If the GOP had 60 in the Senate they would be kicking the shit out of us!

[KansasVoter]

And we can't even get a health bill passed that a majority of Americans want.

What a joke!

[timtom]

1. It always comes down to how many are bought and paid for

[ananda]

2. That's what our DINOs do best.. eat shit and throw it around.

nt

[Sanity Claws]

3. It's the money

All of the Republicans are in the pocket of big business.
Not all of the democrats are. Big Business just has to buy off a few and suddenly our majority is meaningless.
We have to take money out of politics.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

4. What makes you think that they don't?

Strip away the party identifiers and they have over 70.

[LynneSin]

5. It would require them getting 60. They got to 55 and the country realized this wasn't going to work

nuff said.

[invictus]

6. Democrats could have a majority of 99 to 1 and Harry would still claim he need "bipartisan support."

nt

[msongs]

7. lol the official policy is blow republicans doncha know. hows that working out? nt

[4dsc]

8. They do with a lot less..

Its sad that the democratic party cannot and will not stand up to the bully.. Makes us look like wimps..

[Phx_Dem]

9. That's because they don't have any liberal Republicans and only 2

moderates. We have several conservative Dems, who won't go along with a health care bill unless at least a couple of Republicans vote for it as well. Blue dogs suck and I hope we run ads against who ever is up for relection in 2012. Regardless of how they end up voting, they will have watered down the health care bill.

I can't stand those assholes like Landrieu and Nelson.

But that's why people like Bill Mahr and others who say that Obama should "just push it through" are so ignorant. Obama can play hardball, but in the end they're going to vote however they want. He can't put a gun to their head and force them. Though I wish he could.

[mvd]

10. I have to agree

I don't want a party where 100% agreement is wanted. But you've got to stand up for things sometimes. The Democrats know how Repuke policies have affected the country.

[Enrique]

11. no, the GOP moderates would play the role of the Blue Dogs

Olympia Snowe, et al, and the Freepers would call them RINOs and vow to purge themn and demand their leaders punish them, and call their leaders "spineless" and say, why can't our leaders be more like Pelosi, and ram everything through?

[Puzzler]

12. If the GOP had 50, they'd be kicking the shit out of us.

[cleveramerican]

13. they're kicking us this week with less than that

[Ganja Ninja]

14. It appears the Democratic party is not a liberal party but ...

a coalition party of centrists, right wing conservatives and a very small contingent of liberals. At this point I'm pretty well convinced there are more than a few CIA/GOP plants infesting the party as well.

Oh well lesson learned. Don't expect much from the Democrats and you won't be disappointed.

[Thrill]

15. 10 of the Democrats are closer to Republicans than they are Democrats

[invictus]

16. Which ten?

I count these so far:

1. Bayh
2. Gillibrand
3. Lieberman
4. Baucus
5. Conrad
6. Nelson (NE)
7. Nelson (FL)
8.
9.
10.

[nolabels]

19. #8 Feinstein

A Look At Senator Dianne Feinstein’s Duplicity
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/06/22/senator-feinstein-what-would-harvey-milk-do/

[Thrill]

21. Landrieu, Pryor, and Blanche. You forgot them and they arguably

could be 1,2, and 3

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

23. Reid, Cantwell, Specter, Rockefeller...

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

17. It's easy for the pukes to stay in line and get what they want. They're corporatists.

They have the corporate wind at their back. Dems on the other hand have their own share of corporatist so the fight is uphill.

[PurityOfEssence]

18. We have two impediments they don't have

We have this pathetic, Clintonian need to be loved, whereas they have no problem being hated and getting their way.

We have trouble admitting that we do the will of our corporate overlords, whereas they do it in the plain light of day.

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[question everything]

22. 'cause they are too lazy to think

All they know is to follow whatever their "leaders" tell them to do.

While we have to show the voters back home that, hey, we don't tell others what to do.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

24. There are few things in life that are more certain than THAT!

You can bet your a** that the Repukes would NOT be out there on cable news demanding that their leaders try to be *bipartisan* (we know how Grover Norquist feels about THAT) or declaring that "they don't have the votes" unless they pick off some Democratic votes. Also, they would be relentlessly blasting Democrats endlessly for being *obstructionist* and ridiculing any demands by the Democrats for them to "slow down" on major pieces of legislation.

Although I generally believe that we shouldn't sink to their level and try to set a better example, it can be terribly exasperating to watch the Democrats, especially in the Senate, tie them themselves into gordian knots and bend over backwards, front, and sideways to try to accommodate the Repukes and our DINOS and furiously try to ward away any accusations that they are not being *bipartisan* enough and/or giving the obstructionists more time even when it is patently obvious (they said it!!!!) that they are clearly more interested in "breaking" their political opponents and regaining power than they are in the public welfare.
:eyes: :argh: :grr: :banghead: :rant: :nuke:

Oh, and I forgot, there would be NO talk of "needing" 60 votes to get anything passed in the Senate!

[Jennicut]

25. The Dems have never been in lockstep like the Rethugs....and we don't have Cheney threatening

them all.
Are the BlueDogs all we can get out of those more conservative areas of the country? I think its time to primary these fools.

[Cal33]

26. And furthermore, Harry Reid agreed to help the opposition

when he decided to delay voting on the bill in the Senate. How did Reid get
to be top-man of the Dem. senators, does anyone remember? Was it because nobody
wanted the job at that time?

[jesus_of_suburbia]

27. You're right, and I'm pissed as hell about it! Healthcare has ALWAYS been my #1 issue.

I'll wait and see what gets passed, but it had better be good (and I know it won't be single payer).

Pres Obama said he wanted to spend his political capital on it.


He needs to spend it.