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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:30 PM Original message |
A perspective on Professor Gates' arrest |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. K & R! n/t |
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musicblind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. The police officer was likely lying about Gates reaction to his behavior |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Exactly, Gates' crime was not being appropriately deferential... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
72. As I posted earlier on this topic, you don't have to be African-American to |
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watrwefitinfor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. K & R |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. We live in a country where 25 to 30 percent |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. the white American perspective (also known in American culture as "the American perspective") |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thank you and rec'd. nt |
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PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. perfect. this is very good perspective. |
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Klukie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. I am not only listening and learning... |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. Look...I'm a white woman, |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Whooosh, the OP went right over your head, imo |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. You are correct. It would've been racist for cops NOT to take the report seriously. |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. I have heard no one, NO ONE claim that the cops should not have responded to the report or gone to |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
33. Let's try this just ONE MORE TIME... |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. LOL You know the "i would have been glad the cops came to |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. exactly.....sad really.... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
56. So lemme see here... the issue is NOT ABOUT: |
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NYDem Observer (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
61. I'm amazed at how many people just don't get it. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. You really don't get it do you? |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. I appreciate what you are saying but in Gates case the officer |
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Kind of Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. I agree, your opinion is colored by whiteness. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
35. Look at me I am a white woman too and I have yelled at a few police in my time... |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. classy |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Absolutely, thank you for noticing.... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. So do you have anything to say about what is in the OP, or is it all about you? |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
43. And I certainly would not |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
74. I've heard the story that it wasn't actually a neighbor who reported |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. IF she exists????? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Thanks. I had heard two stories about this. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
53. I'd say straight up blinded. You refuse to see. |
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Ysabela (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
59. And if you presented your ID and they STILL harassed you in your own home... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
73. So, Professor Grant's crime was being tired and grouchy. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
11. Very powerful OP |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. What if the cops had failed to follow up on the call-in of a possible break-in? |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. How about they *don't* arrest him after he has shown them his ID? |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Why are people delibrately missing the point? |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Then why did he protest that the officer followed him into his kitchen |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. DU and people like you have brought out the worst in me in over the past few weeks |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. You are just the kind of person I was directing the post to and it's very sad that you've |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Wow |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. Warrantless nonconsensual entry, perhaps? |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
57. It's not bullshit. |
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NYDem Observer (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
62. If thats what you got out of the OP's message |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
64. Imagine; a man enters your home without permission |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
76. An officer may not enter your home just because he wants to. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
42. missing the point is easier than having to actually confront the issue |
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DrZeeLit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Exactly. And another point is... would that question have been posed in a Bush presser? |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. In fact, Professor Gates has *thanked* the neighbor who called in |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. You have missed the whole DAMN POINT of this OP |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Whoa! Did you really say this? |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. See my post #48 above. nt |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
40. who said they shouldn't have followed up on the call |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
75. Honeycomb, you are not paying attention. |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. Thank you. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
24. Empowerer this was a great explanation. |
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Boomerang Diddle (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
26. Great post! Thank you! n/t |
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angee_is_mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
29. Damn |
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bertrussell (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
30. A perspective on Professor Gates' arrest |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
31. Empowerer |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. THANK you! |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
32. Great post, Empowerer. You speak for many of us. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
37. Amen. K & R |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
41. kicked and recommended |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
44. K & R!!! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
49. thanks for breaking it down |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
51. K and R |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
52. Let me tell you a few stories from several years ago. |
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Leontius (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. Another story |
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nolabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
58. One of my grandfathers was an Alabama State Patrolman |
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NYDem Observer (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
60. Thank you OP. Clearly some people don't get it |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
63. It is the "pile-on" that is what causes the upset |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. this is the context that many people just don't get |
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justjones (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
65. Thanks, Empowerer. I personally don't have the energy anymore... |
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lady lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
67. And, sadly, you live in a country where the first black president |
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JayMusgrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
68. K+R I can't remember if I commented already |
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Betsy Ross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
69. K&R n/t |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
70. Thanks for your effort....... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 06:52 AM Response to Reply #70 |
82. Thanks for that, Jade Fox |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
71. Thanks for your patient OP. K & R. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
78. I get it, from personal experience, not because I am black in a "white world", |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
80. Amen |
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