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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:44 PM
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Rep. Paul Broun claims the public option ‘is gonna kill people.’

Rep. Paul Broun claims the public option ‘is gonna kill people.’

In a speech on the House floor this afternoon, Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) railed against health care reform. Specifically, Broun attacked the idea of a public plan, saying “this program of ‘government option’ is being touted as being the panacea, the savior of allowing people to have quality health care at an affordable price is gonna kill people.” Broun pointed to Canada and the United Kingdom in his argument against the public option, claiming that those countries “don’t have the appreciation of life as we do in our society.” Watch it:

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As Media Matters Action points out, Canada and the United Kingdom actually enjoy both a lower infant mortality rate and longer life expectancy than the United States.


Group Of Psychos.



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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:45 PM
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1. "Group Of Psychos"
LOVE that!

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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:46 PM
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2. I have no words.
no words at all.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:47 PM
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3. I saw my first anti-Public option in Indiana last night.
It pretty much threatened the same sort of thing.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:47 PM
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4. So Canadians and Brits don't appreciate life like "we" do?
WTF?????
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:48 PM
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5. How do these idiots get to Congress?
:puke:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:51 PM
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6. The idiots voting for them, of course!
I wonder... are we still 37th in health care? Or have we improved sine Sicko came out?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:55 PM
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10. Because there are lots of redneck peckerwoods in Georgia...
but that shouldn't be news to anyone
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:58 PM
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13. Their districts...
...have abnormally high concentrations of fellow nutjobs. That is speaking as one who lives in the next district, where there are just as many of the batshit-crazy living here as in Paul Broun's.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:52 PM
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7. When the other side elevates their rhetoric to such outlandish statements
That usually means they are getting desperate.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:53 PM
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8. Why did former doctor Broun have to surrender his medical license?
Did he come dangerously to killing people?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:53 PM
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9. Great. Why don't we just scare the shit out of people. nt
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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:55 PM
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11. Where there is less funding, things will not be done....
Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 04:56 PM by busymom
Prostate cancer deaths are higher in the UK because we pay for the more expensive PSA tests here. In the UK they stick with the old finger wave method.
Also, here is an interesting article from the Guardian. http://www.seniorsworldchronicle.com/2009/06/uk-up-to-15000-older-cancer-patients.html
One of our friends from the UK had to come here to find out that she didn't have melanoma. The soonest appt. she could get with her public insurance plan was several months down the line even though the family doc thought she had melanoma. She came here for a visit a few weeks later and we made an appointment for her to get in within 2 days to have it looked at. If it HAD been melanoma and she had waited 4 months for her appt. in the UK it would have been a disaster. This same friend also has a 7 year old daughter with kidney damage due to undiagnosed and untreated reflux. It was finally discovered this year after years of taking her daughter in for urinary tract infections and fevers. The child had to have surgery and then the surgery was rescheduled twice because of staffing and space issues in the hospital.

Oh...and just so you know, I AM a democrat and I do support some sort of universal coverage...just not an all out public option.

Up to 15,000 older cancer patients die prematurely of the disease in the UK each year, researchers said today.

The National Cancer Intelligence Network said these deaths could be prevented if the UK was as good at treating cancer in the over-75s as the best in Europe and America.

Over the past 10 years, the numbers dying of cancer under the age of 75 have dropped significantly, but the UK is still lagging behind on those over 75, according to the Manchester-based North-west Cancer Intelligence Service, which carried out the study, presented at a conference today. It says the gap between the UK and the top services in Europe and the US is widening.

"It's worrying that so many older people die from cancer in the UK compared with other countries," said the lead researcher, Dr Tony Moran. "But it's not clear why this is. Research is urgently needed to understand the reasons for the extra deaths so that steps can be taken to prevent them.

"Cancer is largely a disease of older people, with about half of all cancers diagnosed in those aged 70 or older. Most 75 year-olds could be expected to live for at least another 10 years, and we would expect them to benefit from improvements in treatment."

The likely reasons for the age disparity, said Chris Carrigan, the head of NCIN, included going to the doctor late, delayed diagnosis and treatment.

"It's really important that people are aware of cancer symptoms and feel able to go to the doctor if they notice anything that feels wrong for them," he said.

"We believe many deaths could be avoided each year in the UK if cancers were diagnosed sooner."
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 06:47 PM
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14. In the UK you can buy private insurance that duplicates the NHS
Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 06:50 PM by slipslidingaway
plan at a reasonable rate...although I think that is one of the reasons that some who just use the public plan must wait longer.

If you have private insurance you can just book with a specialist without a referral.

At lease 60 people die in the US die everyday because they have no access to health care and the number is probably higher.

Not saying the UK system is perfect, but their per capita spending is almost one third of what the US spends.













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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:58 PM
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12. Yeah, that explains why we rank way behind those countries in adequacy of health coverage.
And why we are so far down the list of countries in life span.

But the real meaning of "gonna kill people" is revealed in the fact that we spend twice as much per capita on health care as the next country (France): the "people" Broun is worried about are the corporate "persons" that make such killings on health care coverage. He's afraid that we're going to kill the goose that lays their golden eggs, while presenting the rest of us with healthcare goose eggs.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 06:57 PM
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15. So waiting in line and dying is somehow BETTER than no coverage AT ALL, AND DYING!?
Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 06:58 PM by cascadiance
Hey idiot! Enjoy pulling down a salary for the next two of the last years you are in politics! Oh, I forget, the health insurance industry (if you keep them propped up) will still have a nice salary for you later when you get voted out for not doing your F'ing job serving American PEOPLE, not korporate people!

And that's making the assumption that one does wait in line in those places, which just as many people will say they don't either. And I as an insured person have had to wait all night to get treated for a kidney stone too! Hmm... Would I have had to wait an extra day in Canada? Somehow I doubt it!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 07:00 PM
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16. Republican- Georgia- 'nuff said
You'll get nothing honest or rational from someone like that.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 09:23 PM
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17. What an imbecile.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 10:40 AM
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18.  ... as opposed to the present system? WTF? nt
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