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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 06:16 PM
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The Henry Louis Gates Jr Arrest: 'Uppity' in 2009
The Henry Louis Gates Jr Arrest: 'Uppity' in 2009

Author: Emile Schepers
People's Weekly World Newspaper, 07/23/09 23:10


It is possible that Osama bin Laden was hiding in Gates' attic, planning to carry out a sequel to 9-11.

Actually nobody made that accusation which I just invented, but it makes as much sense as the others.

Some say that it was justified for the police to arrest Gates because he initially would not come out of his house when they ordered him to, and because he was “argumentative” with them.

In response I ask the following questions:

Where in any state, federal, county or municipal law book does it say that absent probable cause and/or a judicial order, or a genuine red-hot emergency, a policeman can order a citizen to come out of his house? Police can't just decide that they have the God given right to order people to come out of their houses in spite of there being neither probable cause nor a warrant, and arrest them if they don't, any more than they have the right to enter someone's house without a warrant.

What statute, law or ordinance makes it a felony for a citizen to be gruff or irate when talking to a policeman?

When did being “argumentative” become a Class X felony?

Since when is being grumpy a hanging crime?

Where in the Constitution does it state that everybody has to be 100 percent polite to police officers all the time?

Is there a “politeness to cops” clause I have somehow missed?

On the contrary, though in my mother's house no rude people were raised, and I myself generally keep a civil tongue except when I don't, I would argue that we have the right to be rude to police officers and other authority figures if we want to (whether this is tactically wise or not depends on the specific situation, but it is our right). This is both a free speech and a due process issue.

http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/16516/
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 06:20 PM
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1. This is both a free speech and a due process issue.
I agree.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 06:21 PM
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2. being “argumentative” is a Class U felony
Being Uppity with the Bos Mass.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 06:21 PM
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3. what does the law say?
the incident seemed odd
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 07:15 PM
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6. Being arrested for being in your own home sure got me wondering
I hope there is a lawsuit.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 06:31 PM
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4. Thank you, IG!
Crowley acts like he's knows he did wrong and is whipping up victimhood and whining to all and sundry.

IMV, the onus was on the officer to diffuse the situation especially after Gates had just come back from a trip to China and may have been way tired and a lit-tle cranky.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 06:33 PM
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5. There is no doubt in my mind that Gates was most "uppity" any more than there is any doubt of a
pervasive mindset being present among many of our finest which allows no lip to be be taken from any "uppity" person for that would be an indignity up with which they can not deal with. :D
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