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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 03:51 PM
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Think Kennedy would still be alive today had, you know, it not been for Dallas?
Outside of their tragic early deaths, the Kennedys had damn good genes. Rose lived until 104 -- her parents well into their twilight. Teddy is pushing 80 (and here's to him passing 80 :toast:) even though he nearly died in a plane crash and fought alcoholism. The Kennedy women, even Rosemary (who died at 86), seem to live long.

So had Kennedy not been gunned down, would he be alive today? He'd be only 92, but imagine if he had lived this long.

Imagine him seeing the first black president.

Imagine him seeing the 40 year anniversary of the moon landing.

Imagine how much could have changed had he not been shot to death in Dallas.

Maybe he wouldn't have survived this long. Maybe his drug issues -- namely because of his back injury -- would have led him to his death.

But then again, maybe not. Maybe he lives a long and happy life. Maybe in some alternative universe, he -- joined by Bobby Kennedy (president during the Moon landing) -- met with Pres. Obama at a White House event honoring the moon landing and Kennedy's dream.

Wouldn't that have been something?
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 03:55 PM
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1. Odds are he wouldn't be alive. Few people live into their 90s,
and JFK had serious medical issues.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 03:57 PM
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2. would we even have had Obama?
JFK goes to '68, LBJ or RFK goes to '76 ...

Possibly no Nixon, certianly no Ford, Carter, Reagan or Bushes. President Mondale, MAYBE Clinton, then where are we?

JFK lives and everything after changes
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 04:02 PM
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4. Hard to say...
I don't know if we even have a President Mondale.

There would have been no Nixon, though.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 05:12 PM
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8. Maybe Nixon but no Carter. or Reagan.. who knows
JFK--->Nixon--->Ford-->RFK--->Bush---->Clinton... who knows. A lot depends on how JFK's 2nd term would have gone.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:57 PM
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15. there's no way Bush becomes president w/o being Reagan's VP
it would also be hard for Ford to get elected unless Nixon still follows through with Agnew as Veep and he still resigns.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:41 PM
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14. I doubt it,. Largely because King would not have been assasinated.
but we are dealing with temporal logic heare.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 04:00 PM
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3. He had some serious medical issues...
...I don't think he'd have made it this long.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 04:03 PM
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5. Addison's disease usually shortens life by a decade or more. n/t
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 04:16 PM
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6. Don't tell Eunice that. nt
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 05:04 PM
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7. Don't know the answer, but I often ponder what the world
would've been like had he lived. I wonder what he would have accomplished, other than taming the mobsters(which helped to get the trigger pulled). I think Dems would've ruled for quite awhile, maybe corporations wouldn't be so interwoven into our everyday lives, constantly to the bitter end. Maybe even Republicans might have evolved into something nicer than their current personalities.

Thanks for posting this. I was thinking about this yesterday.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 05:24 PM
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9. He would NOT have lived much longer because the people who killed him already
had alternate plans. And those fuckers don't give up. They had already missed several opportunities before they succeeded.

Look what happened to Bobby. Do you think that wasn't orchestrated?

This thread is the equivalent of mental masturbation.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:17 PM
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11. Good point . Oswald my ass.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:35 PM
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12. Oh it was Oswald.
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 06:35 PM by Drunken Irishman
There is near indisputable proof Oswald was the shooter. It's interesting, the Discovery Channel or History Channel (can't remember) did a special about it and used forensic evidence to find the trajectory of the bullet and it essentially begins at the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:45 PM
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17. Drunken Irishman, if you're open to some good information that suggests otherwise,
read "Mafia Kingfish, Carlos Marcello and the Assassination of JFK" by John Davis or "Legacy of Secrets, the Long Shadow of the JFK Assassination" by Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 12:16 AM
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19. I'm saying Oswald pulled the trigger.
Maybe he was set up, but Oswald most certainly was the man who killed Kennedy.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:42 PM
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21. It was a triangulated shot. Oswald may very well have been
one of the shooters, but he was no lone gunman. Oswald worked for the CIA so I have no doubt he was in on it.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:15 PM
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10. Probably, though Addison's disease is a concern. But we've made
alot of medical progress since the 60s. The important thing is that even if JFK had not lived a long natural life, he would have lived a natural life, and not been assassinated in his prime.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:39 PM
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13. ONe has to wonders how the fortunes od RFK and Teddy would have changed?
No Ambassador Hotel and no Chappaquiddick.

THough I sort of doubt either would have become president.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:27 PM
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16. "And now it's on to Chicago and let's WIN THERE!"
...... I remember last year when I realized the new irony of RFK's last public words.

I sobbed for 10 minutes.

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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:25 PM
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18. John Kennedy's still alive.
Living with Michael Jackson and Elvis in Argentina. Hitler died 12 years back and they buried him in the backyard.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 12:28 AM
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20. He had loads of health problems, he probably would have died in his 60s.
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