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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:40 AM
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Poll question: Will we get a decent public health care plan during Obama's first term?
A decent public health care plan would be one in which anyone could join and receive the care they signed up for. (I know this is vague, but I hope you understand what I am referring too.)

Poor and middle class families would be able to afford this public health care plan.

People would not be denied care because of some weird typo or preexisting conditions.

Etc.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:41 AM
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1. no
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:48 AM
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2. If we don't get one now, we never will
Because the shitty plan will be labeled "reform", and especially if it's mandatory corporatism, no real reform will ever be considered "necessary" by the Destructive Lobbyist-fellating Cowards who have infected our party.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:48 AM
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3. Define "decent."
To me, that would be single-payer.

I voted no, because it's looking less likely we'll get anything but a bill that puts the insurance corporations first.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:55 AM
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4. The text in my OP is an attempt to answer your question. nt
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 09:22 AM
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5. I think "Yes". Of course it won't be single payer, there's aren't enough good Dems in Congress...
It was never going to be the full-blown single payer system that so many would love.

The president never suggested that it was what he was trying to do and there aren't the votes in Congress to get it done.

I believe we will get substantial reform such that poor and middle class families will be able to afford it and preexisting conditions will not disqualify members of the plan.

President Obama does not sound like he's going to let this go.

If it doesn't happen at all this year it will come back with a vengeance and be passed, certainly before his first term has ended.

Count on it.

:patriot:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:37 AM
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6. I hope you are right. nt
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:38 AM
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7. aw, looks like the sad clown failure posse has been here.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:46 AM
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8. What does your reply mean? nt
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:57 PM
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10. it means that DU is full of Debbie Downers
who think we can't win this and they are all voting in this poll.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:14 PM
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12. What should we call the people who voted "yes",
or the people like me who voted "I have no idea"?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:55 PM
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14. hierophants
Edited on Tue Jul-28-09 01:56 PM by Teaser
either that or "chocolate wig internists".
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:51 AM
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9. We better - or his first term may be his last.
It's Congress' fault, but it'll still make him damaged goods.

My hope is the voters clean House in the midterms - literally, and get rid of the corrupted Congresscritters. then maybe we can pass something real in 2011?
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:58 PM
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11. Probably not
Because corporations call all the shots in Washington.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:32 PM
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13. We'll get something
but it will be far from what most of us hope for.

Hopefully, whatever gets passed can be built upon and expanded in the future. If something passes and the world as we know it does not end then maybe the congress critters will be willing to stick their necks out for more.

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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 08:04 PM
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15. Shameless self kick. nt
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