Randi Rhodes blasts Al Franken.....

[Hieronymus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjYm75sRV1k

Randi has always been jealous of Al Franken, dating back to when they both were on Air America. She was down on Rachel Maddow too, because she felt threatened. Randi is a fucked up woman from a dysfunctional home. She reminds us about how she was mistreated by her parents at every opportunity.

[Buzz Clik]

1. Kinda funny -- somebody at DU ran a poll asking when Franken would be thrown under the bus

Randi gets the honors of being the first in line.

[Peacetrain]

5. Poor Al was thrown under the bus, before he got sworn in.

[baldguy]

7. Al threw himself under the bus with his "I am not the 60th Democratic Senator" comment.

And this clip is 6 months old - why is it being brought out now? Hm?

[rockymountaindem]

9. What did you expect him to say?

"The Voters" don't like "partisanship". Striking a conciliatory note when you win by, what, 300 votes, is a good idea.

[Cha]

11. You don't even get it..

that it was the absolutely correct attitude and the best thing for him to say?

Senator Al Franken is an intelligent guy.

[LiberalFighter]

72. Yes he is. And he realizes that Minnesota Democrats are only a subset of the Minnesotans.

[rvablue]

14. There was nothing wrong with that statement. He was elected to the Senate seat to serve

the people of Minnesota per: the Constitution of the United States.

He's part of the Democratic party, not a servant to it.

He is, however, a servant of the people of Minnesota.

[BlooInBloo]

15. Totally. I expected him to run up and down the halls with a megaphone and no shirt....

Screaming "I'M NUMBER 60!!! I'M NUMBER 60!!! I'M NUMBER 60!!!! IN YOUR FACE!!! IN YOUR FACE!! IN YOUR FACE!!!"

What a jackass Franken is, for not doing that.

[baldguy]

28. Thats exactly what he should have done.

At least the Senetorial equivalent, anyway.

Its long past time for Democrats to start behaving like Democrats, forget about weak, mealy-mouthed "bi-partisanship" and kick some GOP ass. If he's going to morph into another DLCr or Blue Dog then fuck 'em.

[SoxFan]

38. Hate to break this to you, but...

Franken is friends with DLC president Bruce Reed, and has been for years.

[baldguy]

40. Well, there ya go.

Can anyone tell me why Randi was wrong, then?

[CreekDog]

58. wrong or right is not the point, it's that her dislike of Franken may be a personal dislike

and not any reflection of Al's policies or positions, which are nowhere near DLC.

[CreekDog]

57. guilt by association huh

nice.

now, let's go through your list of friends...know any Republicans? know any centrist Dems? friends with anybody of less than steller character?

:eyes:

[Lord Helmet]

89. Or at least wearing this:

[Honeycombe8]

50. First, that's not exactly what he said. He said that much had been made about his

being the 60th Democratic Senator, but he prefers to think of himself more as the 2nd Senator from Minnesota.

And so he is. That's who elected him. That's who he represents.

Plus, he knows something that you don't, I guess. He knows that it doesn't mean THAT much to be the 60th Dem. Senator, since the Dems don't stick together anyway. (And BTW, aren't two of those Senators really Independents? And one a Republican until a few weeks ago?)

He also was taking the pressure off. He was letting everyone know that he's not just going to throw in his vote as the 60th on a bill, if it's not the way he wants to vote or if it's not good for Minnesota.

[SharonRB]

51. Al said exactly the right thing

And you're right. He's not even really the 60th Dem. We've got Lieberman and sanders who are independents and Specter, who's not a reliable Dem. Then we have two very ill Dems who are rarely there.

Ed went on a rampage the other day about Al's statement and IMHO he was totally off base.

Randi was disparaging him before he was sworn in. I wasn't surprised.

[WolverineDG]

60. Randi disparages anyone who gets more attention than she does

Al, Rachel, Keith, Nancy, Bill Press--all have been her targets at one point or another. I still can't believe she crapped on Bill Press the day after he featured her in his pre-inaugural show. Probably because he told her he didn't ask her to be in the show if all she was going to talk about was her damn boyfriend.

Can't wait for her to implode again.

dg

[Hieronymus]

81. She does talk about her boyfriend a lot, and has always brought

very personal stuff onto her program.

[WolverineDG]

83. That particular show was to celebrate the great Democratic win

not to talk about boyfriends. Everyone else appearing managed to stay on topic. Sorry, Randi lost me as a fan when she trashed Nancy Skinner for covering for her after the ruckus with NovaM.

dg

[SharonRB]

95. Yeah, like her first day back on the air

when all she talked about was how chafed she was from all the sex she and Howard had while she was off the air. TMI - :puke:

[Hansel]

56. As a Minnesotan I beg to differ.

We have been without a 2nd senator since January. We have not had a full voice in the senate because Republican senators from other states were organizing Coleman's fight filling his coffers not because they thought he could win, but to make sure there were not 60 senators.

I did not appreciated the interference of our state's representation when the right wingers did it and I, again, do appreciate it from the left. Al Franken is there to represent Minnesota. Being as Minnesota is one of the most liberal states in the union, and Al was basically running in memory of Paul Wellstone and is very close to Wellstone's family who helped run his campaign, I doubt he is going to be a Blue Dog Dem. He is not the 60th vote for the Dems, he is the 2nd senator from Minnesota. I think he has shown great class and concern for his constituents who have been thrown under the bus for far too long by the Washington establishment.

[dflprincess]

86. Franken may have been a friend of Wellstone's

but his positions are much closer to Klobuchar's than they are to Paul's and Klobuchar is a long way from Wellstone - in fact, she is supposedly flirting with the Blue Dogs. Maybe Franken will surprise us and move left, but I'm not holding my breath.

[SharonRB]

96. You're absolutely right

And for Randi to say he's not a liberal was way out of line.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

70. Franken just needs 2 b taken 2 the progressive wood-shed 4 an old-fashioned butt whoopin'.

[LiberalFighter]

71. The last I knew Franken still isn't the 60th Democratic Senator.

He is part of a caucus that has 60 Senators though I believe.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

93. what did you expect him to say

"Hey America I am the 60th senator!!! In your face Republicans!!!!". Please, at least pretend you know how politics works,he was elected to be the senator from Minnesota, but you are foolish if you don't think that Franken knows the implications of being the 60th Senator. Randi Rhodes has a personal vendetta against Franken that dates back to her Air America days, she is pathetic that she wants to drag her personal feelings into a discussion about a Democratic Senator who hasn't been given a chance yet. Rhodes has always been worthless and has thrown more Democrats under the bus than some Republicans.

[Teaser]

98. the dumb is strong in this one.

.

[undeterred]

2. Randi has a big mouth

She spends too little time preparing a message for her audience, and too much time letting out her insecurities and negativity.

[Champion Jack]

3. Randi needs to chill out and put the booze down for a while

[quiller4]

84. Agree. n/t

[cboy4]

4. She was DTM after I witnessed that dispicable display of hate toward

Hillary Clinton that she put on display during the primaries.

I used to love listening and now, I absolutely do not recognize her.

[snake in the grass]

21. I feel the same way.

While I was still living in Germany, her show was a part of my evening (we were 6 hours ahead) and I streamed it over the intertubes. When she started with the irrational hatred towards Hillary, ending in the infamous statement that she has dirt on the Clintons, but won't say anything because she wants to stay alive, I lost all interest. I don't know if it's her overblown ego or too much alcohol (or a combination of the two), but I will never listen to her again. She's dead in my book. RIP

[CreekDog]

59. to me that wasn't the problem with her rant, it was that it was unfunny

and completely unconvincing.

i understand how people got really up in arms against Hillary in 2008 because the words she and her surrogates used were really inflammatory ("white working people" among others).

that said, Randi was completely unfunny and unconvincing in her visit to SF and her show was basically unlistenable then, and I say that as someone who actively supported Obama at that time.

[Syntheto]

63. Hey, remember when Rhandi...

...got drunk on her ass and had an intimate encounter between her face and the pavement? The funny part was how her partners on Air America were commenting darkly that it was an attack by the right wing.. I thought she was a sloppy drunk ho then, especially when she never admitted what happened and let that sick shit stand. There were and probably are still people here who defended her and that whole 'evil right wing attack'. If you're going to back somebody, try to make it someone who isn't a dysfunctional, alcoholic idiot. By definition, that precludes the so-called 'Rhandi Rhodes', (aka Rhandi Buten). In her heart, she probably thinks that she should be a Senator, because, like, dammit, she was Air America, man, the real voice of American liberalism, and while, like, maybe some redneck (which we all here know means 'white, low-class, uneducated, overweight and definitely not hot guy' since that racist slur is used on DU all the time) didn't actually push her down and break her face, there were enough who sure wanted to, because like, man, she was Air America, and was one of the most important people in the liberal movement. As for her drinking so much, man, did she ever tell you about her parents?

[Hieronymus]

82. I recall the incident of the "attack" .. she never owned up to it. Yes,

I've heard her speak of her parents many times. What a dysfunctional background ... not very different from that of Michael Weiner/Savage.

[Yukari Yakumo]

77. She was only useful when she was wailing away at Palin.

Beyond that, Randi's ego (which is the size of Cleveland) always gets the best of her.

[sasquatch]

6. Jesus, this woman is alienating more people everyday

[BlooInBloo]

8. Wow. I only mildly dislilked her before, because of her abrasiveness...

(yes, I appreciate the irony). Now she's a worthless piece of shit, so far as I'm concerned.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

16. +1 ... same here

[Orsino]

10. I listen rarely, and missed whatever one-side feud went on...

...but if Randi has a blind spot about one US senator, she's still an important part of your balanced media breakfast.

[flyarm]

12. To be fair on your own link at UTUBE , Ed Shultz is ripping Franken as well

and i don't listen to Randi any longer..but be fair here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGdyP-1xbzo&feature=related

[Hieronymus]

22. Ed Schultz was a right winger until 2000 when his new wife converted him.

[flyarm]

34. I am well aware of that , he still ripped Franken. Doesn't change the fact . eom

[mucifer]

31. Those comments from shultz are nothing compared to what Randi's been saying.

ed just wanted Al to be loud and angry as a new senator and voice pride in being number 60. Franken didn't even get 50% of the votes. It's not easy for him to shout from the rooftops stuff like that. I don't agree with shultz. But, his statements at least made sense.

Randi on the other hand says weird and cryptic things on the air about Franken. She says there are horrible things about Franken she was tempted to tell the coleman campaign about. It was bizarre. She never said what these accusations were. It's hard to respect such behavior.

[PSzymeczek]

36. I think it's OK

for Ed to be slightly critical of Al. After all, Ed's legal residence is the Moorhead, MN area. Al's his senator.

[flyarm]

37. what did she say? she said she "won't say "what she knows about Franken..

Ed went for the balls all the way..Randi refrained from saying what she knows.

Look i can't stand either..but what is fair is fair..look the OP hides his/her profile..Randi is out there..hides nothing..but did nit disclose what she knows about Franken..

is there anyone here..anyone who has not critisized any dem ever???????

Start with Lieberman..move on to Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu..ever said anything bad about them?

[dflprincess]

52. Randi often pulls that "I know something you don't know" crap

and it's never anything to she can talk about. No doubt she does this to make her listeners think she's more important and more of an insider than she is.

[POAS]

65. On your first point

I don't care what Franken says about his status as number 2, number sixty or any other number. I care how he votes and I expect he will be at or near the top of any list of "most liberal in the Senate"!

Your second point is all we need to know about Randi.

She says there are horrible things about Franken she was tempted to tell the coleman campaign about.

In the first place it is pure and simple innuendo and in the second place that she would have used information she allegedly has to support a candidate like Coleman (and brag about contemplating it) puts her Democratic and progressive credentials in serious question.

[WolverineDG]

61. Ed's also whipping Baucus' ass over health care reform nt

[ORDagnabbit]

13. sadly I stopped listening to her a long time ago...she likes the sound of her own voice best

[havocmom]

48. Yep.

Tried really really hard to listen. Gave up. She is all Randi and All BITTER all the time. Waste of a good mind to have that much self absorption and envy attached.

[Leo The Cleo]

17. She Didn't Do Anything Wrong

Hey, she waited until after the guy got in. She didn't blast him while running.

[mucifer]

32. yes she did!

[Leo The Cleo]

55. She's allowed

He's an elected official and a human being. This is a large party. It's okay to dislike people or have differing opinions. What matters is that our elected officials serve us. What also matters is that there is pressure inside the part to do right.

[boppers]

18. Circular firing squad.

This always happens when we run out of better targets, and many times when we don't.

[Cha]

19. Oh, we should get on Randi's bandwagon and

rip Senator Al Franken?

[boppers]

23. Hey, Obama trashing, Franken trashing, (name here) trashing is part of the party.

You haven't been reading GD P lately, have you? :evilgrin:

[Cha]

42. I have read GDP

and GD..sorry if I thought you were sticking up for someone who was ripping on Senator Al.

We waited so long for him and he's brilliant!

[boppers]

43. Another amusing quote:

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
-Will Rogers

I'm waiting to see what Franken does, I didn't follow his platform in the race.

[boppers]

26. LOL, I just got the irony of this post. A bit slow today, I guess.

It probably would have been clearer if you somehow insinuated I was actually attacking Franken.

[wroberts189]

20. I like Rhodes , Franken, Maddow , Olberman , Seder... I LIKE THEM ALL.

I am not going to condemn them if they sometimes get it wrong.


WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE.

[Hieronymus]

25. Randi has gone after Maddow, Seder, and claimed Olbermann

stole her material.

[wroberts189]

27. She is not perfect but she mostly makes some damn good listening.

God why do we attack our own so much?

[Hieronymus]

29. You might ask Randi why she attacks her own.

[wroberts189]

33. Truthfully I have not or did not hear the "attacks"

So I cannot fully comment.

But I can tell you one thing... she goes after the jugular when it comes to the bush admin and republicans.

[mzmolly]

47. It's possible she thinks many people steal her material?

Perhaps that's what she's eluding to with Franken? I like Randi, but she's very wrong about Franken IMO. Unless she's going to say what she's accusing him of, she shouldn't open this can of worms.

[WolverineDG]

62. At the time she was accusing KO of stealing "her" material

Rachel Maddow was a frequent guest on the MSNBC shows & was being groomed to host a show.

dg

[mzmolly]

90. The goal of someone like Rhodes should be to effect the public

dialogue and not complain when she is successful at it. ;)

[troubledamerican]

30. Joe Lieberman, Harry Reid, Diane Feinstein, we're all on the same side!

[wroberts189]

35. Joe Lieberman campaigned at the RNC against Obama

Big difference.


Feinstein is a dino just like Joe.


What the hell is your point anyway?

[troubledamerican]

54. Sweet, sweet sarcasm.

I forgot to mention Jane Harman.

We're all on the same side, get it?

I have zero hope for Al Franken. Al Franken spent the first four weeks of November 2004 trying to quash any whisper of election fraud following the Ohio (etc.) atrocities. Al Franken will be Lieberman Lite.

[hlthe2b]

24. Randi is her own worst enemy... But, like trainwrecks, I choose

not to watch (listen). Yes, her vitriol is definitely fueled by jealousy. Sad to watch...

[Captain Lance Bass]

39. Agreed..n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

41. I was a huge Randi fan until Thom Hartman came on at the same time

Now I listen to Thom every day. I turn to Randi once in awhile and she is just spewing hate. Then I tune back to Thom and I actually learn something. :)

[sam sarrha]

46. no contest between them.. i love Hartman

[spiritual_gunfighter]

94. Thom Hartmann makes Randi Rhodes look like the

petty child she is. Rhodes never avoids the chance to throw a Dem under the bus if they are at odds with her personally. I dont know how anyone can listen to her rail against Franken and not know it all comes from her battles with him at AA. Grow up Randi.

[and-justice-for-all]

44. Well she will just have to get the fuck over it...nt

[sam sarrha]

45. everybody has an opinion.. everybody knows Randi.. i didnt like Frankin on AAR.. wait and see

i used to set the alarm and turn off AAR when Frankin came on.. i like some of his comedy.. and especially his shitting on O'Liely

but i'll wait and see.. hell i am still patiently waiting for Obama to be what he said he was.. maybe now with the senate 60 he can be..

[Tarheel_Dem]

49. I'm a Randi fan, but it doesn't blind me to her faults. She can be caustic,

and a bit self promoting, and way too personal sometimes, but she's a solid Dem. I sometimes tune her out, especially when she goes on & on about Howard. NOTE TO RANDI: keep the personal crap to a minimum, or get a therapist. I tune in for potical chat, not you & Howard's sex lives.

Randi never got over the fact that Al was the big name for AAR, as she used to constantly complain that his show was promoted, and hers wasn't.

[debbierlus]

53. Randi has let her ego interfere with her talent and ability

When Randi is good, she is very good. She breaks down stories very well, she has great guests, and she seems genuinely caring.

When Randi is bad, she is horrible. She is demeaning to her callers, narcisttic to the extreme, and she ramble pointlessly about nothing.

It has been sad to witness.

I don't listen to her anymore.

[Syntheto]

64. Too bad that...

...this talentless alcoholic doesn't have as faithful a base as Rush Limbaugh.

[ccharles000]

66. I never liked her after calling Hillary a whore

[Beacool]

97. Me neither.

I couldn't care less what she has to say on any subject. She's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

x(

[GivePeaceAchance]

67. I don't get the rival thing it's really not needed Al supported employee free choice don't think ...

Coleman would of ever of gone there. She does have a point about legal experience but he is by no means a hinderance as a Senator and on the peoples side. Well at least in 2010 none of this rivalry will matter as much anyways, thankfully. But hope Franken works on winning her round seeing they are in the same town now. Take her for lunch or something.

[katkat]

68. Geez

Geez, Franken is acting like, uh, a stateman. You probably don't recognize that since it hasn't been seen in awhile.

You think he wants to alienate the 49.999999% of the people who didn't vote for him by ignoring his constituency?

Obama on the other hand is the one ignoring the people who elected him.

[mucifer]

69. actually it was more like 60 percent didn't vote for him. There was a 3rd party candidate.

[Tarheel_Dem]

79. Funny, I don't feel like I'm being ignored by "PRESIDENT" Obama, and I certainly..

voted for him. Different strokes I guess?:shrug: You might want to get a few more posts under your belt before you blow your cover.

[Bluenorthwest]

73. I used to like her

but that was long ago. I do not like spending time with bitter and mean drinkers, live or on the radio. Self destruction is not entertainment to me. Nor is hearing about her 'well deserved' beach vacations, her mortgage, dental bills, her mother's mortgage, her dog, and on and on. Who cares? And she is mean to callers. Mean to Democrats she personally does not like.
She's bitter at Al because while she was being made by AAR, Al was helping to make AAR. He was a famous man already, author of best sellers, a film director, head writer of a SNL, star of SNL. And so on. Randi was an unknown. So Al made money and she did not make as much. She seemed not to notice Al's standing in the entertainment biz, as compared with her own, at that time or now. She still has not written even one modest seller. She's made no movies, headed no Emmy winning staff. She has not because she lacks the talent, the people skills, and her audience shrinks every time she speaks.
In show biz, the focus of Randi's lusts, the habit of claiming to hold knowledge that is damning that you can not share is seen as McCarthy type tactics. No one will trust those who say such things. No one will trust them. She made herself unacceptable to those who were just about to hire her for the big time she wanted. That 'I know stuff' routine is old, tired, and it is the realm of the worst of the right wing. So she can spend the rest of her life wondering why she's avoided by those she wants to love her. A association with a person who will then maybe say 'I saw stuff at his house, can not say what, but I was there.' is a dangerous thing. A person who will paint another via implications and insinuations is never going to go mainstream in entertainment.

[SoCalDem]

74. Al did not kiss her ass when she came to Air America..n/t

Randi's Mom must have not told her that it's better to have OTHER people toot a horn for you.. She's always tooted her own horn about how great she is.

[Hieronymus]

88. She ranted against Franken while they both worked at Air America.....

Her biggest complaint was that he was getting more star treatment than she was. Randi must be the center of attention, always.

[Botany]

75. Randi has some real problems and she takes them out on her callers from ...

.... time to time. I like her fire and knowledge but loath many of her actions.

[JitterbugPerfume]

76. Jealousy is an ugly beast

[onestepforward]

78. I love Randi, but her ego gets easily bruised.

She had a big problem with Michael Moore too. When he was visiting Air America several years ago, he didn't stop to talk with her and only said "Hi." She was pissed.

[annabanana]

80. She is thin skinned.. But she does her work, and brings good stories..

Who knew who CACI was before she started talking contractors?

[quiller4]

85. I would say "she did her work and brought good stories" . Her

past shines but I can't stand her now.

[dflprincess]

87. She doesn't do her homework

she often gets her facts confused or seems to just be making them up.

[bedazzled]

91. i used to love to listen to her, but since she's back she's different

i don't think she has a clearly defined
target for her criticism anymore and it's
destroyed her focus.

she rambles more and talks about herself
too much so i don't bother to tune in
anymore.

i'm glad she's got a relationship and hope
she is happy now. she got me through some
bad times and i'll always be grateful to
her for it.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

92. I didn't watch it

Rhodes is worthless.

[Phx_Dem]

99. Randi is an ass. God forbid a Senator start his job

without blantant and nasty partisianship! Can't have that now can we?! Al was not trying to suck up to Republicans -- which is beyond absurd to anyone who knows the man -- he was trying to heal some of the rift in his state following an extremely contentious election. But Randi's tiny brain can't wrap her head about logic.

This doesn't mean partianship is bad or Senators should not be patisian. But when a newly elected Senator takes his seat after 8 months of legal wranging in a closerthanthis election, it would be mighty stupid of him to spit in the eye of half of his state constituents. He can, and hopefully, will vote with the liberal base of Democratic Senators, but to give a big old FUCK YOU to half his state would make him as dumb as Randi.

Ed was on a bitchfest about this the other day as well, and sounded equally as stupid (though that is rare for Ed).