ProSense
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:58 PM
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Obama to withdraw most troops from Iraq by August 2010 |
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President Obama is expected to announce this week that he will withdraw most U.S. troops from Iraq by August 2010, 19 months after his inauguration. Obama’s plan will initially leave a “residual force” of 30,000 to 50,000 troops. “A further withdrawal will take place before December 2011, the period by which the U.S. agreed with Iraq to remove all American troops.” Obama was also considering 16-month and 23-month timetables; the 19-month time frame was reportedly a “ compromise.”
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:06 PM
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1. You are a good soldier, Prosense. And a good Democrat. |
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And all presidents are constrained by what is possible.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:09 PM
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2. 30,000 to 50,000 residual force? |
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Fonzie makes less in residuals.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:11 PM
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4. “A further withdrawal will take place before December 2011...to remove all American troops.” n/t |
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:10 PM
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3. Thanks for this. Olbermann was just talking as if it was a broken promise. It's the FIRST |
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Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 08:11 PM by jenmito
time I disagree with Keith. 3 months longer than he said he would keep combat troops in during his campaign is NOTHING, considering he's now the president and has to work with others to get it done.
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Clio the Leo
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:17 PM
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5. He does this for two reasons..... |
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1. it gets your attention
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2. it's a journalistic trick. He plays Devil's advocte so that the pundent can have an opportunity to refute the claim. And that's exactly what happend. "The sight of those troops coming home will be amazing." So the viewer is left with the POSITIVE image.
It's when he starts OFF with the thing you agree with and the "expert" starts sounding like he just left the Faux News studio that we need to worry. ;)
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EraOfResponsibility
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:22 PM
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6. ah, that's a good point! |
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:38 PM
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7. It happens ALL the time..... |
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.... he did it last night with the whole Bagram/Rendition/More of the Same BS.
I see so many folks getting upset about what the talking heads say when they're not listening to the WHOLE conversation ...... just the set up.
Also, you have to watch the caption at the bottom of the screen. If his point as to call Barack out backpeddling, but that's not what the caption said. It said, "reality on the ground" which implies that the rhetoric of the campaign sometimes have to be set aside for the REALITY of how things are when you are privy to Intel.
Ehh, it's three months. Considering the fact that I've always understood McCain's claim that we could be in Iraq "forever" as we have been in Korea, I'll take it!
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EraOfResponsibility
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:14 PM
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17. Clio, is what RAchel did also a journalism trick? |
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:24 PM
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18. She's gone from being a minor disappointment to an utter failure, IMHO |
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:50 PM
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9. But he has Rachel on now saying this looks like a BUSH plan... |
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Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 08:54 PM by jenmito
which is wrong. She's disappointed and Keith is agreeing with her.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:51 PM
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10. EXACTLY! Her lying ass talking about 2013 |
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WRONG, RAchel! 19 months is NOT 2013! Learn to count, woman.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:54 PM
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12. I hate when she starts with the unjustified doom and gloom... |
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with the wrong information like you just said. Very disappointing.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:52 PM
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11. Keith and Rachel do this and I flip to CNN. Bush plan? She can't be serious. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:55 PM
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14. Sadly, she IS serious. n/t |
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:55 PM
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13. Something is wrong with that lady sometimes |
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In a rush to appear independent, she screws up her facts. The "residual" troops are planned to be out by December 2011, not 2013.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:57 PM
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she was way off tonight. Just like when she kept saying Hillary was going to "take it all the way to the Convention." :eyes:
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:02 PM
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16. Rachel annoys me sometimes and this is one of them. |
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I usually agree with her on policy but her political radar is way off base. And I've had it up to my eyeballs with the gloom and doomers lately.
For cryin' out loud, McCain would have kept them there forever. Obama extended his time table by 3 months and in the process he probably made the generals feel like they have some input, so they're happy now. And that just might pay off on some other things in the long run.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:48 PM
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8. Not on schedule, but I see the light at the end |
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:03 AM
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19. 38% of Troops to Remain in Iraq - this is bull shit |
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That's just awful.
How about letting the Iraqis vote on it directly. You know how that would come out. 805 have wanted us out for years.
What bull shit.
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