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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:34 PM
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I just went to David Shuster's "Twitter" site...
He said he's twittering right now. So I asked him, "Why don't you call out/correct Republicans (like Darryl Issa) when they call the Democratic party the "Democrat party?" And he replied: "why don't we call lawmakers for saying "democrat" party.. probably because I didn't hear it clearly enough to conclude he said it." Then I wrote back, "OK, but please "be on the lookout" for that. Nearly every Repub. calls Dems. the "Democrat party" or the "Democrat congress."

http://twitter.com/home?status=@Shuster1600%20&in_reply_to_status_id=1242677490&in_reply_to=Shuster1600
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:36 PM
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1. Good for you, Jen. Have you been on Jack Cafferty lately?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:39 PM
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4. Thanks. I don't watch his show anymore, but I sometimes answer his questions and yes, I just had
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 06:43 PM by jenmito
one read on the air few weeks ago. The question was, "What would Dr. Martin Luther King say to Barack Obama if he was alive today?" And I answered, "I can't believe you beat the Clintons."
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 08:36 AM
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34. Love it. You've got the "write" touch.
:rofl:


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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:36 PM
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2. Why is that insulting? I've heard my relatives who are democrats say democrat party.
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 06:38 PM by Cash_thatswhatiwant
not until here did i know it was considered a slur. why is it considered a slur? i genuinely want to know.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:41 PM
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5. Some say it started with Newt Gingrich. He instructed Repubs. to call Dems.
the "DemocRAT party" so the word "rat" is the end of the word. And if you go to freeperville, they write it just like I did above.
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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:43 PM
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6. oooo ok. thanks
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:44 PM
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9. No problem. There are tons of links about it if you google it. n/t
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:49 PM
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14. it's he "CRAT" part, not "rat"
Like bureauCRAT, technoCRAT, autoCRAT ... it has a socialist/apparachik ring to it.

We're lucky they don't call us the Democrachik party.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:51 PM
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17. Oh, ok...
but that's not what I read. I read it was the "rat" emphasis.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:43 PM
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7. It is a Subjective Thing,
but the word "democratic" has positive connotations of equality and fairness, while "Democrat" smacks of partisan politics.

Also, by using a noun like "Democrat" as an adjective, the effect is to harden and objectify.
Think of the difference between calling Lieberman a "Jewish senator" versus a "Jew senator."
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:44 PM
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8. The best explanation I've found:
http://us-parties.suite101.com/article.cfm/democratic_vs_democrat

When a conservative deliberately says, the “Democrat Party,” instead of the “Democratic Party,” s/he usually means that s/he does not think that party’s principles are democratic but rather are communistic, socialistic, authoritarian, dictatorial, or some other quality that runs counter to traditional American democratic, people-oriented values.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:39 PM
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29. The reason I thought they
said "democrat party" was because they didn't want to remind people that we're the Democratic Party..same kind of thing.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:48 PM
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13. Because "Democrat party" implies its about individuals (ie rich power-hunrgy politicians), whereas
the other is about the democratic principle.
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:40 PM
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30. It's not the name of the party
that's enough reason to be insulted. If you tell someone what your name is and they insist on calling you something else - aren't you insulted?

It's not grammatical - another reason.

The main reason to be insulted though, is that the Repubs - who do not like democracy - in calling our party the Democrat Party are specifically deemphasizing "democratic" - because they discovered (probably through that Luntz guy) people respond positively to that word. People generally like governments that operate in a democratic way and parties that have democratic ideals.

So they are trying to dissasociate us from our true name so that positive impression, triggered by hearing the word "democratic," is broken.

Straighten out your relatives. I've never heard a member of the Democratic Party call it the Democrat Party. And I've been around for a long time.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:38 PM
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3. I hope he holds onto the time slot
Someone twittered last week and asked him why they don't rerun the show on the weeknights, and he said it was because his ratings aren't high enough. So much better in that timeslot than Gregory (or, ugh, Tucker). I remember during the campaign when there could be five "I HATE DAVID GREGORY!" threads on a night, heh.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:49 PM
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15. People need to DVR it because those numbers are counted in the ratings. Even if you generally
can watch it live so you don't need to DVR/TIVO it, do it anyone just so his numbers go up.

Of course, you can only do that if you actually have one so it doesn't work for everybody. ;)



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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:49 PM
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16. So do I...
and he has the "Hypocrisy Watch" segment which is almost always about Repubs.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:45 PM
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10. Ask him to put a muzzle on Holt
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:46 PM
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11. wow! He's actually responding? I take it his site
hasn't taken off yet? :shrug:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:48 PM
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12. He responded about a minute or two after I asked the question. n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:55 PM
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18. So we can only see his response, right? We can't see the questions people ask.
That is what I've seen when I check these out. Am I missing something or is that the way it works? If you sign up at Twitter then can you ask/email anybody a question who has a Twitter site?

I've been reading some - Claire McCaskill, Ana Marie Cox, Shuster - but am still figuring it out.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:00 PM
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20. I'm not sure. The link in my OP shows the questions and answers...
unless only I can see it since I asked the question. It's my first time doing this so I don't really get it yet, either.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:05 PM
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21. Can you see anyone else's questions? I've noticed they sometimes repeat
questions before or during their answers.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:07 PM
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23. No. All I see is my question and all the rest are comments by Shuster and
Rick Sanchez. I must be doing something wrong.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:24 PM
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24. That is what I see also. That may just be how it works. It worked since he got your
question and responded.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:29 PM
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28. Hmmm. Hopefully we'll figure it out.
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:25 PM
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25. You ask a question by writing a "reply" (click the arrow to the right of the Tweet).
You can see the question if you click their name and read through their recent Tweets. So you scroll down until you see

@Shuster1600

Like here is jenmito's question: http://twitter.com/jenmito/status/1242768909
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:28 PM
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27. Thank you.
:yourock:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:59 PM
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19. What's he having for supper?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:06 PM
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22. Don't know, don't care. n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:40 PM
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31. Well, Sen. McCaskill is going out to dinner with Govs Kaine and Sebelius.
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 07:43 PM by Pirate Smile
She also really liked Obama's quote: "The majority has to be inclusive. The minority needs to be constructive. "


http://twitter.com/clairecmc

;)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:45 PM
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33. That WAS a good quote!
And I hope they have a good time. :D
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:27 PM
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26. Go Jen!! Good Job! n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:43 PM
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32. Thanks, firedupdem, but anyone could do it.
:)
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