Dean/Clark brokered convention

[ringmastery]

OK, I first thought this was crazy talk, but with Clark's recent rise in the polls, this scenario seems to be getting more and more likely.

Dean wins Iowa and NH but does not meet "media" expectations and tears him down like the media likes to tear people down. Clark places second in NH and becomes the new "comeback kid" and rides high into February 3rd primaries winning S. Carolina. After that other candidates drop out and it becomes a two-man horse race and a battle, but there is no winner.

The party is split beween the center left and the fringe left. Clark and Dean enter the convention without the required number of delegates needed to win. Thus, the convention has to be brokered.

Who gets the nomination?

[Jack_Dawson]

1. Clark - unless we want our heads kicked in

You can bet Rove would want to cast a vote in THAT scenario

[Printer70]

23. Conservative media talking point

"Dean can't win." Dean repeatedly stacks up best against Bush of any of the Dem candidates, INCLUDING clark.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

27. Once in ONE poll.

In addition, Clark has nowhere to go but up. He is NOT a known quantity. Dean has nowhere to go but down.

[Printer70]

28. No, Time CNN poll

validated NBC News poll from Dec 14 which also showed Dean with the best showing. The simple fact is that some of you have been co-opted by the spin of the Right ("that Dean can't win").

[Jack_Dawson]

30. Did you say December 14th?

A lot's happened since then.

[Printer70]

33. Which is why the Jan 1 poll substantiates Dean's "electability"

In that Time CNN poll, Dean is just six points back while Clark lags by 10 points. So much for the only thing Clark has going for him, "electability".

[dave29]

2. Ok I'll do it

I'll quit my job and become President. I don't have much foreign or economic experience, but for the sake of my party, I'll stop the madness.

Thank you
and God Bless America.

[WillyT]

21. That's It, I'm Votin Dave29 in '04, LOL !!!

Love your platform too! "I'll stop the madness."

:toast::kick::toast:

[ClarkGraham2004]

3. Hopefully Clark gets the nod.

I'd like for Democrats to be relevant again.

[Lobo_13]

32. We've tried that and it didn't work

Democrats won't become relevant by becoming Republicans.

[KaraokeKarlton]

4. Dean has the most super delegates of all the candidates right now

Clark has very, very few.

:shrug:

[ClarkGraham2004]

7. What do you mean?

[KaraokeKarlton]

19. It means that if it comes down to Dean and Clark at the convention

Dean has a huge advantage if there is a brokered convention.

[jmaier]

13. Somewhat

surprising situation for the handpicked candidate of the DLC/DNC, Clintonistas or whomever. LOL

[dave29]

20. Yes it is

very surprising ;)

[BootinUp]

18. That can change

Months before they will be voting, anything can happen.

[Sagan]

5. I think money would have to play a factor here...

If Dean has a bajillion dollars and is fundraising like mad, and Clark is poking along and is constrained by public funding limits, then you'd have to give the nod to Dean, I would think.

I'm NOT saying that is what would happen, the opposite very well could. But I think this is something that would be looked at.

[saltpoint]

6. If we're brokered in Boston --

-- Al Gore's phone rings first.

[chimpymustgo]

9. Unfortunately, Big Al resigned as party statesman to work for Dean.

Too bad.

[saltpoint]

14. It would not preclude his --

--being chosen by convention delegates. Nor would it preclude his choosing Dean or anyone else as his VP nominee.

[ewagner]

8. I'm in favor of a brokered convention

Because in order for somebody to win, they are going to have to cut a deal with the other party. That being the case, it will enforce unity. I don't care which of the two get the nod as long as they cut the damned deal!!!!

12. if you think about it

A brokered convention, in principal, is really what it's all about.
Like in the old days!
If the primaries decide everything why even bother having a convention except for p.r. and a party?

[robbedvoter]

10. My head explodes whenever I see the 2 names and a / in between

Please use "and" "&" or other symbols less reminiscent of the latest manipulation/idiocy.
And I see a Clark sweep. But that's just me.

[deminflorida]

11. Notice this post Dean/Clark....

Nice try, nope you all are going to face the voters just like everybody else. Nice try, however....

[worldgonekrazy]

15. "fringe left"?

You lost me there bucko.

[ClarkGraham2004]

17. You know, the folks who want to run our Party off a cliff?

Those guys.

[worldgonekrazy]

22. As opposed to the guys that want to yank our party further right?

n/t

[dolstein]

24. You mean back to the middle, where Clinton was?

NT

[David Zephyr]

16. It Will Be Dean/Clark or Clark Dean, But There Will Be No Brokering.

One will have a majority in Boston, but the other will have a convention full of his delegates as well.

The Clark/Dean or Dean/Clark ticket will be impossible to avoid.

And there will be a huge coming together of the two camps in Boston.

So fight on now...and may the best one win, but these two will be our ticket...it's just the order that's the question now.

But there will be no brokering. Don't even worry about it.

[Sagan]

25. I'm with you, Zeph..

And I'm happy either way. ABB baby.

[David Zephyr]

29. And I'm With Sagan.

Austin rocks! :hi:

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. Clark.

This was mentioned a while ago by someone here and he said we would have 2 candidates going to the convention. Clark wins.

[arewethereyet]

31. Edwards as they both will be crumbling

I'm seeing a three horse race for a while (Edwards, Kerry, Gephardt) with Edwards my favorite but Kerry's matching funds idea may give him an edge.