My problem with all of the candidates

[Mass_Liberal]

While it's one thing to point out the differences between the candidates, it is quite another to forget all about the positive points and the things that they believe in. In DU we fight a lot about Dean's gaffes, Clark's past votes, Kerry's and Edwards' Iraq war vote, and Kucinich's electability. But in my mind it's damn useless. Militant Kerry people are not going to convince Dean people what they believe about Dean people someone who talks before he thinks, somebody to raw to beat bush. Militant Dean people are not going to convince Kerry people what they believe about Kerry having betrayed the Democratic Party with his vote. So all of this yelling at eachother ain't too productive. We aren't convincing anybody of our opinion.



Furthermore, I think that the candidates are attacking eachother so much that they are beginning to seem petulant to me, and I think the public to a certain extent.



Peace. Good vibes between people is what we should aim for. Good auras.

[Jack_Dawson]

1. I have nothing but love for y'all

Because I know in the end we all want Bush out of office.

:loveya:

[Mass_Liberal]

2. booyah kasha

good on yer.

[Mass_Liberal]

3. ummmm.... kick?

:kick: :dem:

[Mass_Liberal]

4. c'mon

can I get some participation here? Please? Don't make me uberkick my own thread. That would be sad.

[slinkerwink]

5. only one problem----Clark never voted on anything

he doesn't have a domestic record that we can hold him accountable to, or know where exactly he'd be loyal to a certain issue....

[JohnKleeb]

6. Clark's past votes for president is what he is refering to

You know the nixon and reagan votes.

[Mass_Liberal]

9. ya

[JohnKleeb]

10. yea I thought so

[Capn Sunshine]

14. remember Clark "votes the man, not the party"

Like Nixon and Reagan.

[JVS]

7. It is easy to have no strikes if you never go to bat

[Renew Deal]

12. You are right

Just look at Deans various positions on the Iraq War and the $87 Bil.

[Mass_Liberal]

15. perhaps you miss my point

I was trying to say that us bitching at each other about our respective candidates past decisions aren't gettin us anywhere. Mellow out, maaaaan.

[Mass_Liberal]

16. another repeated message= me est mui stupido

[Mass_Liberal]

17. repeated message=me est stupido

[HFishbine]

8. DU is a training ground

You are right. In the past several months, I think I've seen three or four people change their minds here. That's not why I hash it out on DU though. The things I learn here, the points of persuasion that work, I take with me into the real world. On local blogs, in LTTE, and in conversations with family and friends, I use my DU knowledge to persuade.

[Mass_Liberal]

11. in terms of reasonable persuasion I agree with you totally

but not blunt bludgeoning techniques iffen ya know what I mean. Saying Clark is bad! Noooooo DEAN is bad! NOOOOO CLARK is BAD!!!! And so forth. A fair bit of traffic in this forum is just bitter enemies sorta yelling at eachother. Its not really rational discussion all the time.

[HFishbine]

13. Oh, yeah?

What do you know?



;)

[Mass_Liberal]

18. hurr hurr

you made a funny. heeheeeeheee. :toast:

[spooky3]

19. I agree with you. But even when it's not informative

it can be a comfort to come here to be with generally like minded folks, if you work or live with Repugs.

[Mass_Liberal]

20. reasonably like-minded about what?

me confus-ed