It Sickens Me That MSM Is Trying To Say Dems Are Against Pres. Obama's Iraqi Withdrawal......

[global1]

they keep bringing up Schumer, Pelosi and Reid as being upset with the fact that Our Commander-in-Chief will leave a residual force of up to 50,000 in Iraq and that he has push out the withdrawal for 3 additional months than what he originally stated during the campaign.

Well Schumer, Pelosi and Reid aren't the Commander-In-Chief - President Obama is. If he says we need 3 additional months and up to 50,000 troops still there - then - so be it. He is the one that has the most info and has to make the decision.

Looks like MSM is trying to divide the Dems with this decision. It won't work.

I would have liked to have gotten all our troops out of Iraq and yesterday - but if our President wants it to go this way - I'll support it and so should everyone else.

[jsamuel]

1. No, not everyone "should" support what the president wants.

Its called democracy. The "Democra" in Democratic Party. Three co-equal branches. The congress has a responsibility to push for what they think is best even if it conflicts with President Obama's wishes. Now on this specific issue, I imagine Obama got the 50,000 and 16 month recommendation from the generals, so I can understand his position.

[NRaleighLiberal]

2. From what I've seen in the past two years, it is worth watching Obama operate - and trust him.

He is playing the flustered right and the media like a Steinway. He has the country behind him.

I am going to chill out a bit and let our president do his thing.....and beam in admiration! Yes, hope is a very, very nice thing to experience.

[TheCoxwain]

3. spot on ..... He has more IQ than all the pukes combined .. and the pukes know it

and it burns them up ... I am enjoying this

[thunder rising]

4. I support Obama ...because that's the issue I voted for and he best answered.

[BuyingThyme]

5. How is 50,000 a "residual force"?

That's like calling Newt Gingrich a skidmark.

[fugop]

6. Good for Dems

I'm a liberal through and through. I don't always love Schumer, Pelosi and Reid, but they're still my people. On the other hand, any time the MSM can tell the public that those three disagree with President Obama apparently is good for President Obama, since many of the middle-of-the-road folks that voted for Obama in November are more enthralled with him by far than they are with the other Dems in power. It just bolsters the good will toward Prez Obama held by people like my mother, who's more center of the road. She still will go on and on about how she dislikes Pelosi and Reid, but she's loving Obama. I sense a lot of others like her will decide the more Pelosi and Reid disagree with Obama, the more they like him and what he's doing.

[Numba6]

7. cause it's a "man bites dog" story

& meaningless... but that's what the MSM (as well as the NSM like Huffington or dailykos or politico) do

The Prez always said he'd w/ draw in an orderly way, taking into account troop safety & security concerns.

Bush broke it (Iraq), but we can't just walk away from it tomorrow. Pulling out in a precipitous and dangerous way would just open the door for retaliation and blood in the streets.

No one remembers Saigon? & what happened to our "collaborators" who were left to fend for themselves?




Regardless of what anyone thinks of the war, there are Iraqi people who worked w/ US forces, and were given NO PROTECTION from our military (outside the embassy green zone) under Bush, because the chickenhawks didn't give a damn about people there who were actually helping them (unless they could prop them up as neoconservative stooges/"leaders")

& there were NO PLANS developed to help them when we pull out.

I don't know if his plans are better than Pelosi, Kucinich, or whomever -- I only know he knows far more about it than me, & has greater responsibilities than Pelosi, Kucinich, or any other member of Congress who would want something faster.

I expect to continue to hear the MSM -- even including jesters like Tweety or Keith Olberman or Rachel Maddow -- try to make hay w/ this. They kow people have short memories, even if they ever did know what Obama's policies actually are.

The uber-progressives and jesters will claim the Prez is somehow dissing the base or "breaking" a campaign promise by continuting to follow the principles he laid out over the last 2 years, because it's in their own interests to invent controversy.

[FrenchieCat]

8. The media's only hope to bring Obama's poll numbers down

is to erode support in his base.

They are trying hard, but thus far, nothing heard but a great big thud!

I'm sure they will keep trying, and I'm sure that there will be some
who take the bait.....just not enough.

It must be very frustrating for a media who is accustomed to directing public opinion.
And the bad part about it for them, it is not for the lack of trying.

There is hope though! They got it down to 59%, until our President spoke....
but shit, that took Republican assholes on the TV for weeks in a row, and a few media lies.

[Aloha Spirit]

9. It's weird to write that we should support him because he's the President. Dissent is good

And the fact that the media reports it one way or another... well, I think the President's team is getting a pretty good sense of when they need to step in and address the public interpretation of news stories.

Remember when Bush was President, everybody wanted to agree with him, including the press to the extent that they didn't challenge him at all.

I do hope that Obama continues to reach out to the public directly, as he will this evening on Jim Lehrer's newshour.

[FrenchieCat]

10. Thanks for reminding me about his newshour interview this afternoon!

[Vinca]

11. MSM doesn't understand that Democrats, unlike Republicans,

are not sheep. We discuss, we hash it over, we disagree, we fight. It doesn't mean there's a great big, giant split in the party.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. Ur dead balls on.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

13. Self-Parody much?

"Well Schumer, Pelosi and Reid aren't the Commander-In-Chief - President Bush is. If he says we need 3 additional months and up to 50,000 troops still there - then - so be it. He is the one that has the most info and has to make the decision."



There's not enough ROFL in the world...

[flpoljunkie]

14. Then vote in CNN's poll.

What do you think of President Obama’s new plan to have U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by August 2010?


Too long to wait 24% 37893
Too soon 21% 33791
Just right 55% 86884

Total Votes: 158568

htttp://www.cnn.com

[asphalt.jungle]

15. unfortunately they sat by while we got into this crap in the first place

so now it's up to someone who was strongly against it (and has more credibility) to get us out responsibly. you don't pull the top off a pressure cooker, you tilt it and let out the steam slowly.

[Still Sensible]

16. It's okay for democrats to disagree with the President

the problem here is the way the MSM is portraying it--like it is some big rift in the party. It's not. Some democrats simply disagree with the President leaving that many troops in Iraq after the "combat" withdrawal... and they are saying so.

Unfortunately the MSM has gotten used to a lockstep GOP that--if they were questioning one of Bush's policies, it would have been signs of a big rift... which by the way there was when the GOP was strongly against Bush on immigration policy, as well as when McCain and others railed about Abu Ghraib.

I guess the thing the MSM needs to get used to is that we democrats do not require lockstep subservience like the Cheney-controlled GOP of the last 8 years.

[Still Sensible]

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