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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:18 PM Original message |
Did I imagine it, or were there racist idiots BOOING President Obams at the All-Star Game? |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. I heard some boos, but it could have been because Obama was |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. no the big rival with St Lous is the Cubs not the Sox. I heard mostly cheers. |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Any jacket other than the home team is going to piss off some fans. n/t |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. anything Chicago is booed in St. Louis. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Sportsfans know this. How Harry Carey made the switch I do not know. nt |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
53. he was run out of St.Lou by Busch |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:47 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Interesting history. Thanks! nt |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Rumor had it that Harry Caray was run out of St. Louis because |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
89. I believe that would be more than a rumor. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Good point |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Keep in mind the part of the country we're talking about... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It could be people who are still bitter about Ashcroft losing... |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
59. Obama carried the St. Louis area |
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MyUserNameIsBroken (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
66. The demographics of a ball game crowd |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. Someone said it was probably because he was wearing a Sox jacket due to the rivallry. |
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PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
49. wrong. they hate Cubs fans. White Sox don't do much for them one way or another. |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. I expected some boos. |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. I heard more cheers than boos. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. There were...but there were never ANY boos |
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charlie and algernon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. LOL, are you being sarcastic? |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. That isn't true. Bush was booed and it was quite the topic of |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. When he threw out a ball at a Nationals game. Yes, he was loudly booed. nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. That is just not true. Same when Albright subbed for Bubba after the knee injury.Hillary got boo'ed |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. Politicians get booed at sporting events, it's the law. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Well, I could picture Blunt, Bond and Ashcroft groupies showing up just for that |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. +1 |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
76. I'm pretty sure the game was sold out... |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. There were maybe 20% boos to 80% cheers |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. Why do you just assume that any booing was automatically racially motivated? |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. good question. nt |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Because of who our president is. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Do you really believe that they would be less nasty towards Hillary if she had won? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
55. Cubs fans booed her in '94 when she threw out the ball. Made all the news. nt |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. And she wasn't even President then |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
63. Yep, they would be. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. In Philly, Eagles fans once pelted Santa Claus with snowballs: |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. THAT's a tough crowd!!! |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. That's because he'd be a fan of the Los Angeles Angels and the New Orleans Saints! |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Good point!!! |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Maybe they were booing because they thought you should be able to be |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I wasn't calling for anyone's arrest. Just expressing an opinion about what happened |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
88. ...because it was racism when Bush got booed? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
50. Because the vast majority of Obama critics are racist. |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Sorry... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Individually, sure. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #50 |
77. Yup. You can spot a racist a mile away, cuz they're white. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. They'll also use shady logic to defend racism. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Or, alternately, good logic to point it out. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Jeff Sessions arguments are not good logic. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Nor is the argument in the post to which I was responding. n/t |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. Maybe some people don't approve of Obama's policies. It's a free country. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. Watch it - nuance confuses some people! nt |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. Of course dissent is patriotic. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. IIRC, Dubya got booed all to hell at sporting events... |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I was at a Twins playoff game in 2004 |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
23. That would be the "carping and griping" you heard mentioned earlier..... |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
25. I'm not sure if everyone who doesnt like Obama is a racist. |
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kwolf68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
48. Just a bit |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
26. Depending on the day and the policy announcement |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. omg racist! |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #27 |
62. Funny!! |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
28. The Cardinal fans are always lionized as super-classy and ultra-polite |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. The All Star game attracts fans from all the teams |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. If that's the case, then the boos could have been from Cubs fans. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
32. I bet its more politically motivated then racially motivated |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
34. Why would they necessarily be racists? Politicians nearly always get |
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kwolf68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
40. Bush was absolutely booed |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
41. Yahoo says that Bush got the most cheers! If that is true (I didn't watch), then no wonder he got |
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kwolf68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Obama got scant boos |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
44. Actually, they were booing Ken because nobody wants to go to a sporting |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Shouldn't you be hanging at fuckallpoliticians.com tonight? |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Oh, is my lack of admiration and respect for just about all politicians that |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
45. I can recall bush being booed during his last couple of months at |
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Princess Turandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
51. I doubt it had anything to do with race across the board.. |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 04:17 AM Response to Original message |
52. Wearing The White Sox Jacket Was A Poor Choice IMHO nt |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. He had to wear some sort of jacket to cover the flak jacket |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Good point. Even Albright wore an Orioles jacket throwing out the first ball. Cover the flak vest. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
86. Not a MLB fan, but this would explain it. Do the cards play against the Sox? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. No, they are in different leagues |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
60. Asinine |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
61. Why racists? |
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Khaotic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
65. Cardinal Nation |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
67. Wow, so anyone who boos the President is automatically a "racist"? |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #67 |
82. I agree |
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Khaotic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
69. Here come the 'articles' |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
71. Nationals |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
79. Why do you assume they were booing because they were racist? |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
80. Where do you get that Bush or Reagan were never booed? |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
81. I just chalk it up to low class Cardinals fans n/t |
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Khaotic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
90. Indeed |
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