Right On CUE Gallup RIDES To The REPUBS Rescue!!

[Beetwasher]

Poll: Obama's Ratings Fall, In Net Negative Territory On Economy And Health Care

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/poll-obamas-ratings-fall-in-net-negative-territory-on-economy-and-health-care.php

Just keep in mind, Gallup is notorious for carrying water for the Repubs and releasing horribly slanted, outlier polls at times that are politically expedient for Repubs.

Be prepared for the onslaught today flogging this poll, which I can almost guarantee when you look at the internals, will turn out to have a small, shitty sample that oversamples Republicans.

Here's a post I wrote a while ago w/ more evidence that backs up Gallups notoriety:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Beetwasher/4

[Proud Liberal Dem]

1. Wow!!!

Right on cue with Repuke talking points! Can't possibly be a coincidence, right? :eyes:

Also, what (or to whom) the hell is Gallup COMPARING Obama? The Repukes? How are THEY polling these days with Gallup on ANY of those issues????

[DrToast]

2. Oh, are we hating Gallup today?

I thought we liked them because Obama has a 61% approval rating through them.

It's crazy how the opinions of pollsters change every other day.

[Jennicut]

3. Its a USA Today/Gallup poll, not the daily tracking poll which has him at 61% on the

Gallup website. His approval rating on this USA Today/Gallup poll has him at 55%. Which is correct? Strange because Gallup is involved in both.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

4. Yes, strange indeed

Maybe USA Today is serving Gallup Kool Aid today in order to help drive public opposition to health care reform? :shrug: Weird.

[Jennicut]

5. Yes, obviously. We always have to be careful when reading these polls.

Here is a breakdown of the demographics from the past few weeks. The #'s are trending up, not down or are holding fairly steady (except with Conservatives but we knew that already). Is Gallup contradicting its own poll?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

7. I'm not so much worried about us here at DU

My concern is that there is a healthy segment of the population (I believe they are often referred to as "low information voters" and sometimes, "independents"), unfortunately, whom, upon reading a headline like that, uncritically accept its validity and respond accordingly in the voting booth. The Repukes would not be relevant AT ALL anymore IMHO if more people were better educated about the corporate media and whose interests they REALLY represent (hint: NOT them), as well as Repuke propaganda in general.

[catholic liberal]

8. The USA Today/Gallup and the tracking one are usually different

Must be a different methodology used.

[Beetwasher]

10. Oh? Did I Post A Love Note To Gallup Lately?

Or are you just talking out of your ass?

[harun]

6. Gallup has jumped the shark. No one should use them anymore.

[catholic liberal]

9. The owners of USA Today, Gallup, ABC and Washington Post met in a secret room to plot this fraud

Whereby the President's numbers would be deliberately lowered so as to make him look bad.
This expains why the approval went down 6 pts. in both the ABC/WP poll and the USA Today/Gallup one.

[FrenchieCat]

11. You've got half of that right. However, they don't have to meet.....

As Corporate owned entities, the media like its owners enjoy low corporate taxes, low tax on upper bracket individuals (which is why Bush was so protected till it became impossible) and lax regulations on their conglomerate enterprises. So what they do is to talk up the negatives on Obama and Obama's health-care by buying into the GOP talking points and making them appear mainstream, e.g., "Government ran health Care = Public Option". Then after a few weeks of this, their contracted polling firms (who understand what results they are to look for, since they know who butters their bread) polls the results of the propaganda campaign...which is then framed in as a negative a context as possible, and then the corporate media touts those results breathlessly. In other words, it is a circular strategy whereas bad press garnet low polls, which in turn garnets more bad press.

There doesn't need to be a meeting, cause management of such corporate news divisions already have an understanding as to what is required. Their advertising clients known as big pharma and big insurance are to be protected based on the millions they spend to get into people's wallets each and every day. The contracted polling agency know exactly what to do from there....which regional zip codes to contact at what time of day (when the old folks being scared about Medicare are home) and on which days of the week.

It's actually pretty elementary and is systematic enough not to require a meeting....although there may be a couple of phone calls placed at some point of the pyramid.

They call it "doing business".

We call it collusion.