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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:25 AM
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Yellowstone Caldera (supervolcano) could erupt at any time and obliterate everything for 200 miles..
Perhaps someone can point Governor "Bobby" to this website...

:eyes:

http://www.earthmountainview.com/yellowstone/yellowstone.htm

If it erupts it will obliterate a large portion of the "red" states..THEN who will vote for him in 2012?



http://www.earthmountainview.com/yellowstone/yellowstone.htm





YELLOWSTONE SUPERVOLCANO GETTING READY TO BLOW ITS CORK

updated 1-5-09

compiled by Dee Finney

over 500 Earthquakes at Yellowstone in
the last week
18 earthquakes on January 2, 2009
12 earthquakes on January 1, 2009
58 earthquakes on December 31, 2008
23 Earthquakes on December 30, 2008
38 Earthquakes on December 29, 2008
103 Earthquakes on December 28, 2008



Posted by geologist Christopher C. Sanders on January 1, 2009.

"I am advising all State officials around Yellowstone National Park for a potential State of Emergency. In the last week over 252 earthquakes have been observed by the USGS. We have a 3D view on the movement of magma rising underground. We have all of the pre warning signs of a major eruption from a super volcano. - I want everyone to leave Yellowstone National Park and for 200 miles around the volcano caldera."

ESA satellite reveals Yellowstone's deep secret

Satellite images acquired by ESA's ERS-2 revealed the recently discovered changes in Yellowstone's caldera are the result of molten rock movement 15 kilometres below the Earth's surface, according to a recent study published in Nature.

Using Synthetic Aperture Radar Interferometry, InSAR for short, Charles Wicks, Wayne Thatcher and other U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) scientists mapped the changes in the northern rim of the caldera, or crater, and discovered it had risen about 13 centimetres from 1997 to 2003.

InSAR, a sophisticated version of 'spot the difference', involves mathematically combining different radar images, acquired from as near as possible to the same point in space at different times, to create digital elevation models and reveal otherwise undetectable changes occurring between image acquisitions.

"We know now how mobile and restless the Yellowstone caldera actually is. Ground-based measurements can be more efficiently deployed because of our work," Thatcher said. "The research could not have been done without satellite radar data."

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:31 AM
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1. holey moley!
I had no idea it is this imminent! How influential is Christopher Sanders?
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 12:37 PM
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24. There is no pointers as to whether its imminent
The page linked and referenced here is a tinfoilhattery kind of thing.

I saw that page first when I read about it a month or so ago. And then I researched a bit more.

And from what I can gather there is little reason to believe that it goes off any time soon. And soon in these terms is in any of our or our grandkids' lifetime.

But if it goes, the whole human population is in trouble. Say goodbye to summer and direct sunlight. And as a consequence crops all over the world.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 12:46 PM
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27. Maybe it will go off on Dec. 21, 2012.
:)
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:36 AM
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2. OMFG!! We need PERMANENT TAX CUTS NOW!!!
Sorry, I channeled a typical Republican legislator for a second. My bad.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 08:29 PM
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46. Throw virgin tax cuts into the volcano. NOW! nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:39 AM
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3. There goes all the food......
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:07 AM
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10. Nah, we will still have Georgia Peaches,
Florida Citrus, and Kentucky Weed.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:39 AM
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15. aaaaaand.....
APPLES!!!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:42 AM
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16. Oh yeah. I forgot. The People's Republic of Washington
:P

Washington apples!!!
:9
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:42 AM
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17. That's right!!! And Hops, too!!!!
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:40 PM
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32. As long as we still have hops
it's all good.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:05 PM
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36. Yep.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:44 AM
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4. From this map, I'd say Gov. Jindal just took a header into the "Huckleberry Ash Bed"!
yikes! and I saw a program about Krakatoa (and how it could happen again, and what it would do to a more modern world) tonight on History channel.

Opie Jindal is effin' with my volcanic monitoring, and I don't like it ONE BIT!
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:46 AM
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5. Comparing Krakatoa to Yellowstone would be like comparing an A bomb to an H bomb.
Krakatoa would be a very small fraction of what would happen if Yellowstone goes.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:52 AM
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6. My point is that there are volcanoes all over the place that could go at any time ... Alaska, too ..
... and Bobby Jindal is MOCKING money for volcanic monitoring.

A supervolcano will make Katrina look like a puddle, Governor!
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:55 AM
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7. and Hawaii and Oregon and Washington state too...
Mt. Rainer would be a bad one to go.

Doug D.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:03 AM
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8. Bobby Jindal volcano cartoon!
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:10 AM
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11. More like Governor Bobby leaped into the volcano on his own. nt
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 02:16 AM by ddeclue
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:13 AM
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12. He has BECOME the Huckleberry Ridge Ash Bed.
(I just love saying Huckleberry Ridge Ash Bed)!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 07:01 PM
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44. Ahah! *That's* who he reminds me of!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:58 PM
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34. ha ha ha


:rofl:


hmm, seems some Reps don't really like the Gov - putting him out there to flail around like that.... :yoiks:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 12:11 PM
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23. We've been "monitoring" one for several weeks even now.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:06 AM
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9. Just look how large the ash bed foot prints are for YS vs. Mt. Saint Helens
Everybody remembers how spectacular Mt. Saint Helens seemed when it erupted but it's nothing compared to a caldera eruption.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 06:58 PM
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43. Yellowstone would move 1000 times the material
1000 cubic kilometers of material blown all over half the US.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:34 AM
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13. I for one welcome our new supervolcano overlords.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:36 AM
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14. It would give new meaning to "flyover country"..
but on the other hand all that volcanic ash would clog your plane's engines if you tried to fly over it.

:hide:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 11:39 AM
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21. lol
:rofl:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:51 AM
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18. If that's true, then we have a world altering event....
IIRC St. Helens changed the weather for a couple of years.

As an aside--

I watched St Helens go from the parking lot of Chuckles restaurant and lounge in NW portland, Oregon

I had an EXCELLENT view.

Sitting on a chaise lounge with a drink in hand while the kids who owned the dump moved the sound system outside and played Hawaiian music. Fabulous.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 12:40 PM
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25. If it goes
.. run out and get your hands on ALL the canned food you can get. :)

Its 40000 years late, guys! (which in this case is a completely bogus calculation, before someone corrects me :) )
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:01 PM
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29. NAH, If it goes I'll just bend over and kiss my ass goodbye.....
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:49 PM
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33. At least you go quickly
I am in upstate NY, and I have a feeling I won't survive the 20 feet snow storms we will get the winter after it blows.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:04 PM
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35. Yep - the Nuclear winter would be a bitch.
I wonder if that's why there is a huge push to collect and preserve all the seeds available......

:tinfoilhat:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 11:34 AM
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19. I thought it would destroy all of North America if it blows and cover the sky with
ash all over the world..for a decade. NO?
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 12:42 PM
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26. Give or take some years, yes. And it might not _destroy_ all of NA
But it won't be a nice place to live.

Isn't it nice to know we have about 6 to 8 of these babies around the world? :)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:01 PM
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28. I thought it was only two supervolcanoes. Yellowstone and Toba
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 07:02 PM
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45. Here's Wikipedia's take on it:
Known super eruptions

Estimates of the volume of ejected material are given in parentheses.

VEI-8 eruptions have happened in the following locations.

Lake Taupo, North Island, New Zealand - Oruanui eruption ~26,500 years ago (~1,170 km3)
Lake Toba, Sumatra, Indonesia - ~75,000 years ago (~2,800 km3)
Whakamaru, North Island, New Zealand - Whakamaru Ignimbrite/Mount Curl Tephra ~254,000 years ago (1,200-2,000 km3)<6>
Yellowstone Caldera, Wyoming, United States - 640,000 years ago (1,000 km3)
Island Park Caldera, Idaho/Wyoming, United States - 2.1 million years ago(2,500 km3)
Kilgore Tuff, Idaho, United States - 4.5 million years ago (1,800 km3)
Black Tail Creek, Idaho, United States - 6.6 million years ago (1,500 km3)
La Garita Caldera, Colorado, United States - Source of the truly enormous eruption of the Fish Canyon Tuff ~27.8 million years ago (~5,000 km3)


VEI-7 volcanic events, less colossal but still supermassive, have occurred in the geological past. The only ones in historic times are Tambora, in 1815, Lake Taupo (Hatepe), around 180 AD,<13> and possibly Baekdu Mountain, around 979 AD.<14>

Tambora, West Nusa Tenggara, Indonesia - 1815 (160 km3)
Baekdu Mountain, China/North Korea - ~969 AD (96±19 km3)
Lake Taupo, North Island, New Zealand - Hatepe eruption ~181 C.E. (120 km3)<13>
Kikai Caldera, Ryukyu Islands, Japan - ~6,300 years ago (~ 4,300 BC) (150 km3)
Campi Flegrei, Naples, Italy - ~12,000 years ago (~ 10,000 BC) (Could be as much as 300 km3)
Aira Caldera, Kyūshū, Japan - ~22,000 years ago (~ 20,000 BC) (~110 km3)
Reporoa caldera, New Zealand - 230,000 years ago (~100 km3)
Aso, Kyūshū, Japan - four large explosive eruptions between 300,000 to 80,000 years ago (last one > 600 km3)
Long Valley Caldera, California, United States - ~760,000 years ago (600 km3)
Valles Caldera, New Mexico, United States - ~1.12 million years ago (~600 km3)
Mangakino, North Island, New Zealand - three eruptions from 0.97 to 1.23 million years ago (each > 300 km3)<15>
Henry's Fork Caldera, Idaho, United States - 1.3 million years ago (280 km3)
Walcott Tuff, Idaho, United States - 6.4 million years ago (750 km3)
Bennett Lake Volcanic Complex, British Columbia/Yukon, Canada - ~50 million years ago (850 km3)
Bruneau-Jarbidge, Idaho, United States - ~10-12 million years ago (>250 km3) (responsible for the Ashfall Fossil Beds ~1,600 km to the east<16>)
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 11:36 AM
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20. I would like to thank Bobby Jindal for inadvertantly raising awareness of the importance
of volcano monitoring.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 12:00 PM
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22. No kidding right?
What a doofus...
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:23 PM
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30. That message from the "geologist" was a fake
If you're trying to scare people, please use actual information.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 06:07 PM
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40. Nope...go check out the USGS.gov site for yellowstone
they had hundreds of small earthquakes in December and January and this is a real possibility.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:34 PM
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31. If the Yellowstone supervolcano blows, most of North America is wiped out
Or buried under volcanic ash. It would be a world-altering event. Probably a mass-extinction kind of event.

I love the Discovery Channel. And the History Channel.

Bake
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:06 PM
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37. So what you're saying is no mag-lev train to Disneyland then?
:rofl:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:21 PM
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38. Probably not.
:hi:

Bake
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:00 PM
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39. Yep, we've seen those shows. I can tell you a lot about disasters scenarios all because
I have two little boys. :P
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:18 AM
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47. Hey ... Yellowstone can't blow yet ... it has to wait until Dec. 21, 2012 ...
... the end of the Mayan calendar. The prediction of the I Ching. The predictions in the Bible. The 13 Crystal Skulls.

History channel has me up to speed on doomsday, big time!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 06:31 PM
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41. When the Yellowstone super volcano blow,
We can pretty much kiss civilization as we know it on the entire planet goodbye. Yes, pockets of humanity will survive, but most people will suffer a slow death of starvation as a cloud of ash is suspended in the sky for years.

Most people's only hope is to either store enough food, or have enough hydroponics equipment and supplies to be able to ride out the years until we get sunlight again.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:28 PM
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49. Hey, man ... I've got a lot of lentils.
But I'd probably off myself from severe Seasonal Affective Disorder long before I got to eat them. :(
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 06:50 PM
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42. We'd all be asphyxiated from the ashes/gases/cloud cover. This is not a funny topic to the
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 06:55 PM by WinkyDink
scientists monitoring.
Actually, this frightens me very much.

I hope the 2 competing super-colliders don't trigger anything.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:23 AM
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48. I'm an engineer and I take it seriously... It's JINDAL I don't take seriously...
:rofl:
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