Jindal's the dumbest person alive. He's against monitoring volcanoes!? WTF!!

[Ediacara]

Hey dummy! A volcanic observatory is like the National Hurricane Center. Only for volcanoes!

How does this sound to you Bobby:

"Well I guess here in Washington, there's no hurricanes, so I can rag on money wasted for the National Hurricane Center and call it wasteful."

Idiot....

ON EDIT: Just to be clear, this is a response to Jindal saying that putting money into monitoring volcanoes was wasteful, and he wasn't even sure what that meant. Here's the relevent text:

"But Democratic leaders in Congress -- they rejected this approach. Instead of trusting us to make wise decisions with our own money, they passed the largest government spending bill in history, with a price tag of more than $1 trillion with interest. While some of the projects in the bill make sense, their legislation is larded with wasteful spending. It includes $300 million to buy new cars for the government, $8 billion for high-speed rail projects, such as a "magnetic levitation" line from Las Vegas to Disneyland, and $140 million for something called "volcano monitoring." Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/24/sotn.jindal.transcript/

[liberalmuse]

1. Who wants to bet money...

that a major volcano errupts before the end of this year?

[Ediacara]

6. Redoubt looks like it might erupt this week

As far as volcanoes in more populated areas (like the Cascades), I guess we'll have to rely on THE CASCADES VOLCANIC OBSERVATORY for information.

[panader0]

8. Yellowstone is bulging. Supervolcano someday.........

Edit to add: $140 million sounds cheap for that.

[Joe Bacon]

44. Who needs to monitor volcanoes when Bobby will exorcise them!

I can see it now, Yellowstone erupts and Bobby lays his hands on the volcano and says "THOU FOWL DEEEMON COME OUT!!!!"

:rofl:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. I'm sure that position went over well with the residents of

Washington, Alaska and Hawaii. Not that the eruption of Mt. St. Helens was a big deal or anything.

[derby378]

Jindal's a "slumdog" minus the "millionaire" bit

:rofl: What a fucking tool.

[Joe Bacon]

40. SLUMDOG MORONAIRE is more like it!

:evilgrin:

[Blue_In_AK]

3. Did he really say that?

The Alaska Volcano Observatory is monitoring Mt. Redoubt even as we speak. http://www.avo.alaska.edu/activity/Redoubt.php It's still code "orange."

[Ediacara]

7. He said something like:

"...and $140M for observing volcanoes, whatever that means. Instead of monitoring volcanoes, we should be...."

ON EDIT: Here's the text:

"But Democratic leaders in Congress -- they rejected this approach. Instead of trusting us to make wise decisions with our own money, they passed the largest government spending bill in history, with a price tag of more than $1 trillion with interest. While some of the projects in the bill make sense, their legislation is larded with wasteful spending. It includes $300 million to buy new cars for the government, $8 billion for high-speed rail projects, such as a "magnetic levitation" line from Las Vegas to Disneyland, and $140 million for something called "volcano monitoring." Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/24/sotn.jindal.transcript/

[Blue_In_AK]

16. Wow, that's incredibly stupid.

I guess he doesn't realize that a KLM jet carrying 231 passengers almost crashed the last time Redoubt erupted because apparently the pilot wasn't aware. http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/672551.html It seems to me like it's a good idea to know what the volcanoes are up to.

[Ediacara]

21. No kidding, especially if a volcano erupts at night

Without knowledge from the USGS, planes are sitting ducks.

[Liberty Belle]

4. Yellowstone may be ready to blow - worst volcanic erruption in US history, once it goes,

according to volcano experts I have interviewed.

Let's hope Jindal is vacationing there when the big event occurs.

[Baikonour]

20. It Yellowstone erupts, it could take out almost half of North America.

Of course, most scientists are saying it won't happen for another 90,000 years or so.

Still, it's something that needs to be monitored very closely.

[Liberty Belle]

45. See this thread and kick it please:

All the links Jindal should've read about volcanos--and why we SHOULD monitor them!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5129356&mesg_id=5129356

[Ilsa]

33. The one at Yellowstone will change the course of history and

wipe out a significant part of US population, food supplies, etc. We'll be in deep shit when it happens unless there is serious preparation.

[Liberty Belle]

46. Yep, a volcanologist at Hawaii Volcanoes National Observatory told me that

several years ago. And yes, they do monitor volcanoes there!

[Jennicut]

5. He only cares about hurricanes I guess..dumbass

[Zynx]

9. That honestly sounds like the rant of some eighth grader.

[HughMoran]

10. I think it was his 5th grade attempt to fit the word "volcano" into his speech

I don't think he even cared that his criticism made no sense whatsoever, he got to say "eruption of spending" :eyes: :freak:

[Ediacara]

11. You may be right, I bet he was fighting not to smirk at his own purple prose

[bluethruandthru]

12. 140 million is miniscule.

I love the fake outrage over an amount that the bigshots at Halliburton wouldn't walk across the street for! I'm sure Piyush and his repub friends thought that shoveling money at dick cheney's cronies was perfectly fine...but God forbid we spend any money on things that don't line the pockets of the superich.

[Ediacara]

15. Volcanoes are mostly in blue states

So Jindal's against money for looking at them. And plus, the volcanoes in red states all happen to be in the home of his nemesis, so he's okay with not looking at them too.

[rvablue]

13. This was so stupid, I was thinking it might have been a "shot across the bough" to Bible Spice

for the 2012 primary. Because frankly, it didn't make any sense.

[Ediacara]

14. Even Palin wouldn't be against monitoring volcanoes....

I mean, she can see some from her house.

[Blue_In_AK]

19. I can see Redoubt from mine

(almost) - I just have to drive a couple miles down to the Point.

[Ediacara]

23. Very cool

Although... I certainly hope you're safe and sound.

[Blue_In_AK]

28. When/if it does blow, we should be okay over here.

It's about 150 miles away so even if the prevailing winds bring ash over here, it shouldn't be more than a few millimeters. My brother who lives down on the Kenai Peninsula would probably have a little more inconvenience, but there are no settlements immediately in the danger zone.

I was here for the eruptions in 1989-90 and Mr. Spurr (which is closer) in 1992, and although it was a mess and smelled kind of nasty, it was manageable.

[rvablue]

31. Blue, can't you just see narcissist, arrogant Sarah pacing around in her great room

tonight, fuming that the GOP didn't pick her instead?

Oh, this next Republican primary fight is going to be one to watch. The arrogance on all ends is fantastic!!!

[Blue_In_AK]

32. It'll be entertaining, all right.

I'm not a Sarah fan - as you know - but I think even she could have done better than Bobby. I could only sit through about 30 seconds of him. With Sarah at the RNC, I at least was able to hang in with her for about five minutes before I couldn't take it anymore.

[Raine]

17. GAWD what an ASS!

:puke:

[Baikonour]

18. When Mt. St Helens erupts again like in 1980..

We'll know who to blame.

[FVZA_Colonel]

22. And when Mt. Raineer finally goes, putting 2 million people in danger.

[grantcart]

24. who the hell cares about volcanoes anyway?

[Dappleganger]

25. Maybe he should turn off hurricane monitoring for his state...

somehow I don't think that would go over too well.

[Oak2004]

34. But don't you know, government can do no right, so monitoring of hurricanes

ought to be done voluntarily by private citizens.

I think all of us patriotic Americans should start making voluntary GEOS satellites in our basements from cardboard, tinfoil, and super glue. Do we have a Windows Mobile developer who can write us an athmospheric modeling program for our PDAs? I'll get on it just after I finish my voluntary soda can seismograph and citizen's scrap plastic spectrograph to help monitor volcanic gas emissions.

(just in case someone is not paying attention, this post is full of :sarcasm: Though, unlike the other projects I propose out of my voluntary heart, you can make a simple seismograph at home using a can.)

[Ediacara]

38. It was so ironic that in the VERY SAME SPEECH that he was yammering about Katrina...

He was bitching about monitoring volcanoes.

How the fuck does he think we knew Katrina was coming? How the fuck does he think hurricanes get names? Why the fuck does he think that millions lived?

Could it be GOVERNMENT FUCKING FUNDING???

[Dappleganger]

26. Maybe he should turn off hurricane monitoring for his state...

somehow I don't think that would go over too well.

[Canuckistanian]

27. What's with this criticism of piddling expenses?

McCain did the same thing with "overhead projectors" and Palin with "fruitfly research"

Shit, $140 million is probably the DAILY cost of Halliburton alone.

[Oak2004]

36. They pick out crap that they think sounds stupid

Of course anyone with half a clue recognizes "fruit fly research" as important genetics research and that "overhead projector" as a complex and sophisticated optical device used in teaching science.

What baffles me is, why do they so hate scientific research and science education? If it weren't for scientific research we'd still be stuck in the Dark Ages....

Oh wait. I think I've just answered my question.

[yeswecanandwedid]

29. Not the dumbest...

You must have never heard of this guy..

[GreenPartyVoter]

30. He really said that?! He's gotta be nuts

[Malikshah]

35. We've got to invest in Corks!!! Get them there before they get us here!

What? Are you unpatriotic. All those radical volcanoes!!!!

:)

[Ediacara]

37. LOL!

[Renew Deal]

39. Lets stop hurricane monitoring and see how he feels about it.

Moran!

[RamboLiberal]

41. Yep Bobby - volcano monitoring - no big deal

At 8:32 a.m. on May 18, 1980, a 5.1 magnitude earthquake struck under Mt. St. Helens. Within ten seconds, the bulge and surrounding area fell away in a gigantic, rock avalanche. The avalanche created a gap in the mountain, allowing the release of pent-up pressure that erupted laterally in a huge blast of pumice and ash. The noise from the blast was heard as far away as Montana and California; however, those close to Mt. St. Helens reported hearing nothing.

The avalanche, huge to begin with, quickly grew in size as it crashed down the mountain, traveling around 70 to 150 miles per hour and destroying everything in its path. The blast of pumice and ash traveled northward at 300 miles per hour and was a raging hot 660° F (350° C). The blast killed everything in a 200-square mile area. Within ten minutes, the plume of ash had reached 10 miles high. The eruption lasted nine hours.

For the scientists and others who were caught in the area, there was no way to outrun either the avalanche or the blast. Fifty-seven people were killed. It is estimated that about 7,000 large animals such as deer, elk, and bears were killed and thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of small animals died from the volcanic eruption.

Mt. St. Helens had been surrounded by a lush forest of coniferous trees and numerous clear lakes before the blast. The eruption felled entire forests, leaving only burned tree trunks all flattened in the same direction. The amount of timber destroyed was enough to build about 300,000 two-bedroom homes. A river of mud traveled down the mountain, caused by melted snow and released groundwater, destroying approximately 200 houses, clogging up shipping channels in the Columbia River, and contaminating the beautiful lakes and creeks in the area.

http://history1900s.about.com/od/horribledisasters/p/mtsthelens.htm

At the peak of its popularity in the early 20th century, St. Pierre was known as the Paris of the West Indies, and the flourishing colonial city was home to almost 30,000 inhabitants.

Then on the morning of May 8, 1902, Mount Pelée, on the island of Martinique in the Caribbean Sea, erupted. A giant black plume darkened the sky, while a superheated cloud of hot ash, toxic gases, and magma fragments raced down the volcano's sides at hurricane-force speeds. Within minutes, the city of St. Pierre had been destroyed, its 30,000 inhabitants dead.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0508_020508_pelee.html

[fortyfeetunder]

42. I urge anyone in Alaska, Hawaii, Washington, Wyoming,

and anyone in the surrounding areas from Yellowstone to write Gov Jindal and send him a CLUE by FOUR that they live near volcanoes and we take volcano monitoring seriously, just like his constituents in Louisiana take hurricane monitoring seriously.

Flood his e-mail so he has a clue.

[ddeclue]

43. If the volcano under yellowstone goes, there won't be any more red state voters to vote for Jindal

in 2012...

:eyes: