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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:50 AM
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You Stay Classy, Michelle. Malkin Poses With Man Holding Anti-Obama Swastika Sign
You Stay Classy, Michelle. Malkin Poses With Man Holding Anti-Obama Swastika Sign



You know how they say a picture is worth a thousand words? I gotta a few very choice words for Jesse's Girl:

According to ProgressNowColorado:

That's noted right-wing shill Michelle Malkin posing with who we've dubbed "Swastika Guy," owing to the sign he carried right onto the stage with State Senator Josh Penry, Congressman Mike Coffman, Colorado GOP Chairman Dick Wadhams, State Senator Dave Schultheis, former Congressman Tom Tancredo, and Independence Institute president Jon Caldara, among others. None of whom did anything about it, and in fact one person defended the guy to one of our people saying that the swastika is not a Nazi symbol, but an honored Native American symbol.

Yeah....I'm sure they're all BIG Native American scholars. Lisa at La Figa found the video of the event, and it's not much more pleasant, even without allusions to the Third Reich, something that happened frequently on the campaign trail.

So given that Malkin and the prominent state Republicans said nothing about such blatant hate speech propagandizing and have no problem being seen with or photographed with such a person doesn't make them a candidate of my usual cocktail of snark and scorn, but of utter disgust.

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/you-stay-classy-michelle-malkin-poses
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:53 AM
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1. So if this symbol
is just an honored Native American symbol then this guy must have been an Obama supporter. How dare Michelle Malkin pal around with someone who supports terrorists!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:05 PM
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2. I'd rather be photographed with a rotting dead rhinocerous than Malkin.
She is a real beast, inside and out.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:00 PM
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3. someone can correct me
(and probably will) but I thought the Native American symbol has the legs turned the opposite way?
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:09 PM
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5. No Native American use - although it had wide usage elsewhere pre-WWII
Wiki has an excellent historical overview. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
The swastika (from Sanskrit svástika स्वस्तिक ) is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing ( 卐 ) form or its mirrored left-facing ( 卍 ) form. Archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates from the Neolithic period. It occurs mainly in the modern day culture of India, sometimes as a geometrical motif and sometimes as a religious symbol. It remains widely used in Eastern religions / Dharmic religion such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

Though once commonly used all over much of the world without stigma, because of its iconic usage in Nazi Germany the symbol has become stigmatized in the Western world, notably even outlawed in Germany.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Image_Gallery
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:15 PM
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6. Or in other words, it's Indian from India, not Native American.

Sometimes the sheer stupidity of Rightists overwhelms me.


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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:33 PM
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9. Looks like my info was incomplete. It seems to be everywhere.
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 02:34 PM by Greyskye
Shame on me!

I had never heard of any indigenous Native American usage before. But because of this thread I decided to investigate a little more.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/440/was-the-swastika-actually-an-old-native-american-symbol
The Nazi fylfot, known as the swastika or hakenkreuz ("hook-cross") is actually a Teutonic runic ideograph called "Thorshamarr"--"the hammer of Thor." Although the Nazis emphasized the aggressive, martial implications of this symbol, its primary traditional meaning was the solar wheel and the cycle of life. The Thorshammarr, like many other runes and ideographs, was depicted in reverse (mirror-image) frequently, but its meaning remained constant. The concept of deosil (clockwise)/widdershins (counterclockwise) opposition, which occurs in European magical practice, does not apply to Teutonic runes.

The fylfot occurs frequently in native American symbology, and may be found in Northern Plains beadwork and Southwest pottery, basketry and sand paintings--usually with a deosil orientation. In Northern Plains symbolism, the fylfot is a representation of the four directions, and embodies the concept that the sacred place of two-leggeds (humankind) is at the center of the world-hoop. Even today the circular solar wheel is reproduced in hair ornaments of rawhide wrapped with dyed porcupine quills, traditional pieces which are still being made by Lakota craftswomen in the manner of their ancestors. --Jean-Marie E., Goleta, California


And then I even found buried in the original Wiki a section on Native American swastikas:
The swastika shape was used by some Native Americans. It has been found in excavations of Mississippian-era sites in the Ohio valley. It was widely used by many southwestern tribes, most notably the Navajo. Among various tribes, the swastika carried different meanings. To the Hopi it represented the wandering Hopi clan; to the Navajo it was one symbol for a whirling winds (tsil no'oli'), a sacred image representing a legend that was used in healing rituals (after learning of the Nazi association, the Navajo discontinued use of the symbol).<37> A brightly colored First Nations saddle featuring swastika designs is on display at the Royal Saskatchewan Museum in Canada.<38>

A swastika shape is a symbol in the culture of the Kuna people of Kuna Yala, Panama. In Kuna tradition, it symbolizes the octopus that created the world; its tentacles, pointing to the four cardinal points.<39>

In February, 1925, the Kuna revolted against Panamanian suppression of their culture, and were granted autonomy in 1930; the flag they adopted at that time is based on the swastika shape, and remains the official flag of Kuna Yala. A number of variations on the flag have been used over the years: red top and bottom bands instead of orange were previously used, and in 1942 a ring (representing the traditional Kuna nose-ring) was added to the center of the flag to distance it from the symbol of the Nazi party.<40>


Native American basketball team in 1909.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:09 PM
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11. Indians from India as I remember it. It is a good luck symbol?
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:08 PM
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4. Wait doesn't this guy deserve defending too?
We all know stuff like this is not important. Time to get over it all.

:sarcasm:

Come on some of ya have a job to do!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:17 PM
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7. I was thinking of Michelle Obama and
I wondered how she could get any more Classy?

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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:23 PM
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8. This guy's a lying asshole (not you would expect anything less from a Magalangadingdong fan)
While it's true that the swastika itself was historically used in some Native American cultures, as well as other cultures all over the world, the swastika tilted at the 45 degree angle is most definitely the NAZI use of the symbol.

And because of the Nazi association, you don't see many swastikas in use anymore, for obvious reasons.

This wiki page has a lot of info and pictures on non-Adolf swastikas... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:52 PM
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10. Man... if I were that guy with the swastika sign I'd be SOOO embarrassed
to be seen next to Malkin.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:15 PM
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12. What is WRONG with her? How self-loathing is she?
Doesn't she know that Nazis don't particularly care for Asians either? What the hell is wrong with her? :dunce:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:17 PM
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14. Know what else is funny?
Malkin's hypocrisy. She posted this when directing people to watch TV news video of the "Porkulus" protest in Seattle:

"Update: KIRO TV covered the event. Watch for the unhinged lib who tries to disrupt the peaceful protest with a Nazi salute."

So, if that guy is "unhinged," what does it make Michelle Malkin? :-)
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 07:48 PM
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15. Well she looked happy to pose next
to him. x(
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:08 PM
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13. This photo she posted cracks me up, too
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/18/more-scenes-from-mesa-i-need-a-beachfront-condo-mr-president/



Ummm... exactly which flag does this guy think he drew? I'm guessing he thinks French. He would be wrong about that. ;-)
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