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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:51 PM
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Shelby Doubts Obama Citizenship

Alan Keyes isn't the only one keeping alive rumors that Barack Obama isn't a natural born citizen.

At an event last week in Alabama, Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) answered a question from a constituent in a way that indicates he still holds doubts, according to the Cullman Times.

Said Shelby: "Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven't seen any birth certificate. You have to be born in America to be president."

Meanwhile, Ben Smith emailed a Shelby staffer for clarification of the senator's position.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/02/22/shelby_doubts_obama_citizenship.html
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:53 PM
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1. I want Shelby to provide proof he is a member of the homo sapiens species.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:29 PM
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13. I want Keyes & Shelby to prove that they don't need professional help
Alan Keyes is barely fit (mentally) to be able to qualify for a library card, let alone public office...

Shelby, though more sane than Keyes (which isn't saying much) is just another angry southern Republican who can't accept that Obama won a LANDSLIDE election....

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 02:29 PM
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28. Wikipedia
Shelby claims to be born in Birmingham, Alabama to Alice L. Skinner and Ozie Houston Shelby, although this has never been fully confirmed.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:54 PM
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2. carefully constructed statement, isn't it.
Nothing he said is untrue, but if people are looking for support for the controversy, they can use it. Gee I haven't had Obama's birth certificate put in my hands either--but so what.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:54 PM
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3. Some of these idiots don't even know that the BC was long since
released.

And why aren't they demanding to see anyone else's BC? Palin's for starters? How do they know she wasn't born in Russia?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:00 PM
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4. They just close their eyes, so they can keep saying they haven't seen it.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:02 PM
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5. I haven't seen Shelby's birth certificate and/or naturalization papers
and you have to be a US citizen to be a Senator.

What about it Shelby? Mail me a copy.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:32 PM
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17. A copy is inadequate. Demand the original. Two can play at that game.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 07:29 PM
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33. A copy?
I want the ORIGINAL! None of this copy stuff...Copies can be forged, ya know!
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 04:14 PM
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46. yeah, and he needs to bring it to my house.
:-)
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:03 PM
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6. OH, I am SO loving this...
They are exposing their utter, uncompromising idiocy for all to see...all we need is FactCheck.org, and they're pwned!
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:29 PM
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14. Everyone knows that FactCheck.org is a hard left wing propaganda machine
Facts almost always go against the Republickers. That's because reality is a liberal lie. Duh. :eyes:
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 05:22 PM
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31. As is Snopes, truthorfiction, the physical universe, etc...
ALL far-left propaganda tools.
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:04 PM
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7. Yeah well the rest of doubt Shelby's intelligence, so there.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:06 PM
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8. Rep. Shelby is welcome to go to Kenya to prove that Obama was born THERE
if it bothers him that much.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:36 PM
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18. Can we lock the door when he leaves here?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:11 PM
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9. I doubt Shelby's sanity. Does that make us even?
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:13 PM
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10. This is how stupid this is.. and STUPID is the opeative word
These idiots are using an interview through an interpreter of his paternal grandmother in Kenya who when asked if Obama was born in Kenya.. (why ask that in the first place.. does not that not make you go hmmmmmm) and she responds yes, duh, she was talking about Obama Sr.


Dear Lord, can I get a witness with this.

Time to hang those turkeys out to dry.. No wonder this country is so messed up, with nimrods like those in charge.

They have the birth certificate, the certification from the State of Hawaii.. and still they keep beating this drum

Stupid on a Stick

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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:17 PM
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11. the "update" at that link with the spokesperson's reaction is so freaking pathetic.
"UPDATE: Graffeo calls to say that the Cullman Times report is a "distortion" and that Shelby mentioned that he hadn't seen the birth certificate only as a "throwaway line" while listing the qualifications for office and explaining that the issue had been examined at length and put to rest.

"He doesn't have any doubt" about Obama's citizenship and eligibility, Graffeo said."
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:28 PM
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12. neverforget Doubts Shelby's Sanity
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:30 PM
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15. And, shelby has no fucking clue how braindead
that makes him sound. :silly:

If shelby's so gol damned worried about it..maybe he could use some of his super investigative powers and go find said birth certificate? Just a thought, shelby..course I know you'd rather spread lies and disinformantion to those brainwashable pod people who come to hear you lie.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:31 PM
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16. Why isn't this asshole supporting the President of the United States in a time of war?
He's a terrorist, in my book. I think he should be sent to an undisclosed location in an Eastern European prison and held indefinitely.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:42 PM
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19. These wingnuts wouldn't be satisfied if they had a
god damned film of the birth with Diamond Head in the background!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:47 PM
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20. Not that I ever doubted he was born in Hawaii
but I thought this was a dead issue when I heard about the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper. How do you fake that 40+ years later? :crazy:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:56 PM
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22. The Birthers explain it away thusly
Obama's toot had it put in the paper to cover up for her daughter's mistake in having Obama in Kenya.

Yeah, I know. It's stupid, but we're talking about Birthers here.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 02:23 PM
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27. So his grandmother knew he was going to grow up and become president
Sure. LOL
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 04:20 PM
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47. because she planned for him to be president someday????
wtf!!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:58 PM
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23. They should ask our Republican Governor for authenticity.....
Buncha fools they are...

Is that it??? Thats all ther got??

Then they should listen to KO about one of THEIR BEST....Michelle Bachmann...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y165e1YXK0s
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:54 PM
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21. Well, if Shelby has an ounce of smarts and honor...
he could also have meant something else with his statement:




Said Shelby: "Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven't seen any birth certificate. You have to be born in America to be president."



He could have meant that even though his father was Kenyan and Obama was born in Hawaii and he (Shelby) hasn't seen the birth certificate, any IDIOT knows that you have to be an American citizen to be president, and Obama IS president, and not even the Bushies made a move to stop him, so shut the hell up already because we're sick of the bullshit.


I mean, it's possible he could have meant that, right?

;)



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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 02:31 PM
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29. Ounce of smarts and honor?? Why do you think he left the Democratic Party?
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:58 PM
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24. A simple question to ask him...
"If you had any question of President Obama's eligibility, why didn't you use your opportunity to challenge the certification of the Electoral Vote in Congress?"
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 02:08 PM
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25. I have not personally seen Senator Shelby's testicles
Perhaps he doesn't have any?

The logic here is penetrable (no pun intended) by a fourth-grader.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 02:09 PM
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26. Ben Smith's update at the link
I emailed Shelby's spokesman, Jonathan Graffeo, to ask if Shelby believes there's substance to this rumor, for which no supporting evidence has ever emerge, and which has been debunked repeatedly and in detail.

UPDATE: Graffeo calls to say that the Cullman Times report is a "distortion" and that Shelby mentioned that he hadn't seen the birth certificate only as a "throwaway line" while listing the qualifications for office and explaining that the issue had been examined at length and put to rest.

"He doesn't have any doubt" about Obama's citizenship and eligibility, Graffeo said.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 05:20 PM
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30. Have all rethuglican'ts,
since the November general, been given detailed instructions on how to successfully shoot ones foot? They are all so suddenly adept and consistent. It appears to include all regions, both male & female, and the few African American rethugs allowed to speak, are just as skilled as the old guard whites. I know they all strive to stay on message and present a unified front to the world, but they seem to be taking it to the extreme.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 07:21 PM
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32. I didn't realize that the President was required to show Shelby his birth certificate
Is that in the constitution? I think he wants it to steal Obama's identity.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 07:33 PM
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34. Shelby's parents are brother and sister. Pass it on. n/t
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:19 AM
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43. I haven't seen any documentation to prove or disprove it.
Therefore it must be true.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 07:38 PM
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35. Well,
:rofl:

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missy1e23 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:27 AM
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36. :(
oh why must he be one of my senators?!?!
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:37 AM
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37. Are there two Shelby assholes?
I found this on: http://www.americablog.com/2009/02/alabama-paper-stands-by-quotes-from-gop.html
Alabama paper stands by quotes from GOP Senator Dick Shelby, who still hasn't produced proof that he isn't a pedophile

I don't know if GOP Senator Dick Shelby is a pedophile. I do know that I've never seen proof that he isn't. And now the Alabama press is calling him a liar. Senator Shelby really ought to come clean with his constituents. For the sake of the children.

Anybody else think Dick Shelby just had himself a Trent Lott moment? And interesting that both men are from the deep south.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:51 AM
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38. So is he saying that Hawaii was not part of the United States
at the time of Obama's birth or that Obama was born in Kenya?

Because I'm wondering if he would have made a big stink if McSame had won, being born in the Canal Zone.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:16 AM
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39. Shelby is not an American citizen. nt
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:23 AM
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40. desperate aren't they?
unbelieveable what stuff they spew up? whiny babies.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:29 AM
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41. Does Shelby know that Hawaii is a US state please?
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:13 AM
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42. Shelby is an effing liar
the whole goddam WORLD saw Obama's birth certificate.
These pukes make me sick they really do, they have nothing of substance to offer so they act like schoolyard boys.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:25 AM
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44. I have seen Richard Shelby NOT having sex with both men and women.
That only leaves animals. Senator, can you prove that you're not hot for Bossie or any other barnyard creature?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 03:53 PM
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45. If Bossie could talk, Sen. Shelby would be toast. (nt)
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