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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 10:57 PM
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TIME: Health Lessons from Europe
Wednesday, May. 20, 2009
Health Lessons from Europe
By Eben Harrell / Copenhagen

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Denmark: Electronic records save money and improve outcomes

At the Frederiksberg University Hospital in Copenhagen, there are no clipboards. Instead, doctors and nurses carry wireless handheld computers to call up the medical records of each patient, including their prescription history and drug allergies. If a doctor prescribes a medication that may cause complications, the PDA's alarm goes off... President Obama recently pledged $19 billion to computerize America's medical records by 2014. Denmark has already made the transition. The country has a centralized computer database to which 98% of primary care physicians, all hospital physicians and all pharmacists now have access... Now, instead of a single system, record-keeping utilizes various compatible systems, linking networks established by regional health agencies.

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Germany: Easing the burden of chronic disease; strengthening peer review

Sudden illness may be what scares most people, but chronic conditions place the greatest strain on health care. Around 75% of the U.S.'s $2 trillion annual health-care expenditure goes toward ailments such as heart disease, asthma, diabetes and certain cancers, and the vast majority of that is spent when these conditions require hospitalization and emergency care. The problem is particularly acute in the U.S. public sector: over 20% of U.S. Medicare patients have five or more chronic illnesses... The solutions can be as simple as educating patients about their condition, having nurses call patients to make sure they are staying on top of their medication and allowing doctors to compare their success rate with other physicians... The challenge is finding the funding to implement such schemes. In America's health system, there are few financial incentives for providers to take proactive measures to keep people healthy: the longer and more extensively a doctor or hospital treats a patient, the more income they recoup... In 2007, Geisinger Health System began a pilot program in Pennsylvania, hiring nurses to check on patients with diabetes, heart disease and other chronic ailments, as well as linking 20% of physician income to targets in areas such as patient weight loss, smoking cessation and cholesterol levels. After the first year of the study, hospitals reported a 20% fall in admissions in the area and health-care expenditure dropped 7%.

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Britain: How much is a year of life worth?

Placing a cap on drug costs could save U.S. health care billions. But it's not without controversy. England and Wales have set up a body called the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) which reviews treatments to decide which are the most cost-effective and which the National Health Service (NHS) should pay for. A new drug has to offer value for money — and if it doesn't, whether it is life-saving or not, NICE won't approve it. NICE uses a metric called "quality-adjusted life year," or Qaly, which grades a person's health-related quality of life from 0 to 1. Say a new drug for a previously untreatable condition comes on the market and the drug is proven to improve a patient's quality of life from .5 to .7 on the scale. A patient on the drug can expect to live an average of 15 years following the treatment. Taking the new drug thus earns patients the equivalent of three quality-adjusted life years (15 years multiplied by the .2 gain in quality of life). If the treatments costs $15,000, then the cost per quality-adjusted life year is $5,000. Taking its lead from Britain's Department of Transport — which has a cost-
per-life-saved threshold for new road schemes of about $2.2 million per life, or around $45,000 per life year gained — NICE rarely approves a drug that costs more than $45,000 per Qaly Not only does the equation make hard-nosed sense in a public-health system, its use can reduce costs in other ways. Eager to gain NICE's approval, drug companies have started giving away portions of expensive treatment for free in Britain in order to ensure their drugs meet the threshold.



Aware that the idea of "rationing" health care would prove controversial in the U.S., advocates of reform — from the American College of Physicians to the advocacy group Center for Medicine in the Public Interest — have suggested a system of review that doesn't take into account the cost of new treatments. This would help doctors decide a course of treatment, as currently they have no way of comparing the efficacy of different drugs for the same condition. But it could also raise prices. "In a free-market economy the manufacturers may use the effectiveness review to charge higher prices for the best drug," says Jeffrey Harris, president of the American College of Physicians.

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France: The benchmark system is neither truly socialized nor fully equal

In 2000 the World Health Organization (WHO) used statistical measures, such as life expectancy and infant mortality, to rank the world's health-care systems. France topped the rankings. In 2008, researchers at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine followed up the WHO study by showing that France is not only a good place to stay healthy, but also a good place to be sick: of 19 industrialized nations, France has the lowest number of "amenable deaths" — fatalities that could have been prevented by good health care. (The U.S. had the highest.).. France's state-run health insurance scheme reimburses 60% to 70% of most medical bills. The remaining costs are assumed by the patient. More than 90% of French citizens pay for supplementary health insurance to cover these costs — mostly from state-run providers called mutuals. But those who can afford it are increasingly abandoning mutuals in favor of private insurance. For most ailments, that makes little difference: 80% of France's general practitioners work under a regime that caps how much they can charge. But the reverse is true for specialists and surgeons — 80% of them set their own fees, often exceeding the reimbursement ceiling of most mutuals. The result: a two-tiered system that runs counter to the utopian ideals of most health-care reformers... Rua and others say that what's exemplary about France's system is that it has managed to foster patient choice while continuing to provide a generally high level of care for even the most vulnerable.

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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1899873,00.html


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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:03 PM
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1. Very interesting. Thanks.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:24 PM
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2. If the Democrats were serious about health care reform they would have
have repealed Medicare D in terms of the government not being able to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies to get lower costs.

This shows that the Democrats are not any more willing to reform health care than the Republicans in the meantime health care costs continue to skyrocket.

Oh well...:crazy:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:58 AM
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3. The question is whether reforms should follow a patchwork
or just scrubbing the whole thing ans start from scratch.

I really am not sure which one is better. I think that this is what the Clintons tried and it scared the hell out of too many people... and gave an opening to Newt and his gang.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 06:32 PM
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7. I think you hit it on the head.
Politically, it's very easy to fight by simply scaring people.
You'll have no choice and the govt. will decide everything.
Done.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:28 AM
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4. I have concerns about the Pennsylvania system
In 2007, Geisinger Health System began a pilot program in Pennsylvania, hiring nurses to check on patients with diabetes, heart disease and other chronic ailments, as well as linking 20% of physician income to targets in areas such as patient weight loss, smoking cessation and cholesterol levels. After the first year of the study, hospitals reported a 20% fall in admissions in the area and health-care expenditure dropped 7%.

If a physician is trying to meet a target, for example in patient cholesterol levels, can't she or he simply turn away patients that are too "difficult"?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:15 PM
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10. And stories like that have been reported
A board, or other governing body is determining "metrics" by which patients should be treated, and it takes the decision making from the attending physician.

This is the problem with a "system," any system that tries to cover all possible situations.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:38 AM
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5. The US is living in the dark ages, and it's not just healthcare
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 06:27 PM
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6. This thread is one of the most interesting on health care at DU!
Not only that, but it actually discusses the potential drawbacks of single-payer (and private insurance).

For example, I definitely do not like the idea of denying therapies that could help someone in their last year of life as Great Britain does in their single-payer system. In my mind this is as bad as the evil insurance companies denying benefits to maximize their profits.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:19 PM
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11. And yet, it sunk quickly
This is one of the problem that the one fighting a "government run" anything are raising; That you set a process into which every treatment and every illness has to fit. Yet, medicine is not physics. There are no rules and algorithms that can fit every case.

The best example is: when JFK wanted to get to the moon, we did. We dealt with physics and engineering. When Nixon, 10 years later, wanted to conquer cancer... well, we still battle. Because the human body cannot fit into a nice set of equations.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 01:58 AM
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12. I'm more bothered by the fact that in the US expensive, end-of-life
therapies are often forced upon unwilling (or unwitting) patients at tremendous cost and no improvement in quality of life. It is really difficult to say "enough it is time to let him/her die in peace". I know. I've had that fight twice and, in one case, it took a complaint to the Ethics Director at a local hospital to back off a resident who refused to honor my mother's living will.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 12:02 AM
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8. k&r
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 12:20 AM
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9. I had great hopes for a new system of healthcare in the US,
but when I heard the word "reform", I began losing hope, and from what I am seeing now, I am afraid we have lost the opportunity for real change and will be stuck with a worse situation than we have now.
In the end it will be about big money and who will be getting a larger piece of it.

mark
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:01 AM
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13. good read
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