Rush Limbaugh: "I'm getting worried. I don't want Clark creeping up...

[Jack_Dawson]

I want it to be Dean."

Add another to the Delay, Carlson, Novak, and Safire pile of Dean endorsements.

www.wjno.com

[redqueen]

1. GET OUT!

He did not say that! Did he?

:wow:

[Jack_Dawson]

2. He just said it. About 3 minutes ago.

www.wjno.com

[redqueen]

10. OMFG

OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG

I don't even know what to say.

Stunned, I am.

on edit: I am so freaking happy I can't even tell you.

They are scared witless, and it's thanks to the outpouring of anger and hope and dissatisfaction of mainly progressives, but also conservatives.

I'm so happy I'm singing!!!!

~Let the sun shine.... Let the sun shine... The sun... Shine in....~

[cthrumatrix]

13. it's called "reverse psychology"....when do you believe ANYTHING

this man says....

Translation === vote for Clark ...so Bush can win.

[redqueen]

18. I call it 'desperation'

All these right-wing whackos are going off the deep end trying to do anything they can to defuse the support behind ANY of our candidates.

I sense their fear, and I'm lovin it!

[LandOLincoln]

36. Complete rot.

How quickly you all forget that they were openly and vociferously ecstatic about NADER in 2000. Reverse psychology me arse.

[Tweed]

43. Hello?

You say that like Rush is speaking to Democrats! He knows his audience. Rush speaks what he believes to be the truth and always gives what his honest beliefs. He isn't trying to get Republicans to vote for anyone but Bush.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

3. Isn't Savage now endorsing Clark?

This is getting very interesting.

[Jack_Dawson]

4. No Savage isn't endorsing Clark. Savage wants Dean to win

"So we can set the Democrats back another 100 years."

That was sometime in early November.

[adamrsilva]

5. He said Clark could beat Bush yesterday

He's mad over the immigration reform proposal, and says he won't vote for Bush.

[Hoppin_Mad]

He said he might vote Dem and Clark could win - Do the math -eom-

[TLM]

28. Seems the meme is out with the talking head conservatives...

Say you fear Clark and want Dean because he'd be easy to beat.

[cthrumatrix]

31. Memo's to all Clear Channel --- we want Clark --- signed Rove

[jcgadfly]

6. I'm beginning to think

that the GOP will be happy with any of the frontrunners.

They already have ammunition to use against them (much of which brought to them by overzealous supporters of the individual candidates).

What they don't have, they'll just make up like they did with many of the items brought against Gore.

[redqueen]

15. But don't you see? It doesn't matter!

ALL the candidates could beat the shrub. ALL of them.

I have absolutely no doubt that Rush said this to try to defuse Dean's strong support.

The chimp in charge has alienated:

conservatives
libertarians
independents
'Reagan Democrats'
and just about everybody else in the country / world

He has absolutely no one in his corner but the hard-core Bush Party Loyalists who will vote for him no matter what, and the corporocrats who are dependent on thieves of either party to keep their pipeline to our treasury intact. And guess what: they're the tiny minority.

This is GREAT NEWS!

[jcgadfly]

30. I try to see that

I'm just getting tired of the battles.

[thedudeingeorgia]

25. What would the GOP have on Clark?

What could the GOP have on Clark? ...other than made up garbage. I wonder if they plan on questioning his patriotism. I hope they do, so he can rightfully defend himself....

[jcgadfly]

32. One possibility

Wasn't he on camera with glowing words for the Bush administration before his candidacy, saying they "needed to be there (in power)"?

You don't think the GOP would use that?

[JaneQPublic]

38. Why would Repukes reveal who they REALLY do/don't want?

I thought they were supposed to be more politically savvy and sneaky than that.

It seems rather unfathonable that they would HONESTLY proclaim to the world which candidate they fear and which they prefer as their opponent.

[jcgadfly]

39. Which is what many here are saying

They're saying that when the GOP says, "Candidate X is a threat" they mean "We think Bush can drive him into the ground like a tent peg.".

I'm saying that they're already well-prepared for any Democratic candidate because of the ammuniton that candidates' supporters have brought forward in attack posts and flyers (God help me, I've done it too) or the crap that they'll make up.

I'm not sure I care who wins anymore.

[JaneQPublic]

35. Here's what the GOP has on Clark:

From the RNC website. And yes, most of it is "made up garbage." But then, so isn't the stuff they post for each of the Dem candidates. So wasn't the stuff they used to bring Gore down in the polls.

http://www.rnc.org/Newsroom/RNCResearch/Clark.htm

[windansea]

7. must....take....more.....oxy...

:nuke:

[David__77]

8. egads...

I think this whole line of reasoning is flawed:

1) Right-wingers should be wary of what they wish for.

2) Democrats better realize that, regardless of who is the nominee, the party is dead in the long-term without a radical break with the so-called establishment consensus.

I support Dean. I do not oppose Clark. I simply believe that Dean will do more to rebuild the party and the progressive and peoples' movements.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

19. But is he going to rip apart the other 80% of the party. We need indys

and perhaps a few Repubs.

I work with a group called Republicans, Independents and Democrats for Change and they ALL state that they like Clark and will vote for him. We have some Dean people - but not nearly as many. They all like Clark/Dean - with Dean as V.P.

In addition, I have talked several Republicans who are fed up with Bush into voting for Clark. I can't convince them to vote for anyone else. A few have flatly said that they would NOT vote for Dean if he was the nominee...

[Walt Starr]

9. No no no, Br'er Fox. Don't throw me in that briar patch!

:)

[Padraig18]

11. I don't give a flying fuck what OxyRush thinks about ANYTHING!

:grr:

[adamrsilva]

12. Pundits should be careful what they wish for...

Nice comic on the subject:

[Hoppin_Mad]

14. Why would you listen to that drug-addled hate-spouting repuke ? -nt-

[Jack_Dawson]

20. Keep thy enemies close...

It's also fun to listen to him dance around the Bush immigration bill.

[TLM]

22. Because they share the same opinion...

Sad when you have to quote Rush BS about Dean not being able to win in order to push your candidate.

As if Rush would make honest commentary about the chances of the dem candidate.

Dean scares the hell out of them and they're trying to play it off.

[yellowcanine]

16. The briar patch reference is exactly right.

Rush must think we are imbeciles. Course they all want Dean. OK then.

[Forkboy]

17. Using Rush to help shlep your choice

is really sad.

[Jack_Dawson]

21. LOL - please

Just illustrating ONCE AGAIN that conservatives want no part of Clark. Find me ONE conservative personality who wants Bush to face Clark.

[TLM]

23. NO! Conservatives SAY they want Dean and are afraid of Clark...

Since when have these assholes ever told the truth?


Dean scares them...bad.

They want Clark because they want an election focused all on defense and security and fear. Clark helps them do exactly that and they know they can beat him with endless ads of Clark praising Bush on defense issues.

[Jack_Dawson]

27. Oh dear

<buries head in hands>

:eyes:

[TLM]

29. Hands? I think you meant SAND.

[Forkboy]

24. I dont think Bush wants to face any of them

except for Lieberman,who they will steamroll.

[movonne]

26. You can't possibly believe anything Rush said...

If he said it, it is probably what he wants.

[Zomby Woof]

33. all of Dean's money

And his hardcore supporters won't be enough to overcome his own defects, the Rove attack machine aside. Dean is his own worst enemy, with his lack of readiness, his gaffes, and his inability to define himself. *hack* 'Scuse me.

With Dean, there is no there, there. The dittoheads can sense his weaknesses and hope to exploit them.

Let's not give them the satisfaction. Do NOT vote for Dean in the primaries. (That is not directed at you, but rather, my loyal audience who can't wait to read me every day). ;-)

[windansea]

34. woof

[bowens43]

37. Hope they Donate!!!

We could use the cash!!

[MIMStigator]

40. Oxy Rush doesn't speak in code to his dumbass followers

eom

[TreasonousBastard]

41. To me...

and I don't claim to know any more than anyone else talking about this (which seems to be very little) there are a number of possibilities for this chiming in about Dean from the opposition.

Aside from them just liking to yak about things and stir the pot, I'm leaning toward the idea that they are really hedging their bets with Dean.

I know a few conservative Republicans in Vermont, and they think rather highly of him. I hear he got on rather well with the Republicans after they got to know him.

Adding it all up, I think there are a lot of Republicans not wedded to Bush who don't like him all that much and think there's a good chance he'll go down in flames next year. Perhaps quite a few of them would be perfectly happy to see him to go down in flames.

Dean as the Democrat would either lose, which they could live with since they still have the devil they know; or win, which would be OK because they figure they could work with him more easily than any of the rest of the crew.

Going one step further, they might actually think so highly of Dean as someone they could work with that they will actively sabotage the Bush campaign, even if not coming out for Dean directly.

I am reasonably convinced that there is a large contingent of legitimately conservative (i.e.- not wingnut) Republicans who are aghast at much of what is going on. Dean is very likely the one Democratic candidate they could rally around.

[Hoppin_Mad]

42. Why did you just start ANOTHER of these threads ? -eom-

[Moderator]

44. Dupe, consolidating...

Please continue discussion here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=82363&mesg_id=82363

Thanks,

DU Moderator