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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:23 PM
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F-ing MSM... "Stocks tumble on doubts that stimulus will help economy soon"
I'm not even going to post the link, just look at the Yahoo home page to see it.

Its as if investors didn't know the stimulus was coming to today and its all NEW news.

Give me a friggin' break. Investors have been pulling out for months now and its not like the stimulus is something that hasn't been discussed for weeks. They aren't pulling out because of the bill, they are pulling out because its a continuing trend that started before the election was even over.

I tell ya, we really all need to stop bickering over petty stuff and start pulling together against some of the media. President Barack Obama is the best hope we have for at least the next 8 years. We need to get that spirit of organized unity in motion again. We need to counter attack the so called "liberal media" on its BS. We need to write emails and make phone calls. Our President needs to get the job done and we need to support him the best we can. The media is doing its best to change the narrative and hurt President Obama's efforts and thus hurt his re-election chances. We can't allow this to go on.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:26 PM
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1. CNBC's Dylan Rattigan just said the market went up a bit during
Obama's speech.

The biggie is his bank bailout tomorrow.

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:01 PM
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22. YEAP!! From what I understand Obama will make Freddy and Fannie tank thier rates and then make
...the big boys compete with them.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:03 PM
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23. This could be make or break for Obama.
Even Laura Tyson said the stimulus is important, but won't do much if we can't get our banks in order.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:02 AM
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24. Not necessarily
Look, nobody knows what's going on. We're in very uncharted territory here, and all sorts of things are going to happen. Jitters may reign supreme depending on the substance of the plan, but for this to be either "make" or "break", I rather doubt it.

Even if everything collapses, many aren't going to really blame Obama completely, although if everything suddenly got better, he would probably get the credit. I don't think the latter's gonna happen, though.

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:27 PM
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2. And who's suppose to have these "doubts?"
Did our glorious Whoreth Estate bother to identify these naysayers?

Or is this a variation on "Some people say...?"
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:27 PM
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3. Every single person on cable news and the MSM is part of the top X%
They ALL make big salaries ... They ALL have big
stock investments (especially at MSNBC, it's probably
in GE stock) ... They're not looking out for "the
little guy" ... and they can't help but allow their
own personal feelings to influence and cloud their
coverage.

Makes me wonder how much Dan Rather was making back
in the days when he dogged Richard Nixxxxxon ...
Probably not anything close to the equivalent of
what MSNBC is paying Tweety and co.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:29 PM
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4. They are trying to talk this bill down as they speak.....
they don't give a fuck about the American people!
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:31 PM
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5. F-ing wall street.
i'm sick and tired of these rich men's gambling houses setting the destiny for the rest of the country.

i'm even more sick and tired of measuring the success of the stimulus to rising or falling points on wall street... the same numbers that used to always go up whenever a corporation announced layoffs.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:32 PM
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6. When stocks get low enough
Those with the big dollars will start buying them up again. They are looking for really good deals and they will find them, until then the markets will keep going up and own like a yo-yo!
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:33 PM
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7. I immediately cut CNN off....that fucking idiot amy holmes
came right on to tear it down...switched to msnbc and some fuck there was talking negatively. I hate the media! It looks like regular americans aren't buying into their bullshit. The poll numbers will continue to rise. Fuck them!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:35 PM
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9. Yeah.....lets ask a funky Republican who is mad as hell this passed
for her opinion!

How ingenious! :crazy:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:35 PM
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10. Me too. I can't listen to the cable chatter any more nt
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:33 PM
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8. The polls show where America stands.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:36 PM
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11. The stock market reacts to news.
It is psychological and has nothing to do with reality. The Republicans have done a great job of playing down the stimulus. Obama's job is to show results or at least tell people that the future is bright. This is what Reagan did. It may have been a lie but it worked. Obama does not have to lie but he needs to give people a more positive outlook.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:37 PM
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12. Or they tumbled because they realize that Republicans are going to continue to
fight additional stimulus.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:39 PM
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13. It should be "Stocks tumble on doubts that Wall Street will benefit from stimulus" n/t
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Doctor_Horrible Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:39 PM
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14. I just got in and have heard the same thing on MSNBC three different times!
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brianna69 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:41 PM
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15. Screw the MSM and screw Wall Street
If Geithner came out tomorrow and said they were using tax payers money to buy up all the banks toxic assets at above market price, wall street would rally 1000 points. Let them suffer. I couldn't care less what the cry babies on wall street think. These are the same spoilt brats that want us to bail them out but still want to have their million dollar bonuses. This bill is for the people. We have suffered enough. Finally we have a president willing to do something for the people.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:43 PM
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16. Can we just close the stock market and don't let people participate in that form of trading?! n/t
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 03:44 PM by vaberella
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:44 PM
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17. Fuck Tailoring Policy to please Wall Street
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:45 PM
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19. Ain't no pleasing them anyway, except for if one is running a Giant Ponzi Scheme.....
now, that they like!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:44 PM
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18. Yep, they've only been down 200 points all day. Hardly a tumble. NT
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:48 PM
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20. Ever wonder how they pick what the stocks tubble and rise over?
Just follow the narrative of the day.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:58 PM
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21. How about turning them off and not subsidizing people who lie to you?

Get rid of cable, get rid of satellite. Tell them you are not going to pay another dime to be force fed garbage and tell them the reason why.

It is like the twilight zone episode - just don't look -
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