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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:19 AM
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Two More Officers Join Suit Challenging Obama's Citizenship
Source: USA Today

There are some more twists and turns this morning in the ongoing saga of an Army reservist who has challenged his ordered deployment to Afghanistan by arguing that President Obama is not a legal citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to be president and commander-in-chief.

A retired two-star general and an active reserve Air Force lieutenant general have now joined the case, the Ledger-Enquirer newspaper of Columbus, Ga., which originally broke the story, reports.

The hearing on U.S. Army reservist Major Stefan Frederick Cook's initial request to block his deployment is scheduled to be heard today.

The Army, however, has already revoked Cook's mobilization order. In the government's response to the suit, the government said, "The Commanding General of SOCCENT (U.S. Special Operations Central Command) has determined that he does not want the services of Major Cook, and has revoked his deployment orders,” the newspaper reports.

As it turns out, Cook had volunteered for active duty and thus has/had the right to rescind his request up until the day he ships out, the paper says.

Cook's lawyer, in revising the original filing, now argues that the issue is not moot and adds that retired Maj. Gen. Carol Dean Childers and active U.S. Air Force reservist Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff have joined the suit “because it is a matter of unparalleled public interest and importance and because it is clearly a matter arising from issues of a recurring nature that will escape review unless the Court exercises its discretionary jurisdiction.”

more: http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/07/two-more-officers-join-suit-challenging-obamas-citizenship-.html
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:21 AM
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1. Cute - a full-blown bigot mutiny.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:40 PM
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19. ...
I don't know why that struck me so....but

:rofl::rofl::rofl:




and then a little


:eyes:





WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:22 AM
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2. Kinda big error in the second graph...
it's actually an Air Force Lt. Col., not a Lt. Gen. Big difference.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:35 AM
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6. Another notable error:
Article says, "Cook had volunteered for active duty and thus has/had the right to rescind his request up until the day he ships out." Wrong, Cook had the right to ask the military to rescind his orders. He had no authority to do this himself.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:23 AM
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3. Court martial all the assholes
makes sure our government doesn't have to pay them a dime in pensions (the freeper assholes should like that, since they favor less government spending). This is a clear cut case of insubordination
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:29 AM
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5. Indeed, but wait until more moths are drawn to the flame.
You know there are more.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:24 PM
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16. These treasonous bigots need to be made an example of.
I heartily agree, a hard and very public smackdown is essential. President Barack Obama is Commander-In-Chief, among other things, of the military, and any delusional sore losers that don't respect their CIC have no business signing up. I hope they are put in their place as soon as humanly possible.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:24 AM
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4. Can General Childer's (Ret.) pension be withheld for instigating mutiny? nt
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:48 AM
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10. That's exactly what I'm wondering. He's not a "volunteer" serviceman
so they can and should take legal action against him for traitorous actions.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:52 PM
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22. Check out post # 17 with these comments from Soldiers
who served under childers..

"A couple of interesting comments in the thread:


7.
TSO // Jul 16, 2009 at 3:59 am

I served under you General Childers. In fact, you sent me to Slovinsky Brod Bosnia. I had lunch with you at the AUSA convention just prior to it. We talked about then 1SG Dancy. I also spoke to CSM Amos and a few others. I went to Bosnia. I served under you.

Now how about you show me your friggin Commissioning Certificate. I never saw it. Can I assume all your orders were illegal?

I dislike this President as much as anyone, but this quest of your dishonors the men like Stonewall Jackson and Thomas Dry Howie who came before you. For the first time ever, I am embarrassed to say I served in the 29th. I even did so twice, since I rejoined to go to A-stan.

How about concentrating on your retirement, and less time chronicling your time in our unit before acting like a total asshat.




8.
Brown Neck Gaitor // Jul 16, 2009 at 3:09 pm

First, I did not vote for BHO, but someone sure did and we are stuck with him.

Second, where were you Resident Childers when we were in training for our Bosnia training? I know, you were back in VA hiding under politcal cover (like a good political appointee AG) until you could wet your (at the time) 1-star right index finger and figure out which way the wind was blowing.

Did you visit the troops (from your state) during the historic train up of the first Natioanl Guard combat unit to deploy overseas since Vietnam? No.

Did you show up for our departure ceremony in your Sam Brown belt and BDUs? Why yes you did. Because it was safe and would affect your promotion to Division Commander.

Finally, you stated,”Other than this, my key short-term complaint is that he has not had a heart attack in office.” It has now become apparent you have lost all cognitive abilities. Please do me and the 29th a favor by omitting the 29th from your resume.

“29th, Let’s see that commission!”



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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:40 AM
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7. Cook is trying to become the next Paula Jones... to bad for him that congress isn't GOP
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:44 AM
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8. Can't say I didn't see that coming
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:46 AM
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9. This is getting ridiculous!!
There may be plenty of things to question Obama on, but this persistence that he's not a US citizen is just nonsense.

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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:03 AM
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11. Ridiculous, yes, but self defeating also.
Better that there weren't this breed of mutinous wing nuts in our military to begin with, but there are millions of acitive and inactive people in the service and reserves so we know these three aren't alone. It's best to flush this all out now. The brighter the spotlight put on this the worse birthers look, but more important, the tighter the trap it puts elected Republican in. They desperately do not want to anger their loony right wing base and this can put them on the spot. Who do they side with, the birthers or the vast majority of Americans who think this is all nuts? No doubt many elected Republicans hope this all gets as little public coverage as possible
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:42 AM
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12. The average Republican politician will not side with the Birthers.
I doubt that they have political suicidal tendencies. They know that the far fringe of their party is loony. Actually, the same thing can be said for the extreme left. Extremes are never good.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:52 AM
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13. I agree. But they would rather not be forced to side against them
That is their bind. How many prominent Republicans have gone out of their way to voluntarily denounce them?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:39 PM
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18. I see it as "self defeating" also..
thank you for your view, Tom.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:53 AM
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14. Keep em coming for a couple of years then mass discharge their stupid ass's
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:06 PM
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15. Hmmm... doesn't the right think we are 'at war'?
So doesn't this constitute a mutiny, under their belief system, for which one ought to be shot?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:36 PM
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17. This is on a Birther site "The Betrayal"
Major General Commanding General Carroll D. Childers Joins Military Suit
Posted on February 25th, 2009 by David-Crockett

Defend Our Freedoms Foundation reports:

Major General Commanding General Carroll D. Childers

CONSENT FORM
DATE: 24 Feb 2009

Attn. Orly Taitz, Esq.
26302 La Paz, Ste. 211
Mission Viejo, CA 92691

I agree to be a plaintiff in the legal action to be filed by Orly Taitz, Esq. in a PETITION FOR A DECLARATORY JUDGEMENT THAT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT of the U.S., nor TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF of the U.S. ARMED FORCES, in that I am or was a sworn member of the U.S. military (subject to recall), and therefore when serving as an active member of the military, I would be unable to follow any orders given by a Constitutionally unqualified Commander In Chief, since by doing so I would be subject to charges of aiding and abetting fraud and committing acts of treason.

TYPED NAME or Signature: Carroll D. Childers
FULL NAME: Carroll Dean Childers

POSITION IN THE MILITARY/RANK/DATES SERVED/STATUS: Retired as Major General Commanding General 29TH Infantry Division VA ARNG 1999, 44 years service

OCCUPATION: Consultant Registered Professional Engineer

ACHIEVEMENTS: Retired 38 Yrs DON Civil Service, RDT&E, several patents, 14 months in combat zones as science advisor (Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Operation Desert Storm), Oldest DHG of a Ranger Course (42), retired MG, married 50+ years, still ticking and kicking

I can present a long list of reasons, taken individually, which convinced me NOT to vote for Barack Hussein Obama; his crime associates in the USA, his lack of experience, the mystery of his citizenship, his promise to make coal power industry bankrupt through excessive regulations, his constant adjustment of position on issues, his tax plan, his spread the wealth admission, his obvious socialistic goals, his associations with foreign leaders unfriendly to the USA, the lies he tells about a range of subjects including perhaps who his biological father really is, his most recent revelation of having a “National Security Force” (whatever that is)……………all of these says he is a person of mystery, of no integrity, and in fact paints him with the same narcissist paint of Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, Mao, and Kim Jong Ill.

But then, there is a simple more direct, easier to understand reason that I did not vote for him and that is his lack of respect for the country that is giving him the opportunity to run for the highest office in the land……..even though I personally think he is not constitutionally eligible.

But more than 50% of America voted for this charlatan and he now has the helm of the ship of state. Even so, he is not MY President. I will not refer to him as such. I will call him Resident Obama, and an illegal resident of the white house at that. I resent him for what he is not. He has not given proof that he is a natural born citizen of these United States. He has spent millions of dollars protecting the truth of his birth from public knowledge; therefore, it is obvious he has something to hide. He is an interloper, a usurper, a fake, a scam artist, a Chicago crook, a recipient of bribes and gratuitous income for which he paid no tax, a socialist (perhaps only a communist or Marxist), and a grave danger to the future of the America that I love and have protected since I was 17 years old.

I have told my two senators and my member of the House of Representatives. I have written 9 justices of the Supreme Court as well as President Bush before he left office. NONE have responded, therefore, they are all complicit and should all be severely punished for having failed in their sworn oath to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The instant Obamb was sworn in, he violated the oath he took because he took the office knowing he is ineligible and there stood Judge Roberts who should have immediately had Obama arrested and deported.

Other than this, my key short-term complaint is that he has not had a heart attack in office. But most important, what I really want is the truth; is Obama a natural born citizen of the United States. If not a natural born citizen, America has been defrauded and then we would be stuck with Joe Biden whose only redeeming attribute is that he is probably not a communist.

Carroll D. Childers P.E.
Major General (Retired)



A couple of interesting comments in the thread:

7.
TSO // Jul 16, 2009 at 3:59 am

I served under you General Childers. In fact, you sent me to Slovinsky Brod Bosnia. I had lunch with you at the AUSA convention just prior to it. We talked about then 1SG Dancy. I also spoke to CSM Amos and a few others. I went to Bosnia. I served under you.

Now how about you show me your friggin Commissioning Certificate. I never saw it. Can I assume all your orders were illegal?

I dislike this President as much as anyone, but this quest of your dishonors the men like Stonewall Jackson and Thomas Dry Howie who came before you. For the first time ever, I am embarrassed to say I served in the 29th. I even did so twice, since I rejoined to go to A-stan.

How about concentrating on your retirement, and less time chronicling your time in our unit before acting like a total asshat.



8.
Brown Neck Gaitor // Jul 16, 2009 at 3:09 pm

First, I did not vote for BHO, but someone sure did and we are stuck with him.

Second, where were you Resident Childers when we were in training for our Bosnia training? I know, you were back in VA hiding under politcal cover (like a good political appointee AG) until you could wet your (at the time) 1-star right index finger and figure out which way the wind was blowing.

Did you visit the troops (from your state) during the historic train up of the first Natioanl Guard combat unit to deploy overseas since Vietnam? No.

Did you show up for our departure ceremony in your Sam Brown belt and BDUs? Why yes you did. Because it was safe and would affect your promotion to Division Commander.

Finally, you stated,”Other than this, my key short-term complaint is that he has not had a heart attack in office.” It has now become apparent you have lost all cognitive abilities. Please do me and the 29th a favor by omitting the 29th from your resume.

“29th, Let’s see that commission!”




http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=1144



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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:44 PM
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21. This is friggin priceless, Adelante!
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 12:46 PM by Cha
There's no "mystery", childers..only in your head.

And, the comments were from soldiers who didn't vote for Pres Obama so it makes them even more "interesting".

Edit~ I just saw that "he has not had a heart attack in office".. fucker.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:33 PM
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23. CONSENT FORM Dated February 2009
It all happened in February. :grr:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:03 PM
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28. Oh my
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:42 PM
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20. They need to charge them for all costs associated with bringing a frivolous lawsuit
I thought he was suing to get out of his deployment to Afghanistan. Since he's not going to Afghanistan he has no grounds to pursue any further. I think they (including their "lawyer") need to be charged with contempt of court for wasting the court's time and they need to be billed for all costs associated with their lawsuit.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:10 PM
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24. When they LOSE, they should be charged with treason.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:12 PM
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25. Yawn.
Hey guys--Barack Obama is an American citizen who was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama Sr.

And he's the MOTHERFUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, and your commander-in-chief.

Get used to it.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:25 PM
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26. Hope they enjoy their dismissal--and hope they can be replaced with returning gay soldiers...
How would that be for poetic justice?

Hekate


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Cognitive_Resonance Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:47 PM
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27. High time for the military to make examples out of these bozos. Stick it to 'em.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:33 PM
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29. Why does this even make it to court?
Hasn't Obama already proved citizenship?

Doesn't there have to be even a trace of legitimacy to take up the system's time with this crap?

JFCOAW.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:35 PM
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30. Thank you Adelante for keeping up with this stuff
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:56 PM
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31. This lawyer is desperate to get her license suspended.
She's filing unmeritorious cases, and should know they're unmeritorious.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:33 AM
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32. Whoa!! Maj. Gen. (Ret.) Carroll D. Childers DENIES being part of Cook''s case
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 11:05 AM by Adelante
Friday, Jul. 17, 2009
Support of general added to Obama presidential eligibility suit disputed
By Lily Gordon - lgordon@ledger-enquirer.com

-snip

On Wednesday night, the Ledger-Enquirer received an e-mail from a person identifying himself as Maj. Gen. (Ret.) Carroll D. Childers.

“You have bad information,” the e-mail says. “I have not joined the lawsuit brought by Maj. Cook. Please retract that information and do not print it again.”


-snip

The suit said in part: “Major General Carol (sic) Dean Childers retired but subject to lifetime recall, and Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff – Medical Surgeon in U.S. Airforce (sic) Active Reserves, subject to recall any day, join in this Application for Preliminary Injunction because it is a matter of unparalleled public interest and importance and because it is clearly a matter arising from issues of a recurring nature that will escape review unless the Court exercises its discretionary jurisdiction.”

Reached for comment on her cell phone Thursday afternoon, the plaintiffs’ California-based attorney, Orly Taitz, said she had a signed consent form from Childers.

“Probably it’s some kind of mistake,” Taitz said. “I don’t know what happened.”

Later Thursday afternoon, the person identifying himself as Childers in an e-mail said several months ago he signed a “motion” Taitz filed requesting that a judge unseal specific personnel records, which Taitz thinks will either verify or disprove Obama’s status as a natural born citizen of the United States.

“Not being a lawyer, I was not aware that other subsequent court filings, in such cases as Major Cook, might also tie me to such subsequent cases,” the e-mail said. “I have notified Dr. Taitz that I am no longer a plaintiff in any motion she might process.”


http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/story/779856.html

Childers deserves every embarrassment, but I love seeing Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. embarrassed, even more. :)


Also see post #17 above.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:12 AM
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33. Stuck on Stupid: Obama's Mother was a Citizen, ergo HE is a Citizen
It is just the freaking simple, birthers. Did they ask for George W. Bush's birth certificate?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:14 PM
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34. kick
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