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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:15 PM
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McCain disagrees with Obama on Afghanistan- Wants More than 17000 Troops
McCain Says More U.S. Troops Needed to Prevail in Afghanistan


By Edwin Chen

Feb. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Senator John McCain said the U.S. will need to send additional troops to Afghanistan beyond the 17,000 that President Barack Obama has ordered. And he foresees an American military presence there for at least a decade.

Deteriorating conditions in Afghanistan, especially in the south, will require “more than a surge” of troops, he said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt,” scheduled to air today. “It’s going to be long and hard and tough.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aVkKul0S8kMA
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Afghanistan is going to be a tough campaign because there are no sectarian tribes with whom to make alliances like in Iraq...and no basic economy (except the poppy/heroin economy) to sustain the Afghans during this effort.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:23 PM
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1. Why does the media think we care what McCain says?
They run to him for a comment on everything Obama does. He's nothing but a Senator. He's not even in Leadership in the Senate
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:24 PM
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2. I have an ever-popular "what-if" question...
If McCain had won the election, would the MSM be conducting regular interviews with Obama about what he thought the GOP should or shouldn't be doing?

Of course, I kid.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:24 PM
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3. Anyone know how many troops McCain wants in Pakistan? n/t
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:18 PM
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12. It does not matter how many McLame wants.
Now that there is a sensible President, the Allies of the US are ready to help.

That WOULD NOT have happened, had America gone down the route of a 3rd Rethug term.


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=ahRBSXt2OOLQ


Gates Says NATO Allies to Boost Afghan Aid, Trainers (Update2)
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By James G. Neuger and Ken Fireman

Feb. 20 (Bloomberg) -- NATO allies pledged to send more military trainers to Afghanistan and step up civilian aid in response to the U.S. troop buildup to fight the Taliban, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said.

Gates said the pledges at a North Atlantic Treaty Organization meeting in Krakow, Poland, today mark a “good start” in the Obama administration’s campaign for a beefed-up European role in Afghanistan.

“Nineteen or 20 countries announced at one point or another that they would be increasing their contribution on either the civilian or the military training side,” Gates told a press conference after the two-day meeting. NATO has 26 member states.

President Barack Obama this week ordered an additional 17,000 U.S. soldiers to Afghanistan, adding to pressure on European allies to bolster their role in the war against the Taliban, now in its eighth year.

Gates declined to criticize European governments that have refused to boost their military contingents, saying economic and reconstruction aid is equally important.

“We are making a substantial addition to the military side and if other countries are unable to strengthen their military commitment but they are willing and able to make a contribution on the stability side, on the development, governance side, those contributions would be very welcome,” Gates said.

Afghan Army Expands

NATO is pouring resources into building up Afghanistan’s army, slated to grow from 79,300 soldiers now to 134,000 by the end of 2011. The alliance now has 49 teams training Afghan recruits, and needs to add 20 more.

A 25,000-strong U.S. contingent forms the core of NATO’s force in Afghanistan, with roughly 13,000 more U.S. troops conducting counterterrorism missions independently of alliance command. The rest of NATO has fielded 31,000 troops, led by 8,300 from the U.K.

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell later provided details on the commitments for Afghanistan made at the Krakow conference. He said 10 nations agreed to send extra troops to help provide security for the August elections. He said the biggest commitment came from Germany, which agreed to send 600 additional troops. He declined to name the other nations because they have not yet announced their commitments.

Morrell said three countries agreed to provide additional air assets, consisting of cargo planes and fighter jets, for the election security effort, and five are sending medical teams.

Other Commitments

Other commitments obtained at Krakow for Afghanistan included 15 additional teams to train Afghan security forces and five nations agreeing to send more helicopters, Morrell said.

Financial commitments at Krakow included 5 million Euros ($6.42 million) to pay the costs of election security, 2 million Euros ($2.57 million) for expanding the size of the Afghan army, 2 million Euros ($2.57 million) to support civilian services and 2.5 million Euros ($3.21 million) to buy more helicopters for Afghan security forces, Morrell said.

Separately, NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said that Ukraine, an ex-Soviet republic bidding to join the alliance, made a “highly appreciated” offer to add to its unit of 10 advisers in Afghanistan.

Gates said the U.S. will complete its review of Afghan policy in time to consult allies and request new commitments before Obama attends his first NATO summit on April 3-4.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:36 PM
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4. What is he suppose to be..
the final authority on what Obama should do..I am so tired of the media trying to define what Obama needs to do and who he should talk to on any matter..I hope the people in Arizona get the message that McCain needs to retire..
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:42 PM
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5. Has anyone told him that he lost the election and that we do not care? nt
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:43 PM
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6. Sure John
As soon as you tell us how to win the war and where we can find Bin Laden!

That is what he said during the campaign, isn't it?
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:57 PM
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7. Remember, McSame was going to look for Bin Laden in the gates of Hell...
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:58 PM
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8. Who?????
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:03 PM
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9. It will be more than 17,000. This is just the first shipment of the surge.
It will be around 30,000 when all are in place. This has been said for some time, mcLame is just saying this so he can claim it was his idea later.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:05 PM
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10. You're right, McAmbien is such a self-servig fool
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:14 PM
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11. Tough, McCain...elections have consequences..you lost
now shut-up.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:34 PM
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13. Everybody knew that 17,000 was only a start.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:47 PM
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14. That's nice
I care.

No, I really do!


:rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:51 PM
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15. The liar lost...
That ONE WON.
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