LoZoccolo
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Thu Jul-23-09 11:49 AM
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A person is innocent until proven guilty |
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unless you are Michael Jackson or a police officer.
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Thu Jul-23-09 11:51 AM
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1. by your logic,we can never question the officer's actions |
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Near as I can tell he will not be on trial. He will not face charges. Hell, they may give him a fucking medal.
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Thu Jul-23-09 11:53 AM
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2. Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Spot on. n/t |
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Thu Jul-23-09 11:54 AM
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3. Cheney? Bush? Sometimes courts are merely pro forma. |
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However there is an inherent bias against cops here that's true.
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Thu Jul-23-09 11:56 AM
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4. which one got cuffed, arrested, booked, fingerprinted, etc? |
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the cop or the professor?
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LoZoccolo
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Thu Jul-23-09 12:01 PM
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5. I'm gonna say Gates? n/t |
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Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 12:03 PM by LoZoccolo
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Thu Jul-23-09 12:04 PM
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Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 12:06 PM by Billy Burnett
In the eyes of the court one is supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty - but if you have committed a crime you are actually guilty no matter what the court finds. If you have not committed any crime but are found guilty of committing one in a court you are guilty in the eyes of the court, but are actually innocent.
Actual innocence or guilt isn't dependent on a court.
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Thu Jul-23-09 12:09 PM
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You're driving a bus. At the first stop, 10 people get on. At the second stop, 5 people get off and 3 get on. At the third stop, 7 people get off and 8 get on. At the fourth stop, 2 people get off and 3 get on. What is the name of the bus driver?
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Thu Jul-23-09 12:12 PM
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Thu Jul-23-09 12:26 PM
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9. White people sure do have an in depth understanding of the black experience in america. |
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Thu Jul-23-09 02:37 PM
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I'm not qualified to be talking about abstract principles of justice like so.
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Thu Jul-23-09 02:52 PM
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15. You are not "talking about abstract principles like justice". |
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All you did was snark.
You let me know when Officer we won't tell you his name and his police incident report is a secret and has changed since it was leaked is charged with anything. Meanwhile Officer we won't tell you his name and his police incident report is a secret and has changed since it was leaked has not intersected with any principles of justice, abstract or concrete, in relation to this incident, other than his infliction of a humiliating arrest for being black in one's house on a certain Harvard professor. You let me know when Officer we won't tell you his name and his police incident report is a secret and has changed since it was leaked has his mug shot on the internets, 'kay?
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Thu Jul-23-09 03:41 PM
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16. So fill in the blank for me. |
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A person is innocent until proven guilty unless _____.
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Thu Jul-23-09 01:13 PM
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10. Or a captured US soldier... n/t |
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Thu Jul-23-09 01:23 PM
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11. Or, how could the President started by saying he did not have all the details |
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and then talk about the "stupidity?"
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Thu Jul-23-09 01:25 PM
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is neither guilty nor innocent. It comes before both.
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Thu Jul-23-09 01:47 PM
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13. Is he in some danger of loss of life and liberty from government action? |
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I see no indication of a loss of presumed innocence, rather that his Mayor issued an apology for the 'stupid' action of the city's officer.
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