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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:53 AM
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Per Media, 49% supporting Obama vs. 44% opposing on Health Care Reform means .....
Edited on Mon Jul-20-09 09:54 AM by FrenchieCat
The majority of Americans don't support him on Health Care Reform.

But actually, it doesn't mean that.

It means that the majority of Americans DO support
since 49 is more than 44!

Hello, anti-Cronkite Media!
Are we really that stupid in your eyes? :wtf:

But just keep talking media, cause guess y'all have good insurance, hey?

Just go ahead and hoodwink us, sell us down the river, misinform us, lie to us, omit some shit, confuse us.......why doncha!



Who's gonna pay for it? They keep asking.

We already pay for it.....assholes! :mad:

(Twisted headline to go along with the bullshit!)
Poll: Public support for Obama on healthcare dips to 49%

Just 49% said they approved of the way Obama was handling healthcare, down from 53% in June and 57% in April. The share of people voicing disapproval for the president's handling of the issue has risen from 29% in April to 44% in the July survey.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama-health-poll21-2009jul21,0,2452461.story
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NYC Democrat Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:55 AM
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1. yes and this is a poll of how Obama is handling the issue not of the plan itself
which according to the same poll is at 56% support.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:56 AM
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2. Well of course, we'll never hear that one!
Not on the Tele, anyways....

Ain't that special?
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:57 AM
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3. the majority of Americans might support him
but 49% is not a majority.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:07 AM
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4. But it is a bigger number than 44%.
Edited on Mon Jul-20-09 10:07 AM by FrenchieCat
If 6% don't have an opinion, then they don't count!
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:41 AM
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12. That's still not a majority, which is defined as 50% +1 of all people asked.
He has a plurality.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:43 AM
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14. OK......so fuck it.
No health care for us....on a technicality of my OP!

Since 44% responded they were against it, those who support it are in the minority.
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:07 AM
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5. and how many not supporting
the handling are doing so because they voted for at least "everything being on the table" including single payer - and single payer was never on the table at all?

I tell every Dem who calls me for money - not one more dime because I am not supportive of the approach they are taking with health care - they took our biggest bargaining chip off the table before they even sat down. Dumb dumb dumb.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:26 AM
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9. then you won't have shit.
And you'll have to look at yourself in the mirror.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:09 AM
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6. A majority would be more than 50%
Just because more support than oppose doesn't mean a majority support it. You have to count all those fence-sitters.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:10 AM
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7. This is only because of the constant fear mongering...
...of Murdock and other RW media.

One of the principles the Nazis used to acquire power was the idea that their party had to campaign all the time, even when it was not election season. The RW is doing that and it is killing us.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:14 AM
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8. And two years ago, the majority of Americans didn't even realize there was a problem.
This is one of those things I'm not overly concerned if the public supports or not ..... it needs to get done regardless. If we're such a Christian nation as the righties like to pretend, we need to start acting like it and take better care of the poor and dispossessed.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:33 AM
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10. 50% is a majority
Thats a plurality, for sure. I mean, its close enough to round up to a majority. But it, well, just isn't a majority.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:35 AM
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11. Yeah...OK.
Is 44% more than 49%?

Cause I do know that 49% is 1% away from 50%. :eyes:
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:44 AM
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15. No, 44% isn't more than 49% (for the math challenged)
And since 49% is the highest measure, that means a plurality of Americans support it according to this poll. But not a majority. 50% is a majority.

44% + undecided > 50% > 49%.

A majority of Americans do not favor health reform. They are either against it or do not have an opinion. Regardless, they do not favor it, or they would of answered "yes".

Who fucking cares about this poll anyway?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:47 AM
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17. Everyone on the Television and their mothers.
It's being reporte as often as possible. Not the 44% part though.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:50 AM
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18. Big deal. Its in the legislators hands now. Not the ignorant masses
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:42 AM
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13. You knew this would happen
When Obama is the only one selling his Health Care plans. No Democrats out there fighting with him. All you hear from the media is not even all Democrats are on board. And then Republicans are out there attacking it loudly. No surprise that the poll numbers have fell
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:46 AM
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16. Well, at the end, we will just have done it to ourselves....
after all, it is the American people who saw us through two Bush term, and supported going to war in Iraq. Funny is how afterwards, they were seen scratching their asses asking.....How'd that happen...doh!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 11:57 AM
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19. It's not a majority, Frenchie, it's a plurality. But an alternate headline would be:

"56% of the population is not against health care reform."

Since 49% are for, and 7% are neutral/don't know.


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