Cartoon: Racist or not Racist

[Political Heretic]

This cartoon has four gunshot wounds depicted, not two as claimed elsewhere. It is also a reference to this actual picture of a chimp attacking a police car as shown here:



So, I'm posting a poll to get a feel for weather or not majority DU is really as insane as it sometimes appears in runaway threads...

[firedupdem]

1. Here is the same already in progress

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8207112&mesg_id=8207112

[babylonsister]

2. Thanks. I objected to the m$m doing this, now DU? nt

[Political Heretic]

3. It appears the answer to my question is: insane and reactionary.

Well good to know I guess.

OMG the author used black ink as well!!!!1!1!1!! RACIST!!!!11!!!!!11111 CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!11111

Did you know if you cut up the cartoon into several strips and then arrange them so that they spell KKK... they spell KKK?!?!?!!!!!!!

[grantcart]

4. The fact that some elements of the cartoon is consistent with the actual

event is completely and totally irrelevent.


The choice of using a simian image to represent an African American is a particularly hurtful and very prominent in American history. If the cartoonist had reproduced the image exactly as your photo it would still be irrelevent.

Now whether or not they really in the heart of hearts intended to make that connection we can put aside for a minute. They absolutely knew that many of their readers in New York would make that connection. If they did not then the cartoonist should find another career.

Much more damning is the editor. Either he saw it and no warning light went off or the warning light went off and they decided it would be great fun anyway. In the first case they are astonishingly ignorant of the environment they publish in or the second case they really are monsters and wanted to stir the shit up to sell some papers.

[Political Heretic]

7. He's not representing an african american

Brack Obama didn't write the fucking bill. Congress did.

I'm dreading the next eight years of having to put up with people seeing OMGRACIST!!!1 everywhere they look anytime someone disagrees with Democrats on anything. :(

[dbmk]

15. And exactly how are the GOP selling it?

As the congress' bill or Obamas bill?

The text even points to _one_ person. There can be little doubt as to whom that is directed. Racist or not.

[Political Heretic]

16. OMG THIS IS HUGH!!!11

give me a fucking break.

[dbmk]

20. Ok, I yield your superior argument.

[last_texas_dem]

5. That chimp obviously represents Obama- no question about it

and the "Beware of Dog" sign is obviously referencing turning dogs on blacks in the Old South, and the two bullet holes in the chimp's chest obviously represent the eye holes in a Klansman's hood.

Oh yeah, and while we're at it, that New Yorker cartoonist from last summer obviously thought the Obamas really were flag burning, militant terrorists.

How do I know these things to be true? Well, they're... they're just obvious, dammit! And if they aren't obvious to you, you're obviously lying. Either that, or you're an apologist for racists.

[Political Heretic]

8. ITS FOUR HOLES. FOUR. ONE TWO THREE FOUR.

Beware of dog... kind of like the original picture the whole cartoon is modeled from?

For fucks sake.

[last_texas_dem]

10. Sorry, man, I should have included the sarcasm icon

I thought my post was so over the top that it would be apparent. :-)

[Political Heretic]

11. You are saying EXACTLY what dead serious people are saying! :P

No kidding.... go read the other thread....

People are seriously saying exactly what you just did.

[last_texas_dem]

13. Yeah, I saw many of those

I was kinda going for a "best of over-the-top DU reactions to what the cartoon might represent" with my post...

[Political Heretic]

14. I've gotta stop posting tonight. This place is seriously damaging my calm.

Sorry to yell at you. :)

[TheWraith]

6. If you don't see it, then you need to have your head examined. Seriously.

I'm the first person to agree that DU frequently goes batshit crazy for no particular reason, but this is a VERY GOOD fucking reason.

[Political Heretic]

9. Oh yeah... THIS TIME its different.

:eyes:

[PBS Poll-435]

12. I, earlier in the day, was torn between what I felt and what I wanted to feel

This is a fucking stupid cell written by a RW idiot.

I never for one moment thought of our President on the sidewalk.



Just a stupid RW idiot drawing cartoons for Murdoch.

[quickesst]

17. I didn't vote in the poll for a simple reason....

...and that is because it won't be long before the next hot button issue arrives, this will be forgotten, or lose it's place of importance, and we'll have a brand new set of racists, anti-semites, etc. to wail on which will last until their is another to take it's place. Pretty much all of the racists that were "discovered" during the primaries are still here and no longer racists. Pretty much all of the homophobes that were "exposed" during the Rick Warren outrage are still here, and no longer homophobes, or so it seems by the lack of accusations that were so prominent when it was a hot button issue. Fighting the good fight is all well and good, but simple observation reveals that much of the outrage expressed here on certain issues can be most fleeting at best, and re-directed at the drop of a hat. Thanks.
quickesst

[PatSeg]

18. Dumb, really dumb

My first reaction to the cartoon was how stupid and pointless it was, as well as violent. I didn't see the racist element personally, but I can see how some people did.

[tekisui]

19. Racist. You ever lived in the South?

You may not see it as racist, you may be so above that. It most definitely, without a doubt it racist.