Saw This Pic Of The Vice President & His Son

[Dinger]

I thought this was pretty cool.

[Cha]

1. Rec'd~ It's very cool..

THank you, Dinger~

[Cha]

2. Some troll must not like it 'cause

it already has 2 unrecs.

[Dinger]

3. Got It From Bartcop

Oops, forgot to give credit. Better late than never I guess.

[rurallib]

4. With Dems you get family hugs; with repugs the hugs are -- well --

[Muttocracy]

5. couple from visit to Iraq

[tabasco]

6. They seem very proud of each other.

Nice pics.

[TygrBright]

7. Wow, he's a chip off the old block, isn't he? n/t

[frogcycle]

27. yes

both in looks and in personality

I met him briefly back in the primary season - he was quiet, as Joe was the one getting attention, but he was just plain nice - to everyone - you got the distinct impression he thought you were some sort of hero for volunteering to help his dad run for pres

[PopSixSquish]

17. Picture #2 Just Made Me Tear Up

Come on fellas, let's get them all home...

[bdamomma]

19. they all need to come home, enough.

[Clio the Leo]

8. Father/Son hugs are hot! NT

[Raine1967]

11. Oh Clio --- anything about the Biden boys are hot for you!

:rofl:

Seriously -- the love of the Biden family is just wonderful.

[Clio the Leo]

16. Yup! NT

[ThirdWorldJohn]

9. I think it was immoral of bush when he used the war in Iraq for photo ops. Now I think Biden is

doing the same. Biden is actually acting like Beau is not in Iraq assigned as a desk jockey. Too bad for beau. He will not get to do any killing while he is there.

Capt. Beau Biden gets R&R from Iraq to be at Daddy’s inauguration

CNN is reporting that Vice President-elect Joe Biden’s son, Beau, has returned to the United States from his current National Guard assignment in Iraq. How sweet.

Capt. Beau Biden, who serves as a military lawyer with the Delaware National Guard’s 261st Signal Brigade, has been assigned to “temporary duty” in the United States, said Lt. Col. Leonard Gratteri, a Delaware National Guard spokesperson.

It would be interesting to see the temporary duty orders that brought Capt. Biden back to U.S. soil while the rest of his unit remains in Iraq, still in the line of danger.

Sure, it’s Beau Biden’s father who is being sworn in as vice president of the United States is coming Tuesday, January 20, 2009, but the question to ask about that aspect of his temporary duty in the U.S. is: “So what?”

As a veteran, I am looking at this through the eyes of someone who may be in Capt. Biden’s unit or even another soldier stationed in Iraq, Afghanistan, and often, anywhere else in the world.

Other military personnel generally do not get the privilege — or honor — of leaving a tour of duty, especially in a combat zone, to run home for a family event, such as a wedding, a funeral, graduation of a family member from high school or college, or most other reasons. In fact, I’ve known several people who learned after-the-fact that a parent had died, and a few, who did learn of a parent’s death hours after the parent passing, could not get home for the funeral. To me, a funeral is just as serious a matter of family issues as a parent being sworn in as vice president. Sure, you can make the argument that “vice president” is a national role and “more important,” tell that to the son or daughter who is half a world away, was best friends with the parent who died, and who hasn’t seen anyone from home — mother, father, siblings — in six to 13 months.

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http://blog.scoop0901.net/politics/beau-biden-leaves-iraq-to-see-dad-sworn-in-as-vp/comment-page-1/

[Raine1967]

12. This is not neccessary.

Seriously. What a tacky post.

[ThirdWorldJohn]

14. That war is a war crime. Founded on lies. That make every soldier there a war criminal.

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How about guys who shipped out to Iraq while their wives were pregnant, or just before their wives learned they were pregnant. Should they be allowed to return home to be with their wife for the birth of their child? I’d argue they should, as that’s something every father should attend and participate in. Sadly, most of these guys are in combat when their child or children are born, unable to leave, as it would put too great a burden on the rest of the unit’s members to pick up the slack.

Beau Biden’s duty, since he volunteered to serve in the Delaware National Guard, is in Iraq, with his unit. Beau Biden does not belong in Washington, D.C. to see his father inaugurated as vice president of the United States.

Some people are already arguing that Capt. Biden could probably have gotten out of Iraq duty if he asked his father to pull strings for him. Yes, he likely could have gone that route, much like children of other politicians, including many children of politicians who served during Vietnam, including George W. Bush, who has unexcused absences recorded on his DA-201 (military personnel record) file.

In fact, for George W. Bush, the outgoing president, it was called equivalent to being absent without leave, or A.W.O.L. (AWOL), since he was trained by the Texas Air National Guard (TANG) as a fighter pilot. His unit was supposed to rotate from stateside duty during the Vietnam conflict, and lo and behold, dear old Georgie managed to get transferred to another unit, was obligated to serve time in the Air National Guard, but failed to show. Much of the controversy was poo-poo’d because a document that his former unit commander’s secretary/typist said the damaging documents were not the ones she had typed, but she did say the documents were accurate.

For Beau Biden, who is in the U.S. on unspecified temporary duty, it seems that temporary duty is to be near his father on January 20, 2009, the day his father will likely be inaugurated as vice president of the United States.

While in the United States, Gratteri noted, Capt. Biden plans to take several days of leave to attend inaugural events. Isn’t that sweet? He gets political clout to leave his comrades-in-arms to see Daddy Biden inaugurated as vice president, but then, while escaping the realities of war while his buddies are fighting, he will take several days of leave to attend inaugural events. What about his temporary duty? What is he supposed to be doing?

It must be nice to be in the military, be sent to a combat zone, and be able to leave on a whim — at taxpayer expense.

Capt. Beau Biden, Delaware National Guard, who received orders to serve in Iraq, should still be there with his unit. If he wanted to see his father inaugurated, he could have had the same privilege as many other soldiers who became fathers while in combat: someone could have sent him a DVD with the entire inauguration in HD video. No one in uniform should ever get privileges others do not receive. It’s as simple as that.


http://blog.scoop0901.net/politics/beau-biden-leaves-iraq-to-see-dad-sworn-in-as-vp/comment-page-1/

[Jennicut]

20. Blaming the soldiers, huh? Lower then low.

You deserve to be unrecommended. Whether you agree with the war or not (and I never have) calling the soldiers over there war criminals is disgusting and insulting. They did not start the war. Worst post ever on DU.

[ThirdWorldJohn]

26. It is the defense that Ehren Watada used and the military was afraid to let be shown.

I do not blame the soldiers. I blame you. And the rest of the United States for allowing this criminal war to be prosecuted.

[Jennicut]

29. Thanks. I was against the war and you are crazy. Blaming me for starting a war.

Yeah, nice one. :rofl:
And this criminal war was not prosecuted...did you not type that correctly?

[ThirdWorldJohn]

30. "And this criminal war was not prosecuted...did you not type that correctly?" Laffing at yourself?

prosecute
One entry found.
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Main Entry:
pros·e·cute Listen to the pronunciation of prosecute
Pronunciation:
\ˈprä-si-ˌkyüt\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
pros·e·cut·ed; pros·e·cut·ing
Etymology:
Middle English, from Latin prosecutus, past participle of prosequi to pursue — more at pursue
Date:
15th century

transitive verb1: to follow to the end : pursue until finished <prosecute a war>

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prosecute

[Jennicut]

33. Yeah okay...so why am I still to blame for the Iraq war?

[Hutzpa]

13. wow

they are all over the place and being brave with it too......WTF is
going on here.....:puke:

This is fuckin ridiculous....:grr:


:grr:

[ThirdWorldJohn]

15. War sucks. Ehren Watada had the courage to fight the US Army because he did not want to be a

part of an illegal war. He put his life in more jeopardy than Beau Biden. The Military dropped - the MILITARY dropped the charges against Ehren Watada and then wanted to place him in the legal position of double Jeopardy by subjecting him to another trial. The reason that they dropped the charges is because he was using the defense that the war in Iraq was an illegal war and they could not allow that.

Sorry to any if my post angers. I have little respect for politicians anymore. Sorry if that pisses you off.

[Hutzpa]

21. What has any of that has to do with

this thread(?)

[ThirdWorldJohn]

25. Plenty. I am sorry you refuse to see it.

[Hutzpa]

34. Okay! I'll try one more time

for starters, your post was very condescending in multiple ways and its
a shame you cannot see that.

Now....

What has an image of a Father hugging his son has to do with what you
insinuated on your original post where you linked to an article that is few
months old.

Are you pissed because you never got that type of love from your father(?)


WHAT???? :shrug:

[lunatica]

18. I wish there was an unrecommend for individual posts because I unrecommend you

A dick by any other name...

[davidpdx]

35. +1

[grace0418]

22. Holy mother of crap, you have got to be kidding.

Please, tell me you didn't just compare Biden hugging his son to Bush starting an illegal war.

[Jennicut]

24. The poster called all soldiers in Iraq war criminals in a post above. Pretty crazy.

[ThirdWorldJohn]

28. This is the truth here - if you care to look at it

http://revcom.us/a/078/watada-en.html

On Jan. 20-21, 500 people attended a “Citizens' Hearing on the Legality of U.S. Actions in Iraq” in Tacoma, focusing on the Watada case. According to the organizers, “The Citizens' Hearing was convened to present evidence that Lt. Ehren Watada would have presented in his February 5 court martial on the question that the military ruled barred from entry on Jan. 16--the question of the Iraq War's legality. Lt. Watada has repeatedly asserted that because the Iraq War is illegal, it is his duty to refuse orders to deploy.” Well-known academics, activists, former government officials, Gulf War vets, and international law experts testified, including Ann Wright, Daniel Ellsberg, Marjorie Cohn, Denis Halliday, and Prof. Richard Falk. Iraq war vets Darrell Anderson and Chanan Suarez-Diaz testified about what they had personally seen in Iraq, including the killing of innocent civilians, the destruction of grave sites, and mass round-ups. What emerged was a powerful picture of the Iraq war and occupation as a giant war crime.

[Jennicut]

32. I don't get what that has to do with Beau Biden volunteering to be in the Delaware National Guard or

what that has to do with me being to blame for the Iraq War, you are acting Freeperish.
Yes, during the Iraq War there were war crimes and the entire Iraq war stinks but the soldiers never started it and neither did I, your posts make no sense.

[alsame]

23. It's his son! It's not a photo op. nt

[hileeopnyn8d]

31. How many

"desk-jockeys" do you think have been killed in Iraq? I'm willing to go out on a limb and say probably quite a few, and their job in Iraq doesn't make them any less dead, or keep their families from grieving for them.

I can't believe some of the stuff I read here.

[Hutzpa]

10. Why is it everytime I see Beau

I get this deep feeling he would be going places.........B-)