Anybody here STILL support the Honduran coup?

[Ken Burch]

Anyone here still think that everything that's happened is ok because "Congress and the Supreme Court ordered it"?

[Ken Burch]

1. so far.....

[crikkett]

2. .

[dipsydoodle]

3. I wasn't aware

of anyone here supporting the coup at all. :shrug:

[bluestateguy]

4. I wasn't aware that anyone here did

nt

[POAS]

5. I've seen several posters support the coup.

[Ken Burch]

6. And a suspiciously large number of them used identical phraseology

They were repeating an official line from somewhere.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

9. I didn't see those. Probably drowned in Michael Jackson threads.

What was the gist of them, if you don't mind my asking?

[Ken Burch]

10. The myth that Zelaya had no right to seek a constitutional convention

The claim that it was just about his getting the right to seek a second term. The bizarre insistence that he was both a wealthy rancher AND a "communist". The argument that everything that happened was justifiable just because "Congress and the Supreme Court ordered it"(never mind that, in this country, The Supreme Court once ruled that black people weren't human beings and our Congress once lowered itself to passing the Fugitive Slave Law.)

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

13. Three of those four sound like myths.

The other about Zelaya trying to get another term does sound like a reasonable assumption, frankly. It certainly wouldn't be the first time someone's done that, and even in our own history, guys like FDR tried to do things like pack the Supreme Court or flout the two-term tradition in order to get his way (and for the record, FDR is my favorite president, but that doesn't mean he was always right). Further, if that's not his intent, there are transparent ways to make that happen, such as explicitly putting it into legislative language that it wouldn't apply to him.

[Vidar]

7. They're hiding.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

8. I've been somewhat neutral on the coup, and still am.

On one hand, a military coup is never a good thing. This could've and should've been handled better by the opposition. Instead of maintaining whatever high ground they had, now they're just power-grabbers. And military control is NEVER a good thing.

On the other hand, as I understand it, Zelaya was trying to push through constitutional changes that would have allowed him to be president for life, which while it would be a legislative coup, it'd still be a coup of sorts.

So, in essence, it boils down to which evil you think is better. I'd say I'm neutral, leaning to opposing the coup. That said, I'm certainly not going to claim any kind of expert status on the details and my mind could certainly be shifted in light of better information.

[Ken Burch]

11. Even if the Zelaya had sought to remove the term limits policy

(And there was nothing in the referendum that actually called for that, btw), this does NOT equate with seeking to be "president-for-life". In contemporary Latin American politics, the "president-for-life" claim is code for "How dare a left-of-center president actually have enough power to defend the poor and the workers and prevent we, the rich, from being the true rulers of the continent?"
The "president-for-life" accusation is simply the wealthy and the generals complaining because a people's politician actually dares to stand up to them.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

12. The news reports must have been inaccurate at the start then.

I definitely read that he was trying to eliminate term limits, but it sure wouldn't be the first time the MSM got something factually incorrect. And Zelaya could have made the change to term limits not ever apply to himself personally if that were not his intent.

Honestly, the rest of your comments sound more like personal opinion projection than anything steeped in fact. I'll have to do some more personal digging into this issue, I'm afraid.

[sybylla]

15. Heard the same thing through the grapevine

Friend of a friend confirms this and is outraged by how the American media is spinning this "coup" as a bad thing.

But, like you, I'm no expert and am remaining neutral until further information comes forward. There have certainly been some strange news/rumor tidbits floating around out there contradicting both sides.

[SidneyCarton]

14. Never have.

That said, I don't think we should do anything about it either. We've screwed around with Latin American governments enough, and we never really make it better, leave them alone and let them sort out their problems without their overbearing Uncle Sam trying to make it all better, maybe something will actually change.

[POAS]

16. Yankee stay home should be our motto!

The local governments can deal with it without their overseers from up north pushing another "solution" on them!