Bicoastal
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:46 PM
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Sorry, President Obama--but the US did not "invent" the automobile |
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The Germans did. Karl Benz, 1888.
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:47 PM
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1. I think he meant the auto industry, or the modern auto industry |
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Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 09:48 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
Assembly lines, and all that jazz.
But yes, I caught that too.
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:48 PM
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2. Well, we DID create all that jazz... |
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:49 PM
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3. Don't worry, the freeps will never catch that one |
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they will want to believe Americans invented it.
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:07 PM
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38. nope, they heard him and are correcting Pres. Obama. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:49 PM
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:49 PM
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5. Please, the Irish did it first |
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:54 PM
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9. The Irish get blamed for everything....with their wonderful nectar. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 10:10 PM
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11. Oi! Henry O'Ford was as jober as a sludge. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 10:22 PM
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Seriously. The word whisky is derived from the Gaelic phrase uisce beatha "water of life".
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Tue Feb-24-09 10:27 PM
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:49 PM
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:50 PM
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Fuckin' DUers and they're being "well informed" (I'm kidding. I loves you guys!)
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:50 PM
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Yeah, the assembly line was invented here, not the automobile.
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Tue Feb-24-09 10:07 PM
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10. ah but we perfected it. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 10:11 PM
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12. We perfected it from a hand made one off to something in every driveway |
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Tue Feb-24-09 10:12 PM
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Tue Feb-24-09 10:24 PM
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15. Yeah, but then they went and bombed Pearl Harbor... |
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:13 AM
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You owe me a new keyboard.
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Tue Feb-24-09 10:26 PM
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16. We invented the modern, mass-produced automobile. |
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Before that they were custom made toys for the rich. Some of them still are.
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Tue Feb-24-09 10:31 PM
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18. that damn Eli Whitney & the cotton jin did it. |
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:14 AM
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24. Having not read this thread before replying, I am somewhat surprised by how |
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closely my post resembles yours.
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Wed Feb-25-09 10:57 AM
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19. This will not go over well in Germany. |
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They are very proud of their accomplishments in the auto industry. Obama needs to educate himself and apologize to Germany.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:14 AM
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25. My husband's Beemer certainly isn't an accomplishment. |
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It's in the shop every three months.
He's unloading it for a Ford Escape Hybrid as soon as he's not upside down on it.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:28 AM
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30. Should have bought a car from Stuttgart... |
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The Bavarians are no match for Schwabians when it comes to building cars.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:10 AM
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20. A little old lady in Moscow invented the first internal combustion machine -- Pavel Chekov |
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:15 AM
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26. And she only drove it to the markets on Sunday. It's a real steal, partner, a real steal. nt |
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:12 AM
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21. I'm thinking he meant how we revolutionized the manufacturing |
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process and mass assembly.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:13 AM
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23. We invented the commercially viable mass-produced automobile. |
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Benz invented a handcrafted toy for the rich. We invented the auto industry. I think Obama's claim is fair.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:16 AM
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27. In any color you wanted, too... as long as it was black. |
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:23 AM
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Obama said our nation invented the automobile, not the automobile industry. He was wrong. Do we have to twist ourselves into pretzels (invented by Germans "Brezeln") in order to give him an excuse for this mistake?
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:27 AM
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29. Yes, if you look at the claim on its face, it is technically incorrect. |
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Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 11:29 AM by Occam Bandage
Similarly, if Obama in a speech about the vision of Kennedy were to say "America was the first to the Moon" he would be technically incorrect, because the Russians sent an unmanned probe to the Moon before we did.
But yet only pedants would complain, because it is obvious that he meant "first to send a man to the moon," and not "first to send an object to the moon." Similarly, it is obvious in a discussion of the modern automobile industry, that Obama was referring to the creation of the modern mass-produced automobile, and not to the first vehicle that was propelled with an internal combustion engine.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:29 AM
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31. It wasn't obvious at all |
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Perhaps he should have added the word 'industry'?
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:34 AM
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32. He could have added it. nt |
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:30 PM
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33. What, so now he needs to APOLOGIZE to Germany? |
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:52 PM
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34. That will teach them a lesson for bombing Pearl Harbor! |
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Wed Feb-25-09 02:37 PM
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35. Peugeot's been making and selling internal combustion engined cars continuously since 1891 |
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I think they were the second in the business...
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Wed Feb-25-09 02:41 PM
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36. It's a nuance, like inventing the internet |
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In the long run history isn't necessarily factual, it's whatever the victor chooses to make it. We are the "leader of the free world" and Obama is our leader, so if he wants to say we invented automobiles who is there to argue with that?
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Wed Feb-25-09 04:15 PM
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Any reasonably rational clear thinking individual would know exactly what he meant and the accuracy of the statement.
Couldn't find anything else to bitch about at the moment I take it?
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