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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:39 PM Original message |
I'm sorry, but the merit pay issue is my first big disagreement with President Obama. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't support it if they don't give each teacher the ground work to win. 40 to 1 student teacher |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. As I understand it, Obama's merit-pay idea doesn't rely on standardized tests... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Not really. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Obama plans on using the Denver Merit pay rules, from another thread... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. THAT system sounds good. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Yes. Denver is really hurting economically right now. But with Federal |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Indeed? Our new CO senator was an architect of that here. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. A's all around! n/t |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Imagine what that means. If you have the average class in America |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. 8) Get rid of the bad kids; the troublemakers who sell drugs, start fights and refuse to learn |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. My program would get those kids probably. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Yeah, and the DUMB ones, too! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. No teacher ever wants to be judged by their results. Yes, we know that. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Are you a teacher? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. I was. For about 7-8 years. Why do you ask? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Just asking, since a lot of people who know nothing about the field... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Ah. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. Did you not know that was his position? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. does that mean the OP isn't entitled to an opinion? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Did I say that? Obviously, the point escapes you. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. even if the the OP "just discovered" Obama's position |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. I knew it was his position |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. He supports merit pay. Still |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. the fact is he has yet to define it or even say if he will |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. Your suggestions are good ones! |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. A change I'd like to see in schools is ZERO tolerance for bullies... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I think that's a good idea. My program actually specifically targets bullying... |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. Same here. |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
14. "It's time to start rewarding good teachers, stop making excuses for bad ones" |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
21. No need to say sorry |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
23. Campaigned about merit, but having better way of measuring than student tests. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. If I don't get the merit, no one does. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Personally? I don't really care. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
25. Did you not know this was the way he leaned on this issue before now? |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
28. Well, there is some truth to what you say but some whining, too. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
29. He's doing all of those things, except getting rid of NCLB |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
32. How do you grade your students ... |
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sohndrsmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
37. First off, I admit to being really ignorant on this matter (so I'm posting to ask a question): |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
38. But the big difference is that Obama ENCOURAGES discussion of alternative plans to his. |
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trayfoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
39. Good post! I, also, split with President Obama on this issue. |
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