relief.

[AtomicKitten]

20. I no longer frantically search for the remote to change the channel when I hear "President ......"

[Seen the light]

23. If President Obama was overweight with a crooked nose, do you think these threads would still be pos

ted all the time?

I personally doubt it.

[Starry Messenger]

25. Why do you hate President Taft?

I'm just waiting for the right moment to release my collection of pics of America's cuddliest President.

[Avalux]

53. Why not?

Roosevelt wasn't exactly 'hot' but the people loved him. There's more to it than superficial.

[Jennicut]

83. Like Lincoln was hot? maybe in his own way but the man was skinny and too tall

with a funny nose. And people loved him and still do. And Lincoln was the first president to have tons and tons of pics taken of him. He wanted people to see what the President does, looks like, acts like. Obama is not perfect, he has big ears. But he is our President and I feel proud that he is ours. I felt ashamed when Bush was Prez.

[Cha]

26. Thank you,

Avalux (gotta get use to writing your new name) :)

My feeling is.. it's something they don't understand so they have to tag something derogatory on it.

Negatory..well screw that.

[Avalux]

54. You recognized me!

I wondered if I was giving up something changing my name - you? Didn't know who you were until I saw who you used to be (if that makes sense). :hug:

[applegrove]

29. It is a tool of the psychopath to label someone with some description they will not

like. Forcing them to reject the label and defend themselves. It is a tool of the psychopath called "labelling". The GOP turns pride at Obama's administration into "hero worship" forcing millions of Americans who don't see themselves as "worshippers" to explain themselves and perhaps change their relationship to Obama.

We should all talk about this psychopathic behaviour called "labelling" is what we should be all talking about. Why does the GOP machine need to use the tools of the psychopath against americans? Why do they want to manipulate the American public rather than win the public over with policy and leadership. Do they lack policy and leadership? Is that why they use the tools of the psychopath? Cause psychopaths are lacking in many ways so manipulation is how they cope. Why are Republicans so lacking in leadership and policy? Are they really just a product of class warfare that wants to see no taxes on the rich so they manipulate their followers and the American public to vote on "values" knowing that if they win on that they can reduce taxes on the rich. And because they have no economic policies that will work in this downturn and don't really care about the vast majority of Americans and don't have a credible leader all they can do is label all they have is a look through the toolkit of the psychopath to find some way to respond to the situation (Obama's popularity) and they find labelling, does this mean they are policy bankrupt?

Yes it does.

[ZombieHorde]

32. lol = funny.

[applegrove]

33. I don't think it is very funny. The GOP are a bunch of creeps and they are using

all the tools of creeps too. Makes me sick.

[ZombieHorde]

37. The first sentence in your post is super funny, so I thought you were joking.

You are calling yourself a psychopath.

[applegrove]

38. Nope.

[sniffa]

34. "Labelling" is a gateway to serial murder

[BlancheSplanchnik]

80. You're talking about Framing

Yes, and for too long, liberals and progressives have been bullied by manipulative pukes.

I don't like the nasty insulting posts being aimed at you, just because they can't read beyond the loaded word, "psychopath". Too bad they couldn't take in the meaning of what you were saying.(though the pics are hilarious in their own right)

That's ok, no need to don a mantle of negativity or climb into a trench with them.

The manipulation of language is something we all do, and has been done against wisdom and progress with exquisite nastyness by the reich wing. Have a look at RockridgeInstitute.org (no longer active, but still good articles. Here's an introduction to Framing: http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/projects/strategic/simple_framing.html )

[ZombieHorde]

31. "All Democrats deserve to gloat" - No, all Dems deserve a goat.

[salguine]

58. I own a goat. It's overrated.

[FrenchieCat]

40. I'm proud of my articulate charismatic intelligent insightful in command accomplished

first Black President ever.

The reason DU has ignore and hide a thread features are for just this reason.

Far as I'm concerned, those who don't want to read positive items or look at superficial pic threads with this President in them in this Democratic Forum, don't have to.

...and they certainly don't need to be whining like fucking babies about them.

[PretzelWarrior]

43. come on. I was in the trenches with you Frenchie.

You know that. I think you can have a reasonable dialogue with me on this considering all the positive vibes we shared even when his nomination was still up in the air.

[FrenchieCat]

44. I actually don't have a problem with you

but rather I did have some hesitance with some of the language and labels you utilized in that OP.

It's one thing to not want to read superficial threads, and I'm ok with that....
however, it is quite another to make other posters feel badly because they do.

[FrenchieCat]

45. accidental double post, and.....

Know that I still love you.

[akbacchus_BC]

59. Did I ever tell you that I love you for your insightful and logical

posts. Have another heart sweetie and lots of hugs. Wish there was a heart with best DUer Ever.

[Two Americas]

41. understood

That is great, no problem. You explained your feelings well, and I can't see anything wrong with what you said.

Just understand that those of us who are critical or who dissent are not the enemy, and don't demand the same emotional stance from everyone, and I don't think there will be any problems.

I do not think that very many people would ever be talking about "hero worship" were there not people demanding that we all feel, think and speak the same way about the President, and insisting that there is one and only one proper way to "support" or be "loyal" to the administration and the party.

Almost always, the opening salvo in the battles here is from a self-proclaimed "loyal" person, ridiculing and attacking anyone and everyone who gets off of the script they think we should all be following.

I would say a lot of complimentary and positive things about the administration, if that did not require "joining the team" that is hell bent on suppression of dissent. In this way, the hero worship actually diminishes the potential support for the administration and is a threat to the success of the new administration.

There is not only one way to "support" the administration. We do not "support" our friends and our children by merely praising them, and attacking anyone who brings any contrary news to us.

The critics and dissidents who are fighting and speaking out for the principles and ideals that we all share - and that transcend petty partisan and electoral concerns, and that are the very reason we support Democratic politicians in the first place - have a vital and essential role to play. Without them, the administration is less likely to succeed, not more likely.

[shellgame26]

66. Dissenting just for the sake of dissenting

seems kind of counterproductive to me. Why don't you wait until there is actually something to dissent. The man hasn't even been in office a month! And since that time he has passed Schip, signed an executive order to close Guantanamo, signed equal pay into law and for this we are accused of "hero-worship"?
Has it occurred to you that people's expression of joy might actually be a result of the man's actions which, by the way, are diametrically opposed to the actions of the previous administration?
And finally. DO you really believe that we are such lemmings that we are somehow incapable of dissenting?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

81. He repealed the Global Gag Rule too--that SAVES countless lives!!

How praiseworthy is that?

And he did it right in the face of insane Christofascists who see women as easy "collateral damage" in their war on the modern world--knowing they will react.

Says something for Mr Obama's strength of character!

Here's a video from Planned Parenthood on the real impact that foul rule had on the world.

http://www.ppaction.org/international/join.html?qp_source=gdispatche1ppol

[yellowdogintexas]

46. Pride Relief Joy ..I haven't stopped smiling since Nov 2. nt

[newview88]

55. Thank you for expressing into words what I could not.

Very well said.

[Avalux]

56. You're welcome -

and welcome to DU! :hi:

[akbacchus_BC]

60. K&R. Well am a "hero worshiper". I hope I don't get flamed, LOL. n/t

[shellgame26]

65. K (and frickin') R

I've been so sick of some of the downers lately. It's like they want to piss on other people's good feelings because they're miserable or something. SOME of them I KNOW FOR SURE are Pumas. They come out lurking when they think there are enough like them around then scurry away when they get called out. It's very hard for them to conceal their resentment.

[alteredstate]

69. Obama is my hero.

For two years I spent every bit of my spare time working to put our new President in the White House. I'm happy, I'm hopeful, and I'm proud. And it's great to have a hero.

[ClarkUSA]

71. So people who trashed Obama ad nauseum last year or got on board late frown on celebratory OPs now..

What a surprise. Not.

[rocktivity]

72. Obama's not the "hero," WE are.

I invested time and money in getting Barack Obama where he is. My investment is showing signs of paying off already. Why SHOULDN'T I feel good about that? What's wrong with having a political leader who's a proper role model for a change? Obama's not in the White House because he fell in through its roof, he's there because the majority of we the people threw a monkey wrench into the Rethug machine and voted him in. Obama did nothing "heroic," WE did. So making Obama a symbol of we the people is neither blind faith nor self-indulgence.

Damn right I'm harvesting the fruits of my eight years of hard labor against the Madness of King George. You're going to climb to the top of a mountain and totally ignore the view?

:headbang:
rocktivity

[BlancheSplanchnik]

82. a worthy addition to the thread!

it's HUGH!1!

[cwydro]

74. Well said.

K and R.

[Brazenly Liberal]

75. Well said! K&R nt

:hug:

[ginnyinWI]

79. kickin for pride and gratitude to Obama for making it to the WH. nt

[madfloridian]

85. No one at DU should ever be accused of "hero worship" or "drinking kool-aid"

I agree that most of us here are very proud of Obama.

But what you say should carry over to those of us who have posted about our own political "heroes", so to speak..those we respect.

I have often been insulted for posting about a man who helped lead our party to two wins nationally.

I should not be taunted when I post that it is a shame he was shoved off the national leadership scene.

So it should work in all cases. There should be no taunting at all of anyone, or it is not fair argument.

[madfloridian]

86. Nor should anyone here be asked not to question policies.

That would not be healthy for our country.

[Lorien]

91. Amen. Questioning policies and decisions is just that

unfortunately, many here see any questioning at all as an attack on Obama, and, by extension, an attack on them personally. The Freepers felt the exact same way about Bush; question him, and you were "with the terrorists". It works in a fascist dictatorship but not in a healthy and thoughtful democracy.

[madfloridian]

92. I have been called a cultist, a Dean worshipper, and worse...

And I think if one group wants to post about the candidate they are happy with....that is fine with me.

But permit me the same rights.

Don't bully me, attack me, and call me names because I feel one who was very responsible for our wins was kicked out of national leadership....and his name never mentioned by party leadership except in brief passing.

It takes two to have peace.

[Numba6]

88. The Obsession from the Uber-Progressives About Obama Supporters & Heroes plays

into the strategy of hate started last year,

as I went on at length in a reply to a similar post here if anyone's interested:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8201986&mesg_id=8203745

[madfloridian]

93. Who are the obsessing "uber-progressives"?

:shrug:

[Numba6]

95. You can usually tell them by their pedestal, as soon as anyone defends Obama or expresses joy in his

ONE MONTH IN OFFICE they snarkily snicker about "hero worship" and they immediately respond "stop bullying me, I can criticize any policies I want to, because I'm right, & that guy that beat all odds to become president is wrong."

[madfloridian]

104. Well, do you think it is right to bully those who question policies?

:shrug:

[Hellataz]

89. I'm all with the immense pride, i don't know what it is about him, but he always makes me smile

It's like his charisma jumps out of the tv screen and grabs ya! I always find myself smiling when he smiles or jokes at a press conference and am always so filled with hope and pride when he speaks, because i know he thought long and hard about his choices and he really believes in the thing she says and truly wants to help us...it's so overwhelming to have a president like that, one that has gotten so many non political people interest in politics and in helping their country. A President who is so cool, calm and put together, articulate and poised but at the same time so human and humble. After 8 years of "that other guy" I seriously don't understand any democrat who wouldn't be ecstatic with this man, despite him not doing everything they want. I don't follow him blindly but I'm willing to overlook mistakes and choices i might not agree with because in the end i believe this country will be the better. So If that's what you all call hero worship then sign me up.

[rocktivity]

97. DING DING DING! Hellataz, you're our grand prize winner!

...I don't know what it is about him, but he always makes me smile...After 8 years of "that other guy" I seriously don't understand any Democrat who wouldn't be ecstatic with this man, despite him not doing everything they want.

You smile because when you see Obama, you see a little piece of you and everyone else who dared to defy the Rethugs to put him in office--people like Andy Stephenson and Steve Colbert and Mike Malloy and Randi Rhodes and RawStory and Keith Olbermann. You smile because when you see Obama, you truly see "we the people"--which is, after all, what an American president is SUPPOSED make you see. And you wonder why there are those who want to send you on a "guilt trip" about it? Thought policing isn't enough for them--they want to emotion police, too!

:headbang:
rocktivity

[iamthebandfanman]

96. im not into pride

its often the downfall of any great man or ideal.


even the strongest, richest, and smartest person in the world is nothing without the ability to be humble.

[FrenchieCat]

98. Pride of another is not the same as pride in oneself.

One can be humble and yet find pride in the accomplishment of others.

In fact, it takes some humility to take pride in the accomplishment of others,
as opposed to one's own.

[saracat]

103. I like the family photos. They capture a human aspect of the Presidency but

it becomes "hero worship " when it decends into fan type posts assigning Obama super chracteristics which have yet to be proved or fawning over physical characteristics as though he were a film star. I have seen several postings calling him one of the "greatest " presidents, comparing him to Lincoln and JFK ect. The guy hasn't been in office a month!

Obama has done things I both like and dislike. We should never be afraid to crticize any of our elected officials.Democrats have the right to celebrate but it kind of depletes somer of the dignity of both the office and the man when some engage in real silliness. JMHO